May 9 – John 17:21-3; “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one”.
Posts Tagged ‘Jesus is God’
Tip of the Day, May 9
Posted in May, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 Nephi 9:15-17, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus, Jesus is God, John 17:21-23, Mormons don't believe in Trinity, salvation, Trinity on 05/09/2013 | Leave a Comment »
Mormon Dilemma 579
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged bible, salvation, elohim, Jesus is God, false doctrines of Mormonism, Deuteronomy 6:4, Jesus is Jehovah, Mormon Jesus not God on 05/05/2013 | Leave a Comment »
Jehovah
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg 741; “JEHOVAH. Latter-day Saints believe that Jesus was Jehovah himself, God of Israel, not son of Jehovah.”
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg 452; “It was also frequently used interchangeably with Jehovah, the proper name for Israel’s God: “And Jacob said, O God ['elohim] of my father Abraham…the Lord [Jehovah] which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country”…
Tip of the Day, December 25
Posted in December, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Emmanuel, false doctrines, God in the Flesh, Jesus is God, Jesus' birth, lies of cults, mormonism on 12/25/2012 | Leave a Comment »
December 25 – Matthew1:21; “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Tip of the Day, December 20
Posted in December, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged false doctrine, God an exalted man, Jesus, Jesus is God, Jesus not God in Mormonism, mormonism, omnipresent, omniscient on 12/20/2012 | Leave a Comment »
December 20 – Hebrews 1:3; “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.”
Tip of the Day, December 12
Posted in December, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, Christianity, false doctrine, Jesus is a god, Jesus is God, Logos, mormonism, Trinity on 12/12/2012 | Leave a Comment »
December 12 – 1 John 1:1; “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life.”
Tip of the Day, September 6
Posted in false gospel, False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, false prophet Joseph Smith, September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Christianity, Jesus, Jesus is God, Mosiah 13:34, salvation on 09/06/2012 | 2 Comments »
September 6 – John 1:1, 14; “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
Mormon Dilemma 347
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Adam stands next to Jesus in authority, bible, Christianity, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus is creator, Jesus is God, salvation on 08/16/2012 | 4 Comments »
Jesus is God
Adam Who is He, pg 58; “Christ is God – the Creator – and with his Father is the greatest of all. But Adam stands next to him, and never let that be forgotten.” – Mark E. Petersen
Mormon Dilemma 299
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Book of Mormon, Christianity, Ether 3:14, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus is God, John 8:57-58, Mormon Jesus is the Father and the son, Mormon Jesus was created on 06/29/2012 | Leave a Comment »
Jesus is Created
Ether 3:14; “Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters.”
Trusting God’s Word
Posted in Bible, False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, Testing for Truth, tagged Book of Mormon, Christianity, Doctrine and Covenants, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus is God, reliability of scripture on 05/22/2012 | 6 Comments »
Trusting God’s Word
Doctrines of Salvation 1:32; “Our Savior was a God before he was born into this world, and he brought with him that same status when he came here. He was as much a God when he was born into the world as he was before.”
In this article we’ll be looking at two subject matters; the false prophecies in Mormon scripture about Jesus being God and the reliability of the Bible. While I know that sounds rather random, hang with me and you’ll see what I mean!
Tip of the Day, April 16
Posted in April, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Doctrine and Covenants, end of the world prophecies, false doctrines, false prophecies of Mormonism, Jesus is God, joseph smith on 04/16/2012 | Leave a Comment »
April 16 – Philippians 2:5-7; “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.”
Tip of the Day, March 14
Posted in March, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, Book of Mormon, false doctrines, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Christ the Eternal God, John 8:58 Exodus 3:14, salvation on 03/14/2012 | Leave a Comment »
March 14 – Ex. 3:14, John 8:58; “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM”. “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”.
Tip of the Day, February 25
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, false doctrines, Incarnation, Jesus is created, Jesus is God, mormonism, salvation, Teachings of Joseph Smith on 02/25/2012 | Leave a Comment »
February 25 – “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God; And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even death of the cross.” Phil. 2:5-6, 8.
Tip of the Day, February 4
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged God was the word or God was with the word, Jesus is God, John 1:1 & 14, KJV vs JST, Mormon Jesus is Lucifer's brother, Mormonism vs Christianity on 02/04/2012 | Leave a Comment »
February 4 – John 1:1, 14; “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”.
