Posts Tagged ‘Works for salvation’
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged 2 Cor. 3:5, Christianity, false doctrines of Mormonism, Isaiah 2:7, necromancy, self reliance, temple works for the dead, Works for salvation on 05/29/2012 | 1 Comment »
Self Reliance and Temples
“Coming to Ourselves: The Sacrament, the Temple, and Sacrifice in Service“, General Conference, Apr. 2012; “We become converted and spiritually self-reliant as we prayerfully live our covenants—through worthily partaking of the sacrament, being worthy of a temple recommend, and sacrificing to serve others.” —Elder Robert D. Hales
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged false doctrines, false prophecies, families are forever, God's Plan of Salvation, godhood, marriage for eternity, mormonism, Works for salvation on 03/06/2012 | Leave a Comment »
Heavenly Father’s Plan of Salvation for you
“Heavenly Father’s Plan – “Have you ever wondered why marriage is so important and why the family is central to Heavenly Father’s plan?” Elder Bednar asked. “A man and a woman are designed and intended to work together to progress eternally. That is part of the plan.””
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Christianity, false doctrines, Jesus, Jesus' blood doesn't save you, Journal of Discourses 7:298-299 & Hebrews 2:10, mormonism, Works for salvation on 03/03/2012 | Leave a Comment »
Jesus’ Blood Doesn’t Save You
Journal of Discourses 7:298-299; “Jesus was anointed and preferred before others, from the simple fact that he loved righteousness better than others, and hated iniquity more. And hence it is written—”For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.” (Hebrews 2:10.)…pg. 299… He not only recommended to the world obedience, but was himself a living pattern and example of that obedience which he taught, and through that obedience merited that which was conferred upon him. Hence we read that he was exalted above his brethren, simply because he loved righteousness and hated iniquity; and it is that same principle that saves you and me. We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action.” – Elder Amasa Lyman, Salt Lake City, December 25, 1859
Ensign, March 2009; “To become self-reliant, a person must work. Work is physical, mental, or spiritual effort. It is a basic source of happiness, self-worth, and prosperity. Through work, people accomplish many good things in their lives. …
“As people become self-reliant, they are better prepared to endure adversities” and are “better able to care for others in need.” – By Elder M. Russell Ballard, Becoming Self-Reliant—Spiritually and Physically
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, crucifixion, grace, Jesus, Jesus' atonement, mormonism, Redeemer, truth, Works for salvation, works vs. grace on 04/18/2011 | Leave a Comment »
Posted in Suicide in Utah, Suicide in Utah 2008, tagged bible rejection, Book of Mormon, freedom, fulness of the gospel, Jesus, joseph smith, LDS Church Utah vital stats, mormonism, Salt Lake City, salvation, suicide in Utah, suicide leading cause of death in Utah, utah, Works for salvation on 03/21/2011 | 1 Comment »
2008 Vital Report
Before I sent this off to be published I wanted to add a few words, especially for the members of the LDS Church.
You know, as we live this life on earth we learn and grow while encountering things we never thought of before. Years ago I went about making sure that I brought children into this world because I was convinced it’d get me into heaven. Now of course I’ve learned this doctrine isn’t true, but more importantly there was one other thing I didn’t think about when having all these kids. That one thing was growing attached to and feeling compassion for the kids my own children would one day surround themselves with in life.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light Moroni, another gospel, bible, Book of Mormon, freedom, grace, Jesus, joseph smith, Lamanites, lds church, Lehi, Mormon god, Nephi, Nephites, raw meat, Savior, truth, Works for salvation on 03/20/2011 | Leave a Comment »
March 20 – Ex. 12:9 says; “Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it”.
God was rather clear when He told the Israelites not to eat raw meat, but in the Book of Mormon this isn’t a problem with their god. Ask them why this would be so.
1 Nephi 17:2; “And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men; and they began to bear their journeyings without murmurings”.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged assurance of salvation, believers temple of God, bible, body of Christ, Book of Mormon, Bruce McConkie, Comforter, Doctrine and Covenants, false apostles, false gospel, false prophet, false teachers, freedom, God, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Holy Spirit down payment, indwelling, Isaiah, Jesus, lds church, Mormon doctrine, mormonism, salvation, Savior, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, trustworthy, truth, Works for salvation on 03/12/2011 | Leave a Comment »
March 12 – John 16:17; “Even the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you”.
Please show the Mormon the truth about the Holy Spirit. He actually dwells inside of the believer!
“Now what is this other Comforter? It is no more nor less than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself…that when any man obtains this last Comforter, he will have the personage of Jesus Christ to attend him, or appear unto him from time to time…” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 151.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged assurance of salvation, faithful, false doctrine, false prophet, forgiven, forgiveness, forgiveness of sin, grace, Jesus, joseph smith, King David, lds church, Miracle of Forgiveness, no assurance in Mormonism, peace, ransom for sins, salvation, Savior, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Works for salvation on 02/20/2011 | Leave a Comment »
February 20 – Col. 2:13; “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses”.
