Decrees of God Unalterable
Alma 41:8; “Now, the decrees of God are unalterable; therefore, the way is prepared that whosoever will may walk therein and be saved.”
Mormon Doctrine, pg. 527; “In all past ages and until recent times in this dispensation, the Lord did not offer the priesthood to the Negroes. However, on June 1, 1978, in the Salt Lake Temple, in the presence of the First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve, President Spencer W. Kimball received a revelation from the Lord directing that the gospel and the priesthood should now go to all men without reference to race or color.”
Deut. 13:1-5; “If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.”
This serves as just one example of how the god of Mormonism does indeed change his mind and therefore qualifies as a false prophecy. Both Joseph Smith and the rest of the leaders of the Church are proven wrong by God in this one.
How can you trust a god who changes his mind? From where does your confidence come from? Certainly not from a god you worship who can’t foresee man made laws will revoke your prophet’s declarations!
I do not believe your conclusions to be true, and I do not believe what I am going give you as an example of what your conclusions means when expanded into the rest of God’s Word. THIS IS WHAT YOUR CONCLUSION REQUIRES, not what I believe.
Since there are examples in the NT that has God changing what he taught in the OT, the NT must be false.
Again, this statement is based on your conclusions, not my beliefs.
fred
Fred- the main core message (we are seperated from God by our sin and we need someone to atone for those sins in order that we can have everlasting life in fellowship with God) and the very nature and attributes of God have never changed between the OT and the NT. Please site instances where doctrine changed btwn the 2 testaments…
I have never understood why those who say they know the Bible and the Book of Mormon better than I do have a problem finding the places God changed what He said in the Bible.
Could it be that they only want to find things wrong with my beliefs and they don’t want to check to see how their conclusions affects the part of God’s Word they accept?
fred
Well actually I am visiting my grandson for his birthday and only have my blackberry to work off of, so it is a little difficult to search the web… I haven’t had the time to get to a hot spot so I can work off my tablet… So can you name me one?
Search the Bible!
Fred-
God doesn’t contradict Himself or change. The Bible is the true, unerring Word of God. Where things seem contradictory, there are explained by reading other verses. (You need to get a KJV that doesn’t have the notes of the Mormon Church so you can start a fresh search for yourself.) and for clarity, try the newer English versions fo the Bible, too. You will see that they indeed agree with the meaning of the KJV…
The KJV Bible has little letters or numbers in side or footnotes for you to look up the verses that explain or expound on the one that you are reading. The Bible is translated correctly and has been in use hundreds of years. We are warned that nothing can be changed in the book in Revalation- the last chapter of the Bible.
You say that they are inaccuracies but you don’t point to where they are; conversely, the Book of Mormon has been changed so many times. There are mis-quaoted verses from the Bible in cluded in the Book of Mormon. THe other books in the Morman religion, along with the Morman religion itself, don’t even agree. Yet the versions of the Bible agree and the Dead Sea Scrolls all agree with the KJV.
You also can go online now and read the Dead Sea scrolls now for yourself.
They are the oldest of the written Word of God of the Old Testament. How old is the Book of Morman and are there any Dead Sea Scrolls for that? Where is the proof that this is a god-given, true text/book to read?
We care about you and that you get to know the love of the God we worship. We hope that you find your answer in HIs word, the Bible alone. That is how God speaks to us. Very simply in his Word.
Dead Sea Scrolls-read Isaiah online and compare with KJV here!
http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/dss_video
Thanks Sue J…
It’s like when I witness to non-believers and they say, “The Bible is full of contradictions!”
I reply, “Name me one contradiction”. Usually, at that point, the topic of the Bible having contradictions shifts to, “Well, the church is full of hypocrits”.
To which I reply, “I am not witnessing to you about a church, I am witnessing to you about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ”.
What happened to the law of Moses then. It sounds like god may reveal things necessary to the salvation of his children according to their needs of the time.
The Law and the Gospel. THe Law acts s a curb or mirror to us and shows us our sin. We could not keep it and the penalty is death. The Gospel is the Good News that Jesus came, kept the Law perfectly, paid our debt and died for us on the cross. He triumphantly rose again on Easter. Jesus fulfilled the Law.
We are set free from its bondage and have eternal life now by believing that Jesus died and rose again for us. We look at the Law to daily remember our sin and curb our desires. We rember that we are baptized in Him daily, too, and now are forgiven, can go forward and have immense joy that we are not under the curse of the Law anymore.
In joyful response to what God has done, we do good works for others.