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‘For we are his workmanship…’ Ephesians 2:10

 A few days ago Melissa told me about a post on a Facebook page that reminded me of what it’s like for members of the LDS Church. The post was a quote from a speech by Thomas Monson who was giving pointers on how to be perfect, and a Mormon scripture from 3 Nephi 12:48.

“Our goal is to achieve, to excel, to strive for perfection. Remember, however, that our business in life is not to get ahead of others but to get ahead of ourselves. To break our own record, to outstrip our yesterdays by today, to bear our trials more beautifully than we ever dreamed we could, to give as we never have given, to do our work with more force and a finer finish than ever—this is the true objective.”

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Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 674 “When the Kingdom of God is fully set up and established on the face of the earth, and takes the preeminence over all other nations and kingdoms, it will protect the people in the enjoyment of all their rights, no matter what they believe, what they profess, or what they worship. If they wish to worship a god of their own workmanship, instead of the true and living God, all right, if they will mind their own business and let other people alone. 2:310.” — Great Salt Lake City, July 8, 1855 (more…)

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Discourses of Brigham Young, pp. 665-666 “…I am satisfied that it will not do for the Lord to make this people popular. Why? Because all hell would want to be in the Church. The people must be kept where the finger of scorn can be pointed at them. What is the reason of this?

Christ and Baal cannot become friends. When I see this people grow and spread and prosper I feel there is more danger than when they are in poverty. Being driven from city to city . . . is nothing compared to the danger of becoming rich and being hailed by outsiders as a first-class community. … I am afraid of only one thing. What is that? That we will not live our religion… 12:272.” — Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, August 16, 1868

You can also find this at 2001 Church News Archives; and in Gospelink, Discourses of BY, p. 434. (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 2:346 “…How was it that Joseph Smith was enabled to make those doctrines as plain as the alphabet? It was because God was with him; God was in the work; and we would just as soon worship that Holy Spirit or intelligence in Joseph Smith or in any person else, not the person, but the God that is in him, as to worship the same attributes somewhere else. And when we find the Father of Jesus Christ, we will worship Him, not the flesh and bones, but the attributes.

…How can the poor ignorant Indians of the forest worship acceptably until they are taught about God and about Jesus? They must understand a great many things in order to enable them to comprehend the things of God, and be baptized in an acceptable manner. If we would worship the Father and the Son, we must know something about them.” — Orson Pratt, Great Salt Lake City, February 18, 1855 (more…)

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“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” Jude 1:3

Journal of Discourses 9:298 “With us the Bible is the first book, the Book of Mormon comes next, then the revelations in the book of Doctrine and Covenants, then the teachings of the living oracles, yet you will find, in the end, that the living oracles of God have to take all things of heaven and earth, above and beneath, and bring them together and devote them to God, and sanctify and purify them and prepare them to enter into the kingdom of heaven.” — Brigham Young, Great Salt Lake City, May 25, 1862

And therein lies the problem. Mr. Young contradicted himself while offering grand speeches to church members which served one purpose: to trick and mislead. (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 13:125-126 “Jesus … established his kingdom on the earth…. the kingdoms of this world made war against the kingdom of God, established eighteen centuries ago, and they prevailed against it, and the kingdom ceased to exist. … This is what we believe; and it is the sincere belief and faith of the Latter-day Saints that we are in that kingdom. It is true that our King is now absent: he is in the heavens. But we expect him again; we look for him and he will come in his own due time… in organizing this kingdom He has restored all the essential characteristics of His kingdom in its embryo, or its beginning: such as inspired men, inspired prophets, inspired leaders, called by revelation to act in different positions.” — Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, April 10, 1870 (more…)

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No Ma’am, That’s Not History, p 46 “…of all churches in the world only this one has not found it necessary to readjust any part of its doctrine in the last hundred years.” – Hugh Nibley, LDS apologist

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‘The Christian worker must never forget that salvation is God’s thought, not man’s… … Every element of self-reliance must be slain by the power of God.’ — Oswald Chambers, May 5

 Today we’re exploring one of the Church’s new advertisements that was listed on the front page of their website last week. The topic was on the benefits of Self-Reliance.

Practical Courses, Spiritual Benefits “…Self-reliance does not mean that we can accomplish or obtain anything we want. If we are self-reliant we believe that through the power of Christ, and through our own effort, we can work for the spiritual and practical needs of life. Many people can become more self-reliant. … The self-reliance initiative is a tool to help.” [emp. added]

Galatians 3:2 “This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?”

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Journal of Discourses 2:128-129 “…The Lord Almighty will not let anything endure that offers hospitality to the devil and his imps…devils cannot construct a house…that is the very thing which causes us trouble continually; for they are trying all the time to get into our dwellings, because they have none of their own. … They are in our midst watching for an opportunity to enter where they may. What will be the doom of those who give way to them, and yield to them the possession of their tabernacles? They will wander to and fro, happiness will be hid from them, they will weep, and wail, and suffer, until their bodies return to their mother earth, and their spirits to judgment.” —Brigham Young, Great Salt Lake City, April 17, 1853 (more…)

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 Journal of Discourses 6:125 “Jesus said to his disciples, “Ye are the salt of the earth; and if the salt loses its saving principle, it is then good for nothing but to be cast out.” Instead of reading it just as it is, almost all of you read it just as it is not. Jesus meant to say, “If you have lost the saving principles, you Twelve Apostles, and you that believe in my servants the Twelve, you shall be like unto the salt that has lost its saving principles: it is henceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men.” Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him. It is said in the Bible that his bowels gushed out; but they actually kicked him until his bowels came out.” – Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City, December 13, 1857

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 Melissa e-mailed me the meme of a Mormon quote that’s quite popular on FB. She mentioned the quote had no reference on where to find the original source so I went looking around and found this in a speech given by one of their apostles, Robert D. Hales.