In Mormonism, God does not forgive three sins. They are blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, apostasy and murder. With this in mind, isn’t it odd that God would choose Paul of all people to preach the gospel when he participated in Stephen’s martyrdom and then there’s David…
“A murderer, for instance, one that sheds innocent blood, cannot have forgiveness. David sought repentance at the hand of God carefully with tears, for the murder of Uriah; but he could only get it through hell…Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah and the fullness of the Priesthood…the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days…” Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg 339.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged ancestor worship, bible, by grace ye are saved, false god, false idol, freedom, God's love for mankind, godhood, gods, grace, joseph smith, lds church, mormonism, salvation, Savior, truth, Works for salvation on 02/14/2011 | Leave a Comment »
February 14 – 1 John 4:19; ‘We love him, because he first loved us’.
God so loved us dear one that He sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16) to die for you and me personally. Think today of His great love for you. Agapao in the Greek means love, or ‘beloved’. It’s derivative comes from a deliberate sense of the will, His will, because of His fondness for you. It’s unfathomable to the Mormon that anyone could love them this much, let alone God, so make sure you send them a love letter from God. Share this scripture!
‘Love is always associated with and manifest through service.’ Mormon Doctrine, pg 459.
Posted in Great Debates, tagged blood of Jesus, crucifixion, false gospel, false prophet, families are forever, freedom, grace, Jesus, joseph smith, KGNW, lds church, mormonism, salvation, sealings in the temple, Seattle Radio Debate, Stake President, temple endowments, The Cross, truth, Works for salvation, works for the dead on 01/28/2011 | 2 Comments »
THE GREAT DEBATES
Late October 1988, Las Vegas, Nevada. It was there, that a small group of people stood over a hole in the ground, watching as the tiny white casket which held its precious cargo was lowered into its final resting place. The casket held a child of God that was serving a mission for the Lord and from the results of her funeral; many would come to know the saving power of Christ Jesus, His crucifixion and resurrection.
Of course the baby’s parents felt as bad as they looked on that cold autumn morning and the baby’s grandparents, a couple of uncles and a cousin stood by to support her grief-stricken mom and dad. Nothing anyone could say would make it better as far as her mom was concerned and as the sound of the bishop’s voice droned on, the thoughts of the childless new mother was not at her daughter’s graveside.
Within the first five minutes of the eulogy that cold morning Mallory’s mom frantically searched her memory bank of the Jesus she had heard about in her travels over the past six years. What very little she did know wasn’t even close to what that bishop was proclaiming.
At the end of the graveside service the wind picked up as everyone walked back to their vehicles and the heartbroken mom turned to catch one more glimpse of her baby’s casket. The mom and dad drove home in stunned silence for most of the twenty minute drive back to the apartment. Little things were spoken between the two; “she sure had a lot of black curly hair” and “her nose looked just like…” What was there to be said? There was no baby, no help, no hope, no God to reach to and find comfort. The only thing she left that graveyard with was the bishop’s voice telling her that she would never see her baby again because they hadn’t been married in the temple. God would give Mallory to another family who was worthy of her. That’s when the visual made its appearance and the bishop’s voice began to serve as noise in the background.
When he said the words “she’ll be given to another couple who is worthy of her because they have been married in the temple…” her mind instantly pictured a massive white building with little to no windows; the temple. On the other side of the picture there stood a cross with blood that had been dripping from its owner that made the dust that caught the blood Holy ground.
Back at the apartment the young woman walked in her little home to be greeted by her own mother. As they changed clothes and began making lunch the debate that had been at the tips of everyone’s tongues broke loose.
The younger mom said to the older mom; “…didn’t you hear what that guy said? He told me that I was going to hell!” The older mom shook her head and made a clicking noise with her tongue as she told her daughter that she had misunderstood the bishop. The young, defiant woman knew differently; yet sadly enough neither she nor her husband even discussed the funeral until four years later. However, for now the bishop’s quote of the Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith rang in her ears; “If parents are righteous, they will have their children after the resurrection. Little children who die, whose parents are not worthy of an exaltation, will be adopted into the families of those who are worthy.”
How was that to be misunderstood? It seemed rather dry and pretty straightforward to her. She wanted God, but didn’t know how to go about “getting” Him as she was too intimidated to visit another church. She also didn’t know that the Holy, Merciful God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would bless the couple with two more daughters within the next four years and the greatest gift of all; their salvation!
I never could have imagined that eighteen years later I would be praising a righteous Sovereign God for the gift of Mallory Elizabeth Grim and be involved in yet another debate. This time it would be in a Seattle Christian radio station with my husband and of course who else, but a couple of Mormons?!
The debate in that apartment has now lasted 18 years. I’ve never counted how many times I’ve “debated” with my mother about that day so long ago. She is just as convinced today that I misunderstood and I’m even more convinced I heard them correctly. The divide is wide indeed, but Jesus warned us of these days. He said there would be mothers against daughters and sons against fathers on account of His name.
It is almost surreal for me as I look back on that day in Vegas and think of what God has done for my family and for me too. I never would have imagined that this is what I would be doing; yet now I cannot imagine not doing this work! The debate at KGNW last week with Thor Tolo has blessed us beyond measure. We can’t thank everyone enough for their prayers that went up for the event! I’ve had people pray for me before when I speak or do a radio show, but in all honesty I have never experienced what I did this last week and the week prior to the taping of the show! It was very obvious to those in the studio and to Kirk and me that God was present among us!
I noticed the “misunderstandings” and topics between the debate last week and the debate 18 years ago were very similar. They both contained the following subjects: absence of the cross, no assurance of salvation and good works. The most striking similarity was the emptiness in my heart while I wondered why; both then and now. Why is it they won’t even stop to give it (the truth) the slightest of consideration? What bad thing could it bring upon you to just consider the possibility that there may be some truth in what we (non-Mormons; Christians) proclaim?