Tip of the Day, September 20
Posted in September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light, Book of Mormon, false doctrines, false gospel, God incarnate, gospel, Jesus is God, omniscience of Jesus, scriptures, Witnessing tips for Mormons on 09/20/2011 | Leave a Comment »
September 20 – John 7:14-17; “Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned? Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
Tip of the Day, September 2
Posted in September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged exalted man, false doctrines, false teachings, God incarnate, godhood, Gospel through the Ages, Jesus, Jesus chosen as savior, Jesus is God, mormonism, polytheism, salvation on 09/02/2011 | 3 Comments »
September 2 – Philippians 2:5-7; “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.”
Mormon Dilemma 52
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged bible, Everlasting, false doctrines, false prophecies, Jesus is God, joseph smith, Mormon Dilemmas, mormonism, salvation on 08/23/2011 | 1 Comment »
Joseph’s Name Will Never Perish
Gospel Doctrine, pg. 479; “JOSEPH SMITH’S NAME WILL NEVER PERISH – God lives, and Jesus is the Christ, the Savior of the world. Joseph Smith is a prophet of God—living, not dead; for his name will never perish.”
Jesus is the Only Way
Posted in Mormon Jesus, tagged bible, false prophet, Jesus, Jesus Christ, Jesus is God, joseph smith, lds church, mormons, Redeemer, salvation on 04/13/2011 | Leave a Comment »
Jesus is the Only Way
By Melissa Grimes
I recently come upon this quote by Gordon B. Hinckley:
“Just as our Redeemer gave His life as a vicarious sacrifice for all men, and in so doing became our Savior, even so we, in a small measure, when we engage in proxy work in the temple, become as saviors to those on the other side who have no means of advancing unless something is done in their behalf by those on earth” (“Closing Remarks,” Ensign, November 2004, 105).
The idea that we have the power to save someone, in the eternal sense is blasphemy. We don’t have the power to do that, only Jesus does. You don’t need someone to do Masonic temple rituals for you in the LDS temple.
Tip of the Day, March 14
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Book of Mormon, Christianity, Christians, Exodus, false apostle, false doctrine, false prophet, false teacher, Genesis, God, God incarnate, grace, I AM THAT I AM, Jesus Christ, Jesus is God, Jesus spirit brother of Lucifer, John, joseph smith, lds church, mormonism, mormons, polygamy, Redeemer, salvation, Savior, truth on 03/14/2011 | Leave a Comment »
March 14 – Ex. 3:14, John 8:58; “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM”. “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”.
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What an amazing set of scriptures to give to a Mormon! Ask them why they think the Pharisees were so angry with Jesus after reading these two verses to them. Then share their own scriptures with them and ask them what it means.
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Introductory page of the Book of Mormon, 2nd paragraph: “JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE ETERNAL GOD”.
Tip of the Day, February 25
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, Doctrine and Covenants, Emmanuel, false prophecies, false prophet, false teachings, forgiveness for sins, freedom, God incarnate, God with us, God's love for mankind, Jesus, Jesus is a god, Jesus is God, Jesus is God Incarnate, joseph smith, lds church, miracle, mormonism, Only Begotten Son, Redeemer, salvation, Savior, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, truth on 02/25/2011 | Leave a Comment »
February 25 – “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God; And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even death of the cross.” Phil. 2:5-6, 8.
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There are actually two subjects to notice with this verse. Explain the word “robbery” to the Mormon. In the Greek, it means “grasped”. The other subject is the belief that Jesus had to perform, or work, to receive His salvation.
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“If a man gets a fullness of the priesthood of God he has to get it in the same way that Jesus Christ obtained it, and that was by keeping all the commandments and obeying all the ordinances of the house of the Lord.” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 308
Interesting Facts of the 3-in-1, pt. 4
Posted in Interesting Facts of the 3-in-1, tagged Alpha, apostasy, baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, Christianity, Doctrine and Covenants, false gospel, false prophecy, Jesus, Jesus is God, joseph smith, Omega, Pearl of Great Price, salvation, Triple Combination, truth on 01/12/2011 | 1 Comment »
Interesting Facts of the 3 – in – 1 Part 4
Alpha and Omega – Jesus is God
One of the biggest shocks for me when I left the Church was finding out that Jesus is God. I felt very small for a very long time afterwards, wondering how I had never known this big piece of theological information.
Fifteen years later I’ve come to know how easy enough it is for all of us to become “immune” to the true meaning of every day vocabulary. However, when you’re LDS this is compounded by not knowing that dictionaries can also be used for help when reading our Bibles to find out things like Jesus is God.