Our question is this –

If you’re a true prophet of God wouldn’t you know your salvation is dependent upon the works of Jesus and not yourself?

Really now, if their commander in chief doesn’t have faith in what he’s doing, how are the followers supposed to have unquestioning faith?

General Conference, ‘Examples from the Life of a Prophet,’ October 1981 (more…)

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Doctrines of Salvation 1:236 “SAINTS ARE THE BEST PEOPLE. We are, notwithstanding our weaknesses, the best people in the world. I do not say that boastingly, for I believe that this truth is evident to all who are willing to observe for themselves. We are morally clean, in every way equal, and in many ways superior to any other people. The reason is that we have received the truth, the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.” — Joseph Fielding Smith (more…)

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Decisions for Successful Living, pp. 164-165; “The privilege of obtaining a mortal body on this earth is seemingly so priceless that those in the spirit world, even though unfaithful or not valiant, were undoubtedly permitted to take mortal bodies although under penalty of racial or physical or nationalistic limitations.” – Harold B. Lee, 1973

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Journal of Discourses 14:149 “…much as he [Joseph Smith] is scorned and despised, he had hundreds and thousands who would have gone to the death with him when he went to death, but Jesus found not a man. Joseph Smith, though he spent only fourteen years in presiding over this people, organizing the Church, proclaiming the Gospel and receiving revelations, yet had hundreds and thousands of men and women who were ready to go to the death with him.” — Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, June 25, 1871 (more…)

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Ensign, ‘The Living Christ,’ May 1977, 26

Bernard Brockbank (1909 – 2000) served in several capacities in the Church, namely that of Missions President in the British Isles in the early 1960’s. In the ‘70’s he served as one of the seven assistants to the twelve to live outside the U.S. He was also in charge of the Mormon Pavilion at the New York’s World Fair from 1964-1965 at which time the Church saw a huge increase of members because of his work.

Today we’re looking at an article he wrote 40 years ago. There’s one main purpose in looking at this –

It shows how the Church has used God’s word to deceive. They use the Bible, which they’ve condemned, to lure people in, and present themselves as God’s true messengers.

People like my mother have been tricked by their conniving ways for almost two hundred years now. The very first thing he said should serve as a warning to everyone who concerns themselves with the cause of Christ. They’re singing the same tune even now in the 21st Century… (more…)

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 We came upon Mr. Hyde’s remarks about Moroni while looking for references on another subject, and had to share this one. Sigh… We’ll be sure to add this to our next installment of ‘Worst of the Worst Quotes’.

Journal of Discourses 6:368 “…it may not be amiss to ask here, by whose power victory so often perched on our banner? It was by the agency of that same angel of God that appeared unto Joseph Smith, and revealed to him the history of the early inhabitants of this country, whose mounds, bones, and remains of towns, cities, and fortifications speak from the dust in the ears of the living with the voice of undeniable truth. (more…)

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Wilford Woodruff

 Waiting for World’s End: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, edited by Susan Staker, Signature Books, 1993, p. 305 “Again Presdet Young said Joseph the Prophet told me that the garden of Eden was in Jackson Co Missouri, & when Adam was driven out of the garden of Eden He went about 40 miles to the Place which we Named Adam Ondi Ahman, & there built an Altar of Stone & offered Sacrifize. That Altar remains to this day. I saw it as Adam left it as did many others, & through all the revolutions of the world that Altar had not been disturbed. Joseph also said that when the City of Enoch fled & was translated it was whare the gulf of Mexico now is. It left that gulf a body of water.” [sic] – Wilford Woodruff

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Joseph Smith and the Messiah: Prophetically Linked “Prophets Aid in Redemption … These three prophets, Joseph of Egypt, Moses, and Joseph of the latter days, are linked to the Savior by their work in helping to redeem His children … Joseph of Egypt helped bring…salvation to his family who fled the famine in Canaan…Moses helped bring…salvation to the children of Israel by leading them out of bondage in Egypt…Likewise, the latter–day Joseph “in the Spirit of power” brought Israel “out of darkness into light . . . and out of captivity unto freedom…” — RoseAnn Brown, 2002 (more…)

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 “Our Consuming Mission,” Address to CES Religious Educators, 5 February 1999 “[T]he Second Coming has been in process at least since 1820, beginning on a lovely spring morning in a sacred grove in Palmyra, New York. We have been in one phase or another, then, of the Second Coming for at least 179 years, with sacred appearances of the Savior all along that calendar, some of them recorded but most of them not.” — Jeffrey R. Holland (more…)

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Millennial Star, No. 17, Vol. 56, 23 Apr. 1894, 260 “If any of us are imperfect, it is our duty to pray for the gift that will make us perfect. Have I imperfections? I am full of them. What is my duty? To pray to God to give me the gifts that will correct these imperfections. …

He wants His Saints to be perfected in the truth. For this purpose He gives these gifts, and bestows them upon those who seek after them, in order that they may be a perfect people upon the face of the earth, notwithstanding their many weaknesses, because God has promised to give the gifts that are necessary for their perfection.” — George Cannon (more…)

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