Mallory wasn’t the only “thing” I buried that day in 1988. Before I got up from my chair at that gravesite I recall looking down into the grave and picturing myself placing my heritage down there as well. I knew on that day my ignorant, misinformed perception of “my people” was over and done with.
One of the first things Thor asked me at the debate was to explain why I believe the Mormons are not Christians. I told him the main reason is because of the cross. In Mormonism there is no cross in the sense of it being the altar of God. Once again, it’s about the cross, or rather the lack thereof. The sign of the empty cross doesn’t just imply, but shouts out the good news of our salvation and resurrection! On the flip side you see the Mormon parents at their child’s funeral. All that is offered is the hope of going to the temple a year later to work for salvation of the child and the parent; no mention of a cross in that scenario.
When Thor asked Stake President Burnham if he had assurance of his salvation, he replied; “Well now you’re testing my humility”. Oh please. I knew he wouldn’t be able to proclaim any good news of rest for his own soul, assurance that the Shepherd is always with him to lead, console and keep watch over His flock. There is no hope when you are working all the time for your own life. How are you rejuvenated, fed, rested and refreshed? You can’t be if you are the one that is always in control. It took me years to disencumber myself of the filthy robe of self-sufficiency. I felt much like what the apostle Paul described in Romans chapter seven; “why do I do the things I don’t want to do but don’t do the things I want to do”? The only way my life got into order is when I got off the merry-go-round of doing good works for my salvation. Even to this day, how could I be sure if it (salvation) was based on my own worthiness? This week and last week I’ve worked pretty hard. Next week I might get distracted or maybe take it easy. How do I justify myself in God’s eyes with this type of spiritual battle going on inside my soul?
As mentioned earlier, we have been so blessed by seeing God at work in people’s lives. It’s been nothing short of an honor to watch His grace flow to those around us! We’re sending out this praise and prayer report so you can be blessed as well! Continue to pray won’t you that those who are struggling with their decision to either join or leave the Church would be made through the will of the true God of the Bible? And pray for us as we help the people in their decisions so that we would only be focused on Him and our reasons for doing this!
Mr. Burnham e-mailed Kirk and me a couple of days after the debate to let us know that he had researched our claim about the false prophecy of Oliver Granger. We’ll be posting that on the site this week. He wanted us to be sure to let everyone know that indeed the prophecy did come true. He (Burnham) found some letters that were written by Granger’s descendants describing their grandfather and what he had done for the Church. As we stated on the show, it didn’t come to pass. This brings us to a little project. We’re asking everyone to let us know; have you ever heard of Oliver Granger? We’ll be posting our findings on the site at the end of the month!
You can download and listen to the debate by clicking on the links below. Each file is approximately 9 MB. These take you to the website of KGNW and the Live From Seattle Show.
Praise! We cannot give too many details for privacy reasons, however, someone here in the Puget Sound Community, ex-Mormon, accepted the true Lord Jesus into “their” heart as Lord and Savior because of the debate! All we can say is “Praise God!”
We’ve been in touch several times with a very nice lady who listened to KGNW the Monday after the show (Thor actually had me do the program w/ him impromptu). I was able to pray for a woman whose daughter is thinking of joining the Church. Daughter’s name is Lauren, 18, freshman at University of Washington. Lauren needs to be introduced to good Christian kids on campus.
I (Michelle) received several e-mails from members of the Church who believe that I am totally wrong about my claims in regards to the lack of the cross and want for me to issue a public apology for my statements on KGNW. My answer…no.
Praise! An ex-Mormon Christian listening to the debate wrote in to volunteer to help us at the ministry!
Praise! We have a volunteer for translating our tracts from English into Spanish! Because the Lord provided so quickly and abundantly on this I’m going to be confident in asking my next request! If you speak a language other than English or Spanish and would like to see tracts printed in that language and would be willing to translate them for us, let us know!
Praise! We received many requests for mentoring packets. The new outlines are going to print this week, if you’re interested in an expanded, updated version (80 pgs.), don’t forget to send an e-mail to email@example.com to let me know! We’re requesting $3.00 for s+h for postage.
Prayer and Praise! A 40+ year old mentally disabled man contacted Life After about a week before the debate. He was a convert in the LDS Church and was active for approximately seven years. He felt the Lord tell him two months ago to leave the Church because they weren’t Christian. Ironically enough, Michael, ended up attending my church. He then was listening to the radio, heard the debate and called our ministry line. To make things even more confusing for him, Mr. Burnham (from the debate) is Michael’s Stake President. Various members of his ward are harassing him at the stores, etc., in the town they live. I am confident you’ll know how to pray! J This isn’t the first time I’ve had to deal with the Church and mentally impaired members who want out.
Jeff Burnham – Stake President at debate.
Doug Crandall – Jeff’s neighbor and fellow Mormon at debate.
We thank each and every one of you for praying for us and the ministry. We couldn’t do this without you! May God bless you and our warmest greetings go out to you as you celebrate this upcoming Thanksgiving!