Recently while doing research for another article I found that the use of Alpha and Omega was used so frequently in the D&C it’d be a good idea to stop and think about the meaning of this phrase. Here is how the Holman Bible Dictionary describes Alpha and Omega;
“ALPHA – ALPHA AND OMEGA are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used in Revelation to describe God or Christ (Rev. 1:8, 17; 21:6; 22:13.) “Alpha and omega” refers to God’s sovereignty and eternal nature. God and Christ are “the beginning and the end, the first and last.” (Rev. 22:13). Thus they control all history and all humans of all generations.”
“OMEGA (oh mee’ guh) Last letter in the Greek alphabet. Together with the first letter, alpha, omega designates God and Christ as the all-encompassing Reality (Rev. 1:8; 21:6; 22:13).”
The idea that God and Christ control everything is simply mind boggling to me! This God that we worship has created everything, yet knows me intimately and loves me too…there are no words to describe the comfort this brings. Our prayer for the Mormon people is for them to know the inexpressible peace this God can bring to them as well. I just can’t imagine Smith proclaiming this joy to the people when we read his works. So the questions are as follows:
Is Jesus God or not?
If He isn’t then why do several verses in D&C say that He is?
Was Joseph mistaken or was he purposefully trying to confuse members of the Church?
If God hates liars why would He allow only part of His word to be truth?
The following list gives 22 examples of how the Mormon Church lies. D&C 130:22 alone contradicts the examples below and does not support that Jesus is God. There were verses in my little study I didn’t include on this list and I’m sure there are still others I’ve accidentally missed.
D&C 10:70; “And now, remember the words of him who is the life and light of the world, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Amen.”
D&C 17:9; “And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it unto you, that I might bring about my righteous purposes unto the children of men. Amen.”
D&C 18:31; “And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it.”
D&C 19:1; “I am Alpha and Omega, Christ the Lord; yea, even I am he, the beginning and the end, the Redeemer of the world.”
D&C 20:28; “Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.”
D&C 27:1; “Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Lord, your God, and your Redeemer, whose word is quick and powerful.”
D&C 29:1; “Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Redeemer, the Great I AM, whose arm of mercy hath atoned for your sins.”
D&C 34:1; “My son Orson, hearken and hear and behold what I, the Lord God, shall say unto you, even Jesus Christ your Redeemer.”
D&C 35:1-2; “Listen to the voice of the Lord your God, even Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, whose course is one eternal round, the same today as yesterday, and forever.2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world…”
D&C 36:1, 8; “Thus saith the Lord God, the Mighty One of Israel: Behold, I say unto you, my servant Edward, that you are blessed, and your sins are forgiven you, and you are called to preach my gospel as with the voice of a trump. 8 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God; wherefore, gird up your loins and I will suddenly come to my temple. Even so. Amen.
D&C 38:1; “Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great I AM, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made.”
D&C 39:1; “Hearken and listen to the voice of him who is from all eternity to all eternity, the Great I AM, even Jesus Christ—”
D&C 51:1, 20; “Hearken unto me, saith the Lord your God, and I will speak unto my servant Edward Partridge… 20 Verily, I say unto you, I am Jesus Christ, who cometh quickly, in an hour you think not. Even so. Amen.”
D&C 53:1-2; “Behold, I say unto you, my servant Sidney Gilbert, that I have heard your prayers; and you have called upon me that it should be made known unto you, of the Lord your God, concerning your calling and election in the church, which I, the Lord, have raised up in these last days. 2 Behold, I, the Lord, who was crucified for the sins of the world…”
D&C 62:1; “Behold, and hearken, O ye elders of my church, saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, your advocate, who knoweth the weakness of man and how to succor them who are tempted.”
D&C 63:59-60; “Behold, I am from above, and my power lieth beneath. I am over all, and in all, and through all, and search all things, and the day cometh that all things shall be subject unto me.60 Behold, I am Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ.”
D&C 66:13; “Verily, thus saith the Lord your God, your Redeemer, even Jesus Christ. Amen.”
D&C 76:1; “Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, and rejoice ye inhabitants thereof, for the Lord is God, and beside him there is no Savior.”
D&C 81:7; “Behold, and lo, these are the words of Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ. Amen.”
D&C 130:22; “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.”
Gal. 6:7; “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
Dead People Repent
The following is interesting.
D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God, 59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.”
How can dead people repent?
How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?
What about Jesus?
Didn’t the vicarious service of baptism for the dead settle their account?
Gnashing of Teeth
Alma 14:21; “And many such things did they say unto them, gnashing their teeth upon them, and spitting upon them, and saying: How shall we look when we are damned?”
Questions:
How exactly does one go about gnashing teeth upon someone?
Does this sound inspired of God?
