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BoM Another TestamentActs 2:35-36; “For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.”

Hebrews 1:3; “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high”.

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Galatians 5:22-23; “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

joseph smith 3Today we’re looking at claims the Book of Mormon makes about itself, and if you know anything about Mormonism, you probably have an opinion about it as well! Outside opinions can be helpful, but what does the book itself say about its own content?

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bom.jpgToday we’re looking at a rather complicated, not to mention messy, timing problem in the ‘most correct book on the face of the earth, otherwise known as the Book of Mormon…According to LDS.org, the Nephite nation was killed off by the Lamanites circa 385 AD.
 

Mormon Chapter 6; “The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.”

 

Keep in mind, this also included Moroni’s dad, Mormon.

Apparently Moroni finished writing his dad’s excerpt for the Book of Mormon c. 401 AD. By this time his dad had already been dead for 15 years.

Mormon 8:3; “And my father also was killed by them, and I even remain alone to write the sad tale of the destruction of my people…” – 401-421 AD

Fast forward a chapter or so to Moroni 8:1 (c. 401-421 AD), and we find Moroni stating he received a letter from his dad, Mormon, shortly after he (Moroni) went into ministry.

Remember, this was fifteen years after his father supposedly died.

“An epistle of my father Mormon, written to me, Moroni; and it was written unto me soon after my calling to the ministry. And on this wise did he write unto me, saying…”

How did this happen?

Complicating matters further, we see another timing problem for Moroni and his dad. The following is still more of that letter where his dad is telling him (Moroni) the Nephites’ pride is what eventually killed them off.

Moroni 8:27; “Behold, my son, I will write unto you again if I go not out soon against the Lamanites. Behold, the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proven their destruction except they should repent.” About A.D. 401–421.

Again, how did this happen?

How could he talk if he was dead?

How would he know these things if he was already dead?

Why would he talk about the pride of the Nephite nation if they were already dead?

And last, but not least, notice three key phrases Mormon focused on in vss. 28-29 –

Moroni 8:28-29; “Pray for them, my son, that repentance may comeunto them. But behold, I fear lest the Spirit hath ceased striving with them; and in this part of the land they are also seeking to put down all power and authority which cometh from God; and they are denying the Holy Ghost. 29 And after rejecting so great a knowledge, my son, they must perish soon, unto the fulfilling of the prophecies which were spoken by the prophets, as well as the words of our Savior himself.” – c. 421 AD

The Nephites had been dead for 36 years so why would they need prayer for them to repent (v. 28)?

If they’d already been dead, why did Mormon state they must perish soon in v. 29?

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March 19 – Numbers 14:25; “(Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites dwelt in the valley).  To morrow turn you, and get you into the wilderness by the way of the Red Sea”.

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Mormon Decisions 10Today we’re asking the question –

Is it plausible that the BoM people practiced Christianity while living in both Central and South America for over 1,100 years and left no evidence of their existence on either continent?

 

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Holley1Leaving Mormonism and all it entails is a process filled with surprises, shock, disappointments and relief to name a few. Just when you think you’ve heard it all and nothing else can surprise you, a new discovery in Mormon teachings or history rears its ugly head.

The article here is case in point. I’ll never forget the first time I saw maps from the era of Joseph Smith’s day.  I sat in shock as I read names of valleys and townships that were eerily similar to names I knew were in the Book of Mormon.

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Grafting in Whom?

Mormon Decisions 101 Nephi 10:14; “And after the house of Israel should be scattered they should be gathered together again; or, in fine, after the Gentiles had received the fulness of the Gospel, the natural branches of the olive-tree, or the remnants of the house of Israel, should be grafted in, or come to the knowledge of the true Messiah, their Lord and their Redeemer.”

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