With Love in Christ;
1 Cor. 1:18
Quote of the month from the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 156; “O ye Twelve! and all Saints! profit by this important Key—that in all your trials, troubles, temptations, afflictions, bonds, imprisonments and death, see to it, that you do not betray heaven; that you do not betray Jesus Christ; that you do not betray the brethren; that you do not betray the revelations of God, whether in Bible, Book of Mormon, or Doctrine and Covenants, or any other that ever was or ever will be given and revealed unto man in this world or that which is to come. Yea, in all your kicking and flounderings, see to it that you do not this thing, lest innocent blood be found upon your skirts, and you go down to hell. All other sins are not to be compared to sinning against the Holy Ghost, and proving a traitor to the brethren.”
Posted in Lifestyles of the Mormon, tagged Aaronic Priesthood, baptism for the dead, bible, false gospel, freedom, grace, Jesus, lds church, marriage by proxy, Melchezidek Priesthood, Mormon lifestyle, mormonism, Mututal in Action, peace, Priesthood Meetings, Primary, Relief Society, temple endowments, truth, Works for salvation, works vs. grace on 01/24/2011 | Leave a Comment »
Mormon Lifestyles & Daily Routines
The Mormon life is beset with many activities they see as necessary in their ultimate goal towards salvation. Now while we can all be guilty of over scheduling our lives at times, we are assured by the Lord that we are never responsible for our own salvation – Ephesians 2:8-9 says; “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Good works are always a manifestation of our salvation; they never serve as a result of salvation. They are faith in action; never because we must earn our own place beside Him. Unfortunately for the Mormon this is not what they’ve been taught to believe.
Christian churches throughout the world all have their own schedules for activities during the week. Of course Sunday is for worship, but besides that they also provide youth group activities, adult bible studies, prayer and mission groups, mentoring and marital workshops are even offered for weeknight activities. All in all, I’ve never seen any two churches that have a set standard of what must be done on which day. With all this available we understand these are just some of the things that are offered through our churches and we participate in one or two if that is where God has led us to be to bring Him glory.
As a Mormon it never occurred to me to think of what others were doing because I was always too busy trying to earn my way to heaven. For the Mormon the list of “must do’s” never ends and to keep them focused there are sometimes a song that will go along with their daily activity. The following list is typical for the active member of the LDS Church.
Sunday – This is the traditional day of worship. Each member is assigned to a “ward” depending on where you live and it is through this ward the member will participate. The ward is another name for congregation. Church services last for three hour blocks and it is expected the member will stay the entire time.
The rest of the day is dedicated to the Lord for the sole purpose of focusing on Him. They highly stress the members stay at home to study their “scriptures” with no shopping or housework. When I was growing up in Utah there were many days spent at my grandfather’s house obeying these strict rules in addition to not even using electricity or cooking. My grandmother would cook a meal the day before and we would have cold leftovers; in many Mormon homes this is still the case.
The members are expected to wear their “Sunday best” every week for church, no exceptions. This means a dress or skirt for the ladies and girls; for the men and boys you’re looking at business office attire every week. This manner of dress continues for the entire day, not just the church service.
Monday – This day is set aside for “Family Home Evening”. Members are highly discouraged from doing anything outside of spending time with the family and studying “scripture” or participating in a family project at home. The members can download Family Home Evening lessons from the LDS website and can purchase lesson books for other ideas.
Tuesdays through Fridays hold various activities depending on the age and gender of the member. For females there are Relief Society Enrichment Activities that take place usually on a weekly basis. It is here that she will learn the basics of parenting and homemaking skills. They are provided to “strengthen faith in Jesus Christ”.
It is at one of these meetings where the leader will ask for volunteers to demonstrate how to cook a meal, take care of children, etc. The Relief Society also provides “Visiting Teaching”. This means members are assigned a handful of families they are to visit each month that are members of their ward. This is a separate calling and is in addition to the regular Relief Society Meetings. Keep in mind that even if you’re not one of the visiting teachers you still need to be prepared to receive the teachers into your home. You may also receive a calling to teach Sunday school or Primary or be a leader for the young women’s group (MIA). While they are busy prepping for their upcoming teaching lesson there are also the meetings to attend when you’re a teacher.
For the guys there are Priesthood meetings to attend on one of these nights. In their priesthood meetings they “will be strengthened” by learning how to be better husbands, fathers and leaders of their ward. The men may also receive a calling and will serve in various offices such as home teaching, bishops, stake presidents, auxiliary leaders, etc. They too will have the obligatory meetings to attend in addition to preparing for their upcoming lessons they teach.
The youth group of the LDS Church is for those between the ages of 12-18. They are separated by gender and attend their weekly activities by serving in community projects, studying “scripture” or to prepare them to become husbands and wives. They do meet as a combined group on occasion and depending on where you live in the US the meetings are either well put together or it serves as a “hang out time” with friends. Roughly once a quarter they’ll have a church dance or sometimes they call them “fireside meetings”.
The youth in the LDS Church also attends “Seminary” from ninth to twelfth grade. For those outside of the Wasatch front in Utah these classes are held in the morning before school begins. They meet daily from Monday to Friday for about an hour or so to study the history of the Church in addition to the Book of Mormon. The youth in Utah and the surrounding area can attend seminary during their regular class schedules. And yes they are tested each semester to see what they’ve learned.
Couples who are temple worthy and have a free evening should be spending that evening at the temple for ordinance work. This includes sealing of family members to ensure that they will be together forever or to perform proxy work for the dead. Single members who are temple worthy may also attend various proxy work sessions that usually take place on Tuesday evenings.
