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 Conference Report, April 1880, pp. 86-87 “Among the great events clearly portrayed by that Pyramid, was the organization of this Church on the sixth of April, 1830. This is expressed in the construction of the “Great Step,” in the Grand Gallery of that Pyramid.” — Orson Pratt (more…)

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November 30 — Mormon Jesus is a Polygamist. Zechariah 9:9c “… and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.”

John 5:30 “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (more…)

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 August 17 – Using Malachi to Build Mormon Temples. 1 Thessalonians 4:8; “So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.”

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November 30 — Was Jesus a Polygamist? Zechariah 9:9c; “… and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.”

John 5:30; “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (more…)

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 August 27 – Visions. Ezekiel 13:9 “And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.”

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Non-Mormon Kids are Illegitimate Mormon Dilemma 605

Journal of Discourses 17:145 “Now I want to say a few words to our young people who dwell in different part of the Territory. I have heard that some of them, perhaps through a want of understanding of the laws of God, have suffered themselves to be married by the civil law—for instance, by a justice of the peace, alderman or judge. That will do very well so far as the laws of the land are concerned, but has God anything to do with such marriages? Nothing at all. Has he ever authorized marriages to be solemnized after this order? Not at all. Are children born of such marriages your legal sons and daughters in the sight of heaven? Not at all; they are in one sense bastards.” – Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, July 19, 1874

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Journal of Discourses 2:344-346 “The plain, simple Scriptural doctrine is that God’s Spirit is there, which is God in all His power and majesty. All those seemingly mysterious passages which the learned divines have applied to the person of the Father being omnipresent, have reference to that All-wise Spirit of which we have spoken. … that a person who believes and follows this as taught in the Book of Covenants, and the Book of Mormon, will never be confounded. … What influence will this have over a man who believes it? It will put him more upon his guard…when we know that the Holy Spirit is everywhere present, being combined with all matter then we have a correct understanding. (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 2:338 “…where the personal pronoun is applied to the Spirit, as “He shall lead and guide you into all truth;” “he shall not speak of himself but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak;” and “he shall take of the things of the Father, and show them unto you.”

From these and many other passages of the same kind and bearing, we may draw the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is actually a person. Then, again, there are other revelations where the pronoun it is applied, such for instance as, “The Spirit itself maketh intercession with groanings that cannot be uttered.” And many other revelations convey the idea that the Spirit is a diffused substance. Just so in the Book of Mormon, we find many of those terms, and consequently we are left to our own conjecture respecting there being a personal Holy Spirit; but one thing is certain, whether there is personal Holy Spirit or not, there is an inexhaustible quantity of that Spirit that is not a person. This is revealed; this is a fact. And it is just as probable to my mind, that there should be a portion of it organized into a person, as that it should exist universally diffused among all the materials in space.

This Holy Spirit is all-wise, and in many of its attributes much like the Father and Son, and acts in concert with them. It governs and controls all things, and from this some might infer that it has the same knowledge and power as the Father and Son have.” — Orson Pratt, Great Salt Lake, February 18, 1855 (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 1:63 “I have already told you that the spirits of men and women, all had a previous existence…that among them are many spirits that are more noble, more intelligent than others, that were called the great and mighty ones, reserved until the dispensation of the fulness of times…that they may be Prophets, Priests, and Kings to the Most High God. …

The Lord has not…kept them waiting for their bodies all this time to send them among the Hottentots, the African negroes, the idolatrous Hindoos, or any other of the fallen nations that dwell upon the face of this earth.  They are not kept in reserve in order to come forth to receive such a degraded parentage upon the earth…” — Orson Pratt, Great Salt Lake City, August 29, 1852 (more…)

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 January 24 – Nephi Traded the Tabernacle for a Wigwam. Exodus 12:46 “In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof.”

John 19:31-36 “The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. 33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. 35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe. 36 For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.”

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“Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 46:8

The Seer, p. 224 “God is a God of truth, and cannot lie without violating the great perfections and attributes of his nature, which if he should do, his power and glory would cease, and other Beings who are filled with all the fullness of his attributes, would succeed in his place. But God knowing all things, and loving righteousness and truth with a perfect love, it is impossible for him to violate the great unchangeable principles of his nature. (more…)

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‘Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; Let thy glory be above all the earth.’ Psalm 57:5

 The psalm above is also a beloved song for Christians worldwide. It evokes believers to stand while singing, and reflect with awe the wonders of God Almighty, and the Power He alone holds.

Today’s LDS reference is a reminder of how the Mormon god is fixated on one thing, and that’s sex.

There’s absolutely no excuse for what Mr. Pratt said in his book, ‘The Seer’, and must be regarded as the highest form of debauchery. While everyone is familiar with Pratt’s explanation that the body of Jesus required both a mother and father, we thought it imperative to look at the rest of what he said. (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 13:125-126 “Jesus … established his kingdom on the earth…. the kingdoms of this world made war against the kingdom of God, established eighteen centuries ago, and they prevailed against it, and the kingdom ceased to exist. … This is what we believe; and it is the sincere belief and faith of the Latter-day Saints that we are in that kingdom. It is true that our King is now absent: he is in the heavens. But we expect him again; we look for him and he will come in his own due time… in organizing this kingdom He has restored all the essential characteristics of His kingdom in its embryo, or its beginning: such as inspired men, inspired prophets, inspired leaders, called by revelation to act in different positions.” — Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, April 10, 1870 (more…)

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 August 27 – Visions. Ezekiel 13:9 “And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.”

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 If this wasn’t such an important part of LDS theology, it’d hardly be worth the time to point out the discrepancy we found here. However, Mormonism’s foundation relies on the belief God needed Satan’s intervention to help carry out His plan…

Devil is Cause of Death

Journal of Discourses 1:281 “…He has permitted the destroyer to visit them, who has usurped a certain dominion and authority, carrying desolation and ruin on every hand; the perfections of the original organizations have ceased.” — Orson Pratt, Great Salt Lake, July 25, 1852 (more…)

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“For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.” 1 Kings 14:23

The Seer, Vol. 1 and 2, pp. 23-24 “The Gods who dwell in the heavens from which our spirits came, are beings who have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundation of this earth was laid.

These Gods being redeemed from the grave with their wives, are immortal and eternal, and will die no more, but they and their wives will be supremely happy. All the endearing ties of conjugal love, which existed in their bosoms when terrestial and fallen beings, are now greatly increased and perfected…” — LDS Apostle Orson Pratt, January 1853 (more…)

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The Kingdom of God, Pt. 1, No. 2, p. 4 “The Godhead consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Father is a material being… The substance of his person occupies space the same as other matter. It has solidity, length, breadth, and thickness, like all other matter. The elementary materials of his body are not susceptible of occupying, at the same time, the same identical space with other matter. The substance of his person, like other matter, cannot be in two places at the same instant. It also requires time for him to transport himself from place to place. It matters not how great the velocity of his movements, time is an essential ingredient to all motion, whether rapid or slow.” – Orson Pratt, 1848 (more…)

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The Seer, p. 85 “And in that day Adam blessed God, and was filled, and began to prophesy, concerning all the families of the earth: blessed be the name of God for my transgression, for in this life I shall have joy, and again in my flesh I shall see God.” — Orson Pratt, 1853 (more…)

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February 8 – Trusting Wrong Translators. 2 Peter 1:20-21 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (more…)

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November 30 — Jesus the Polygamist? Zechariah 9:9c; “… and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.”

John 5:30; “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” (more…)

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