Posted in pre-existence, tagged LDS 2023 NT Manual on 02/09/2023| 11 Comments »
Manual, New Testament Stories, Introduction “Our Heavenly Father’s Plan … We lived in heaven with Heavenly Father before we came to earth. We are His spirit children and had spirit bodies. We loved Him, and He loved us. … Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 354” (more…)
Posted in pre-existence, tagged Boyd K. Packer, Ensign October 1983, false apostle, premortal life, The Mystery of Life on 12/22/2019| 2 Comments »
Ensign, ‘The Mystery of Life,’ October 1983 “There is no way to make sense out of life without a knowledge of the doctrine of premortal life. The idea that mortal birth is the beginning is preposterous. There is no way to explain life if you believe that. The notion that life ends with mortal death is ridiculous. There is no way to face life if you believe that. When we understand the doctrine of premortal life, then things fit together and make sense. We then know that little boys and little girls are not monkeys, nor are their parents, nor were theirs, to the very beginning generation. We are the children of God, created in his image. Our child-parent relationship to God is clear. The purpose for the creation of this earth is clear. The testing that comes in mortality is clear. The need for a redeemer is clear. When we do understand that principle of the gospel, we see a Heavenly Father and a Son; we see an atonement and a redemption. We understand why ordinances and covenants are necessary. We understand the necessity for baptism by immersion for the remission of sins. We understand why we renew that covenant by partaking of the sacrament. I have but touched upon the doctrine of premortal life. We cannot, in these brief conference talks, do more than that. Oh, if we but had a day, or even an hour, to speak of it.” — Boyd K. Packer (more…)
Posted in pre-existence, tagged Brigham Young, creation of man, false prophet, Journal of Discourses, pre-existence on 08/28/2019| 1 Comment »
Today we’re looking at a couple of sermons Brigham delivered over a 4 month period of time. I noticed the discrepancies while working on another project several months ago.
Journal of Discourses 4:54 “We are of the earth, earthy; and our Father is heavenly and pure. But we will be glorified and purified, if we obey our brethren and the teachings which are given.” — Brigham Young, Great Salt Lake City, September 21, 1856
Four months later… (more…)
Posted in pre-existence, tagged false teacher of Mormonism, Man lived with God before earth life, Milton Hunter, Satan and Jesus are brothers, The Gospel through the Ages on 07/22/2019| 3 Comments »
The Gospel through the Ages 16 “INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES … Among the spirits assembled at that great council there were no two exactly alike. Some were more intelligent, more daring, more obedient than others. … …it was but natural for a difference of opinion to develop over the two proposed plans of salvation.
Lucifer vigorously campaigned for his plan, which was in opposition to the original Gospel pattern. His proposition, however, appealed to many of God’s children, especially to the unadventurous ones. For them victory and salvation seemed to be assured if they followed Lucifer.
…the great majority of the progressive spirits…welcomed a world that offered real adventure and constant danger, where they could be agents unto themselves to cooperate with God in a great social scheme of learning and living truth—….” — Milton R. Hunter, 1945 [emp. added] (more…)
Posted in General Conference April 2017, pre-existence, tagged Bonnie H Cordon, false teacher, General Conference April 2017, pre-existence, testimonies on 10/06/2018| Leave a Comment »
General Conference, ‘Trust in the Lord and Lean Not,’ April 2017 “Remember, in our premortal life we stood with the Savior. We trusted Him. We voiced our support, enthusiasm, and joy for the plan of happiness set forth by our Heavenly Father. We leaned not. We fought with our testimonies and “aligned ourselves with the forces of God, and those forces were victorious.” This battle between good and evil has moved to earth. Once again we have the sacred responsibility to stand as a witness and put our trust in the Lord.” — Bonnie H. Cordon, Young Women’s President (more…)
Posted in pre-existence, tagged debasing Jesus, false doctrines of Mormonism, George Cannon, Journal of Discourses on 07/01/2018| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 26:186 – 187 “If it were possible for the Lord Jesus to descend from the mansions of glory and take possession of a mortal tabernacle, and be born of a woman in the shape of an infant, is it not equally possible that we all did the same? …
The Bible proves to us that Jesus existed with the Father, and that He descended from His high estate in the regions of glory to become a mortal man…Now, is there anything difficult or incomprehensible in the thought, that we all in like manner, existed with the Father, and with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, before we came here? ” – George Q. Cannon, Salt Lake City, September 28th, 1884 (more…)
Posted in pre-existence, tagged Choices, General Conference October 1988, pre-existence, Robert D. Hales on 02/21/2017| Leave a Comment »
Isaiah 44:24; “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, And he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; That stretcheth forth the heavens alone; That spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.”
General Conference, ‘Making Righteous Choices at the Crossroads of Life,’ October 1988
“Indeed, you and I have a plan to guide us in our lives—the eternal plan that was given to us in the premortal world and that will bring us back into the presence of our Heavenly Father.” – Robert D. Hales
Posted in General Conference April 2016, pre-existence, tagged false apostle of Mormonism, false doctrines of Mormonism, family council in heaven, General Conference April 2016, M. Russell Ballard, pre-existence on 04/30/2016| 1 Comment »
Psalm 75:6-7; “For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south. 7 But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.”
Today we’re looking at the Sovereignty of God!
As a Mormon I had never heard of such a thing, and always believed I was in heaven with God and everyone else before the world was created. This for me, was one of the most shocking discoveries when I left Mormonism.
This is why we’re looking at Mr. Ballard’s talk. All the claims he made here are lies.
General Conference, ‘Family Councils,’ Saturday Afternoon Session, April 2, 2016; “Family councils have always been needed. They are, in fact, eternal. We belonged to a family council in the premortal existence, when we lived with our heavenly parents as their spirit children. …
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, pre-existence, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, Orson Pratt, pre-existence, spirit children, The Seer on 01/16/2016| Leave a Comment »
The Seer, “The Pre-existence of Man,” Vol. 1, No. 7, July, 1853, p. 98; “Spirits, though pure and innocent, before they entered the body, would become contaminated by entering a fallen tabernacle; not contaminated by their own sins, but by their connection with a body brought into the world by the fall, earthly, fallen, imperfect, and corrupt in its nature. A spirit, having entered such a tabernacle, though it may commit no personal sin, is unfit to return again into the presence of a holy Being. . .” – Orson Pratt, Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
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