Saturday – This is a day that is reserved for a few things. 1-There is temple proxy work for the dead that needs to be done as well as the basic temple ordinance work.
2-It’s the day you get ready for Sunday. (There is a primary song that goes along with this). 3-Depending on the ward, they may organize a work party for the church or community service project.
As you can see it is literally endless and quite exhausting. Callings are roles that need to be filled in various capacities in the ward or stake when a vacancy presents itself. Most callings in Mormonism are filled by volunteers or lay clergy, with no monetary compensation. The bishop literally has a list of names from his ward and if you’ve never filled the position of Primary teacher for example, and you’re a female, expect your phone to ring. It matters not if you’re good with children or if you don’t know how to cook to be the homemaker instructor; it is now your turn to serve and it is expected you will do your duty to the Lord. There is really no such thing as being “called by God to be the youth pastor” or “called by God to run the nursery” in the Mormon Church.
Marion Romney said; “No one should seek to be appointed to any particular office in the Church. Such an aspiration is not a righteous desire; it is a self-serving ambition…We should demonstrate that desire by living the gospel and diligently performing whatever service we are called upon to render. Holding a particular office in the Church will never save a person. One’s salvation depends upon how well he discharges the duties of the service to which he is called.” – Magnifying One’s Calling in the Priesthood – President Marion G. Romney; Second Counselor in the First Presidency; Ensign, July 1973, 89.
Each Mormon is also expected to have a year’s supply of food storage at all times so they will be prepared for the day of calamity. The Church has always stressed the importance of “self-reliance” and this is one of the ways they can control their lives without having to rely on anyone else. The Mormon will attend the necessary classes on how to properly store and rotate their food storage and on occasion one of the leaders will address this commandment during one of the General Conferences that are held twice a year. If you cannot afford to buy a year’s worth of food all at once they also offer classes on how to budget each paycheck to build up your supply. On the LDS website it says this in the food storage section; “We want you to be ready with your personal storehouses filled with at least a year’s supply. You don’t argue why it cannot be done; you just plan to organize and get it done” (Spencer W. Kimball, August 1976).” You can also read Ezra Taft Benson’s warning to the saints about the importance of food storage in the same section of their website. He said; “What are some of the calamities for which we are to prepare? In section 29 the Lord warns us of “a great hailstorm sent forth to destroy the crops of the earth.” (D&C 29:16.) In section 45 we read of “an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.” (D&C 45:31.) In section 63 the Lord declares he has “decreed wars upon the face of the earth. …” (D&C 63:33.)”
Mormons have been taught to receive as much education as possible in their lifetime. This is why you see so many successful people in the Church with many of them speaking at least two languages. The Church prides itself on intelligence and has assured its members this is just one of the ways to salvation. In the Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 692 it says; “According to latter-day scripture, “The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth” (D&C 93:36). Mankind, too, may be glorified by gaining intelligence (D&C 93:28-30). As Christ did not receive a fulness of intelligence at first but continued from “grace to grace” until he received a fulness (D&C 93:11-13, 27-28), so it is with all persons. Whatever principles of intelligence they gain in mortality will rise with them in the Resurrection (D&C 130:18-19).”
In many ways the LDS Church resembles another church that existed in the early days of Christianity; it was known as Gnosticism. There was always a higher truth to be learned in order to gain salvation and so it is with the Mormons today. Satan has just wrapped the same old lie into a pretty new package with a bright shiny bow. Smart people in this day and age are looked up to and revered in many vocations; doctors and lawyers are just two examples of this phenomenon. Let us remember what Paul told the Corinthians in his first epistle. 1 Cor. 8:1-2; “… Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.”
The LDS Church also expects all members to pay a full ten percent tithe to the Church. For each member there is a yearly tithing settlement meeting with the bishop; it is at this time you either pay up what you owe for the year or you go without your temple recommend. These little pieces of wallet sized papers are coveted by members of the Church. They serve as proof of a member’s worthiness to get to the Celestial Kingdom and make it possible for them to buy and wear their temple garments. D&C 119:4 says; “And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord.”
Collection plates are not passed around during the Sacrament meetings so the members just turn their tithes in directly to the bishop each time they tithe. In addition to their ten percent tithe that is expected there is also the “fast offering” they give one Sunday a month at their “fast and testimony meetings”. These meetings are held in lieu of a Sacrament meeting where the member is expected to “fast from food” before the meeting. They then donate the money they would have spent on food for the Church to help the poor in the community or for someone in their own ward. It is during these meetings where various members will stand to “bear their testimony” about the “one true Church”. If you’re old enough to talk, you are deemed old enough to participate in bearing your testimony. It seems hard to believe that a three year old would have a testimony about the Church, but this is what you will see at these gatherings. It serves as proof these are memorized things to say instead of it coming from the inner part of a person’s heart.
A young person growing up in Mormonism is taught at an early age to begin saving for the day they can go on a mission. The mission program in the Mormon Church is for young adults around the age of 19 and for the “older” crowd. Generally a married couple will volunteer to go out and serve as mission director for a few years after they’ve established themselves financially and have no major commitments such as small children in the home. The children are taught the Primary song “I hope they call me on a mission” and this is sung routinely throughout their childhood.
