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	<title>Comments on: Mormon Dilemma 57</title>
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		<title>By: shematwater</title>
		<link>http://lifeafterministry.com/2011/08/29/mormon-dilemma-57/#comment-919</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CAMDEN

No.  He probably meant that Jesus is the God of this Earth, which is very different from the world.  The world is the man-made civilization and governmental structures and boundaries that exist because of it.  The Earth is the full existence of this planet and all life on it.

Satan is the god of the world, for the world believes and follows his doctrine.  Jesus is the God of this Earth, for all nature believes and follows his doctrine.

However, if you were trying to claim the trinity I am not surprised he disagreed.  Now, Jesus is God, in that he holds that title as a member of the Godhead.  He is not, however, God the Father, and is most frequently distinguished from our grand Head by the Title Lord Jesus Christ.  While they are both God, in that both share that Title being members of the Godhead (as does the Holy Ghost) they are still very separate and distinct beings.  As such, to say that the trinity is wrong is correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CAMDEN</p>
<p>No.  He probably meant that Jesus is the God of this Earth, which is very different from the world.  The world is the man-made civilization and governmental structures and boundaries that exist because of it.  The Earth is the full existence of this planet and all life on it.</p>
<p>Satan is the god of the world, for the world believes and follows his doctrine.  Jesus is the God of this Earth, for all nature believes and follows his doctrine.</p>
<p>However, if you were trying to claim the trinity I am not surprised he disagreed.  Now, Jesus is God, in that he holds that title as a member of the Godhead.  He is not, however, God the Father, and is most frequently distinguished from our grand Head by the Title Lord Jesus Christ.  While they are both God, in that both share that Title being members of the Godhead (as does the Holy Ghost) they are still very separate and distinct beings.  As such, to say that the trinity is wrong is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: CamdenC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, and when I tried to tell the Bishop that Jesus was God (as in the Trinity) he said, &quot;He is the God of this world&quot;. 

Which took me aback because I knew that is how Satan is described in the Bible, as &quot;the god of this world&quot;.

You are probably going to tell me, &quot;He meant to say that He (Jesus) is the God &quot;over&quot; this world, not &quot;of&quot; this world...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, and when I tried to tell the Bishop that Jesus was God (as in the Trinity) he said, &#8220;He is the God of this world&#8221;. </p>
<p>Which took me aback because I knew that is how Satan is described in the Bible, as &#8220;the god of this world&#8221;.</p>
<p>You are probably going to tell me, &#8220;He meant to say that He (Jesus) is the God &#8220;over&#8221; this world, not &#8220;of&#8221; this world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shematwater</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have always considered those to be names of Christ, or titles, because that is what he was.
He was wonderful.
He was a counselor.
He is the Mighty God.
He is the Everlasting Father (though not in the same sense as his Father).
He is the Prince of Peace.

And while I see that you can see the trinity, I do not think this was the intent of Isaiah, and I can also see the LDS doctrine of God.

A title is an additional name given to a person to distinguish them from others.  I am now reminded of the play &quot;Man of La Mancha.&quot;  At one point he is being knighted, and he says &quot;If your Lordship recalls, it is the custom to grant the new knight an additional name.&quot;  In response the one performing the ceremony gave him the name &quot;Knight of the Woeful Countenance.&quot;  This is very much a title or description of who he was, but it was given as a name to distinguish him from others.

In the same way all these descriptions that are given by Isaiah are Titles, or additional names describing Christ, given to distinguish him from others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always considered those to be names of Christ, or titles, because that is what he was.<br />
He was wonderful.<br />
He was a counselor.<br />
He is the Mighty God.<br />
He is the Everlasting Father (though not in the same sense as his Father).<br />
He is the Prince of Peace.</p>
<p>And while I see that you can see the trinity, I do not think this was the intent of Isaiah, and I can also see the LDS doctrine of God.</p>
<p>A title is an additional name given to a person to distinguish them from others.  I am now reminded of the play &#8220;Man of La Mancha.&#8221;  At one point he is being knighted, and he says &#8220;If your Lordship recalls, it is the custom to grant the new knight an additional name.&#8221;  In response the one performing the ceremony gave him the name &#8220;Knight of the Woeful Countenance.&#8221;  This is very much a title or description of who he was, but it was given as a name to distinguish him from others.</p>
<p>In the same way all these descriptions that are given by Isaiah are Titles, or additional names describing Christ, given to distinguish him from others.</p>
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		<title>By: CamdenC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 23:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I recited Isaiah 9:6 to the Bishop of my ward (when I called him and told him I wanted my name removed from the church records), He said that Jesus would be &quot;called&quot; those things and just because He is called those names doesn&#039;t mean that is what He is. (Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace) 

Do you see the Trinity in there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I recited Isaiah 9:6 to the Bishop of my ward (when I called him and told him I wanted my name removed from the church records), He said that Jesus would be &#8220;called&#8221; those things and just because He is called those names doesn&#8217;t mean that is what He is. (Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace) </p>
<p>Do you see the Trinity in there?</p>
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