Strange Acts of God
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit into the adopted children of God has to be one of the best miracles God has ever performed. I sit in awe each time I dwell upon His love for me and for the way He is ever faithful. Nothing about His works has ever been to demean or abuse us. And knowing He is always there to provide for me will always be a comfort to me. I wouldn’t pretend to know what lies ahead for me personally in this life, but I know I will always be humbled and safe. That is why I find it offensive when I discovered this verse in the Doctrine and Covenants.
D&C 95:4; “For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh.”
John 14:16-18; “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
No Polygamy!
Ugh, this is one of my most dreaded subjects that we deal with concerning Mormonism. The demoralization of this vulgar practice knows no bounds. Those who are caught in its snares are affected in one way or another for life; men, women and children alike. The warnings from Moses down to Paul weren’t meant solely for their day, but for ours as well. It makes me think that maybe God knew what He was talking about!
D&C 42:22, 26; “Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else. But if he doeth it again, he shall not be forgiven, but shall be cast out.”
Deut. 17:17; “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.”
8 Months Later…Another Prophecy on Polygamy and Temptation
D&C 66:10-11; “Seek not to be cumbered. Forsake all unrighteousness. Commit not adultery—a temptation with which thou hast been troubled. 11 Keep these sayings, for they are true and faithful; and thou shalt magnify thine office, and push many people to Zion with songs of everlasting joy upon their heads.”
Ex. 20:14; “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
Save Yourselves
Just about everyone I’ve met tells me the same thing; “If the Mormon really believes all this then why are they so nice?”
I do admit on the outside they do seem amiable enough, but being friendly doesn’t get you into heaven any faster than saving yourself can. And this is what breaks my heart for the Mormon people. They are nice, but they also believe they are their own Saviors. Try as I might I cannot convince my mother that being a doormat for the Relief Society doesn’t gain her Brownie points with God. Yet this is the only message the Mormons ever preach.
D&C 38:40-42; “And again, I say unto you, I give unto you a commandment, that every man, both elder, priest, teacher, and also member, go to with his might, with the labor of his hands, to prepare and accomplish the things which I have commanded. 41 And let your preaching be the warning voice, every man to his neighbor, in mildness and in meekness. 42 And go ye out from among the wicked. Save yourselves. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord. Even so. Amen.”
Gal. 2:16-17; “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.”
Odd Reactions
Whenever I see things like this I have to wonder…
Is this really inspired?
The Holman Bible dictionary says this about the inspiration of scripture; “As indicated in the biblical explanation, inspiration is a divine-human encounter whereby God reveals truth. It is a message from God and of God, as well as through persons and for persons.” From this understanding we can therefore ask ourselves if it is an inspired work of God.
Is the “scripture” below a message from God and of God?
Is it for people like you, me or even my mother?
How is this “scripture” beneficial for your spiritual growth?
Alma 14:8-11; “And they brought their wives and children together, and whosoever believed or had been taught to believe in the word of God they caused that they should be cast into the fire; and they also brought forth their records which contained the holy scriptures, and cast them into the fire also, that they might be burned and destroyed by fire. 9 And it came to pass that they took Alma and Amulek, and carried them forth to the place of martyrdom, that they might witness the destruction of those who were consumed by fire. 10 And when Amulek saw the pains of the women and children who were consuming in the fire, he also was pained; and he said unto Alma: How can we witness this awful scene? Therefore let us stretch forth our hands, and exercise the power of God which is in us, and save them from the flames. 11 But Alma said unto him: The Spirit constraineth me that I must not stretch forth mine hand; for behold the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; and he doth suffer that they may do this thing, or that the people may do this thing unto them, according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day.”
Questions:
If these holy men had the opportunity to save righteous people from the fire why didn’t they do it?
How was watching these people burn so that others would go to hell be the proper thing to do?
From a Christian who wrote in asking the following question and providing the verses below:
“Would you say there is a correlation here?”
3 Nephi 17:23-24; “And he spake unto the multitude, and said unto them: Behold your little ones. 24 And as they looked to behold they cast their eyes towards heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven as it were in the midst of fire; and they came down and encircled those little ones about, and they were encircled about with fire; and the angels did minister unto them.”
Lev. 18:21; “And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.”
As always we are praying the LDS will stop for just a moment and contemplate a few of these scenarios. I personally know what it means to be overwhelmed with it all, but when that scenario was taking place for me fifteen years ago, the one thing I knew I had to do was listen to Jesus’ voice more above my family’s heritage.
With Love in Christ;
Michelle Grim
1 Cor. 1:18
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