Young men serve their missions for two years while the young women serve an eighteen month mission. I remember sitting in the pews as a young girl begging God not to let me go on my mission. If I was old enough to go on a mission it meant I still wasn’t married and I still didn’t have any children. Nowadays young girls tend to wait for those things a little while longer. Up until the last ten years young women didn’t go on missions until they were in their early twenties, but now they have the option to go when they’re nineteen as well. It’s a mixed bag of emotions for the girls in this department even today. If you’re nineteen and not even engaged, you’re definitely planning a mission and quite possibly a full four years of college and for the female this may as well be a death sentence.
The pressure to marry and have children in Mormonism is like nothing you’ll ever experience with any career. The girls are primed and tutored from toddlers on how to quilt, sew, cook, clean and take care of children. They begin making plans for which temple they’ll be married in someday as well as how many children they will have for their husbands. The quest for a “forever family” isn’t much different for the guys with the exception they know they’re going on a mission; no questions asked. They cannot become a god or be exalted without partaking of the everlasting covenant of marriage – this is true salvation for every member of the LDS Church. The Mormon female cannot enter heaven without her husband’s consent and will end up as a servant in heaven if she doesn’t get married for all time and eternity here on earth. Erastus Snow’s words are recorded in Journal of Discourses 5:291; “No woman will get into the celestial kingdom, except her husband receives her, if she is worthy to have a husband; and if not, somebody will receive her as a servant.”
This teaching was so ingrained in me personally that even when I became an inactive Mormon which lasted for thirteen years, the drive to have babies to be found worthy overwhelmed my thoughts for years. I had to be married, I had to have children; no matter the cost and no matter to whom. God at this point had absolutely nothing to do with it because I was earning my salvation by performing these perfunctory duties. It is emotionally and mentally exhausting.
The Mormon people do celebrate birthdays and holidays with a few exceptions. They celebrate things like Thanksgiving, Easter and Christmas, however they do not observe days like Good Friday, Lent, Palm Sunday or Pentecost. On Easter Sunday they will not hear about the resurrection of Jesus, but instead will hear thanks being given for the Prophet Joseph Smith. All significance of who Jesus is, what He did and what God did for us through Christ is virtually non-existent in Mormonism in regards to truth about the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. You can see the response given by the Prophet Joseph Fielding Smith to a question about Good Friday in Answers to Gospel Questions 5:155; “Now as you well know that the resurrection did not vary and it is foolish to celebrate the resurrection of our Lord at the end of March or the first of April, or middle of April or near the first of May, and put Good Friday the Friday before the Easter Sunday. I think you are wise enough to see the foolishness of it. The resurrection of the Savior does not vary year by year but it is a constant thing. Why should we follow the silly custom rather than to have one day for the resurrection?”
Now if all these things weren’t enough there is more. I have never met a Mormon who didn’t have the following two things in common: they cannot say with 100% certainty that they are going to heaven, and they truly believe they have to be perfect. The Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 1074 says; “The man or woman who seeks the perfection of the Redeemer participates in the Father’s work of saving and exalting mankind: “He proceeds to help his frail fellow men in their attempts to progress; thus becoming a partner with God in working out the Plan of Salvation” (Widtsoe, p. 180). Latter-day Saints believe that they must become perfected and one in spirit, as individuals and as a body (Eph. 4:12), in order to inherit the kingdom of God.”
Each time I meet a Mormon I ask them the same question: “if you died today would you go to heaven”. I’ve never had a Mormon tell me they are certain they are going to heaven, not one time. Their response my friend is why Life After Ministries is in existence today. To me there is nothing sadder than to look in their eyes and not see any hope.
In Deuteronomy 28:66 the Lord warned the nation of Israel they would have no hope for their lives if they continued in worshipping false gods and participating in hatred towards their brothers and sisters. The Lord said this in verse 66; “And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life.” Now for the Mormon who says this curse was meant for the Israelites in the Old Testament, I have a question for you. You insist that you must obey the Law of Moses, yet you claim to live under grace through Jesus. The Church leaders are continually telling its members they must “obey the gospel ordinances”. God tells us in the Bible that if you live by the Law you will be judged by the Law. You simply can’t have it both ways. The scripture I’ve pointed out in Deuteronomy is exactly what has happened to the Mormon people. Remember, the LDS Church believes that the body of Christ is the whore of the earth (1 Nephi 14:10); those aren’t exactly loving words for their brothers and sisters.
The expectations a member of the Church carries on their shoulders is ever-so heavy and will never be attainable the way they are going about it! Each day of the week is pre-planned for them; they must be perfect; they are to answer to man for how much they give monetarily after they’ve given all they can physically, mentally, emotionally and most important, spiritually. They are to serve in areas they are ill-equipped to serve on many occasions and they must always look to themselves to be saved. It is a dismal situation at best. They have no choice of how they will dress for church or even when or where they will go to church; every single move is dictated by pre-set “ordinances”.
We receive many e-mails asking us why we “pick on the Mormons” and not all the other religions. Our answer is twofold. First, we haven’t been called to witness to other religions who are speaking of some other savior with another name. We’ve been called by the Jesus of the Bible to witness to those who call their savior by the name of Jesus. Secondly, I am totally convinced the people of Mormonism truly believe they are doing all this for the real Jesus. I know because I was one of them for thirty years and just as I deserved to know the truth, so do they.
If you’re a Mormon you must be told that God doesn’t need you. God doesn’t need any of us at all. Think about it…if God needs man, then what kind of god is he anyway? And is that the type of god you’d want to worship? The God of the Bible is big enough, smart enough to handle the things that come His way.
Know that we pray for you daily and hope to hear from you!
With Love in Christ;
1 Cor. 1:18
Posted in After Mormonism, tagged After Mormonism, bible, body of Christ, Christianity, grace, Jesus Christ, leaving the Church, peace, salvation, truth, Works for salvation on 01/17/2011 | 6 Comments »
So you’re thinking about leaving Mormonism, the only thing you’ve known in your life and now what? That thought goes through every single person’s mind when they come to this crossroad in life.
Jesus or Mormonism?
It’s scary, I know. The doubts for me began stacking up with constant regularity. All I knew at the age of 30 was that I loved Jesus. I was looking for a way to know more about the man I’d read about in the Bible and every time I opened my Book of Mormon I became even more confused and concerned.
I wanted to read stories of Him walking alongside the people in a village or the times He would gently touch someone to cure them of an infirmity. I wanted to read about the socio-political climate of Jerusalem at the time of Jesus and found nothing in my Book of Mormon about it. I wanted those things and I wanted for them to fit in with my cultural heritage of Utah Mormonism.
The more I read in the Bible and compared it to the teachings of the LDS Church the more I realized those two things were incompatible. I began writing down my doubts on one side of a paper and reserved the other side for what the Bible had to say about it. Godhood, other worlds, the color issue, eternal pregnancy, temple marriage and marriage in heaven were the items on my primitive list.
As I was studying these things in the privacy of my home I met a Christian woman named Nancy and that encounter changed my life. She invited me to her church and I accepted, thinking whatever they believed in was going to be heretical. No other church or system was going to have the things I knew and held dear.
As it turned out I ended up leaving Mormonism that day; it was Palm Sunday of ’93.
The next day was filled with panic from what I had done. How would I ever tell my family? Would I have to go to the bishop’s office? What would my family and friends back in Utah think? The questions and bad scenarios in my head were relentless. At the time I didn’t know enough about the Bible to sit down and begin reading it so I could be comforted. I had never been taught that is what it’s for.
The first thing I did in my new life was to sign up for a Bible study my church was offering. It seemed innocuous enough and something I didn’t think would bring much attention to me. Someone there handed me a pamphlet of activities the church offered and the idea of actually studying the Bible in-depth was very appealing. And the rest as they say is history.
If you’re wondering what there is after Mormonism you’re going to be happy when I tell you that this big wide world God created has some pretty amazing things to offer!
Accept Jesus into your heart. There is a simple way to do this! Sit down in the private moment of your day and tell Him what’s on your mind. Talk out loud so you can hear yourself. Accept and admit that you’re a sinner in need of forgiveness and then ask Him to come live inside of you. Tell Him you are in need of a loving Redeemer. Above all else, know that He is there waiting for you. Luke 11:9.
Read through the Romans Road. You can access it here. http://lifeafterministry.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/romans-road
This is a simple list of verses from the Bible to read through and pray as you accept Jesus into your heart.
Tell someone of your decision today! Rejoice with other Christians in your decision to not only believe in Jesus, but your decision to follow Him!
Find a church. There are many good Christian churches out there to attend. If you don’t know where to begin you can ask friends or co-workers or feel free to call us too!
At Life After Ministries we do not advocate one denomination over another. We are an evangelical, para-church ministry. We are not a church and we do not belong to one denomination. We are a group of Christians who each belongs to a different Protestant church. We are all members in the church of Jesus Christ. Some of us live in the Seattle area, others in Pittsburgh, Miami, Atlanta, Oklahoma, Ohio, Arizona, Idaho, California, Utah, etc. Some of us are Baptists; some belong to Calvary Chapel, while others are Lutheran, etc.
We believe in the promise Jesus gave to the apostle Peter in Matthew 16:18 when He said; “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
If you’d like help finding a church we can do that! We can call the churches in your city and begin the search for you if that makes the transition easier for you.
Attending a certain church and becoming a member is not the same as it is in the Mormon Church. You’re a Christian first and foremost. Where you attend church doesn’t make you who you are. You are not the doctrines of that particular denomination any more than you are a duck. Becoming a Christian means you are part of the body of Christ!
Ministries in the local body of Christ are filled by people who’ve been called on by the Lord in a personal way to fill a need in that church. Activities in a Christian church are endless! If you know you like working with kids then you can volunteer with the Children’s programs or if you enjoy helping others with your carpentry or computer skills, I know the church and the Lord will find the place for you.
There are Bible studies, sometimes there are fishing and hunting clubs, running/exercise groups, art and cooking classes, tea parties, or helping shut-ins and the homeless. There are also worship teams so if you’re musically inclined you can join the choir or the worship team if that’s the way the Lord has blessed you.
The Christian church does not have “callings” like the LDS Church does. There are all types of programs offered in the Christian church, but whether or not you volunteer or participate is a personal thing between you and the Lord.
The holiday season seemed to be the most interesting for us in that first year of leaving Mormonism. I found the Christians celebrated Christmas with an enthusiasm I’d never expected. For the first time I celebrated the birth of Jesus without including the birth of Joseph Smith. Not only do the Christians read the New Testament about the birth of Christ, they actually go back to the Old Testament and learn how the birth of the Messiah was foretold by Malachi, Isaiah, Jeremiah and others. The biggest shock for me personally was the way Christians celebrate Easter.
I didn’t know they actually begin the observances of this sacred holiday the week before Easter on Palm Sunday. Then every day thereafter is another day of reflection on what Jesus had done the week leading up to His death. Talk about culture shock!
As for tithing, well this is a personal affair between you and God. The pastor won’t call you in for a yearly tithing settlement. Church members won’t know how much money you made last year unless you’ve openly shared the information with someone and even if you do, there is no one who will call to ask why you didn’t give a full ten percent of your income.
Not long after Kirk and I got saved we were struggling with this issue. Belonging to the Mormon Church made us leery of giving money away to a “man-made” organization. All that changed one day when a friend we had met at church gave us his opinion about tithing when we asked what he did about this issue.
He told us he had the same trepidations in the beginning and then one day the Lord laid it on his heart that the money he gave at the collection plate each week wasn’t about people. It was a personal sacrifice on your part to God.
Do you believe God gave you all that you have? Why not give Him back ten percent of what He gave to you? Those are the questions we had to ask ourselves. Were we putting our trust in man or Him? I can’t explain why, but when it was presented that way we had no problem giving it back to the Lord.
It was the beginning or our understanding that everything about Christianity is a personal relationship between you and Jesus and not between you and a church.
What I can tell you is that now we give more than ten percent. The Lord has blessed us through Kirk’s work and it seems the more we give away, the more we receive.
Jesus gave the members of His church two ordinances to follow; baptism and communion. With that in mind let’s begin with the ordinance of baptism.
Now many churches will want for you to be baptized when you join them in membership. Baptism is an outward expression of an inward change that’s taken place within you.
You are making a public announcement that you’ve aligned yourself to Jesus Christ, the One True God of the Bible. As you are dunked into the water you’ve made a proclamation that your present sinful life is dead and buried with Him. You are admitting that you are dead in your sins. Being brought up out of the water signifies you have a new life that’s been resurrected from your previous way of life. Romans 6:3-7.
Now let’s look at communion. Some churches serve communion every week while others serve it once a month and I’ve heard of some serving it only once a year.
The significance of communion mustn’t be overlooked. I’ve never attended a biblically sound Christian church that serves water and Wonderbread©. And I do mean never. The LDS Church is the only place I have seen this practiced.
The elements used in communion are emblems of two things. The wine (or juice in most Protestant churches) is emblematic of the blood Jesus shed for you personally while He hung on that cross to pay for your sins.
The unleavened piece of bread represents His sinless life. Jesus is the bread of life (John 6:51) and we are told by Him to partake of His life. When He broke the unleavened bread to give to His disciples He was showing them that His body would be broken so they (we) might have life. Just as the Passover is a symbol of the Old Covenant so is communion to the New Covenant. 1 Cor. 11:23-27.
When we partake of the elements we are proclaiming the Lord’s death until He returns. It’s an acknowledgement that He died and was resurrected and you believe His promise to return. You are also proclaiming He is your only hope for salvation and He is your God and Savior.
With all that being said let me also point out that unbelievers and children should not be participating in communion. The scriptures are clear when the apostle Paul stated anyone partaking of the elements unworthily is bringing damnation upon his head. Also see Hebrews 10:29-31.
Will your life change when you leave Mormonism? Absolutely! Will there still be the everyday struggles of kids bickering and the dog barking incessantly while the phone is ringing as you’re making dinner? Yep. Those little things don’t go away when you become a Christian.
You won’t be living in a plastic world of “everybody’s happy”. Real life still happens, people die, people are born, cars break down and jobs are gained and lost.
BUT – the Holy Spirit is living inside of you; 1 Corinthians 3:16, 1 Corinthians 6:19. Wherever you go, whatever you do, God is there with you.
What does change is the way those things are handled by you. Your focus will be on Him and the relationship you have with Him (Romans 12:2)! He is your helper (Deuteronomy 31:6). He is the One that will come and make His abode within you (John 14:23). He is the One that gives you hope during the crazy day that never seems to end (Romans 8:6) – He is the Lord of hosts, meaning He is Jehovah Sabaoth – the Lord over everything (Isaiah 6:1-8).
Gone are the thoughts of having to make sure you have your food storage up to date and worrying over the upcoming interview by the bishop for your worthiness. If you believe in Jesus and His spilled blood for you on the cross, God sees you as worthy.
The only “meetings” you have in your future are the precious and private prayers with God the Father and His Son Jesus who died for you. You are a new creature in Him – (2 Corinthians 5:17).
Welcome my friend, to the life of Christianity! It is lovely to know you are free and it is peaceful beyond description. Never in a million years would I have thought it could be this good.
With Love in Christ;
1 Cor. 1:18
Posted in Heavenly Mother, tagged mormonism, bible, godhood, Jesus, freedom, false gospel, grace, Heavenly Father, Mormon doctrine, faith, Redeemer, Works for salvation, heavenly mother, exalted man, Answers to Gospel Questions, mercy on 01/14/2011 | 1 Comment »
The Heavenly Mother of Mormonism
By Melissa Grimes
One of the core beliefs in Mormonism is that not only do they have a Father in Heaven, but a Mother in Heaven as well. This doctrine came from what they call “latter day revelation”, yet it isn’t something you’ll find in any of their extra scriptures.