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Temple Worship

Mormon Decisions 10Ensign, “The Symbol of Our Membership”, October 1994; “Let us be a temple-attending and a temple-loving people. Let us hasten to the temple as frequently as time and means and personal circumstances allow. Let us go not only for our kindred dead, but let us also go for the personal blessing of temple worship, for the sanctity and safety which is provided within those hallowed and consecrated walls. The temple is a place of beauty, it is a place of revelation, it is a place of peace. It is the house of the Lord. It is holy unto the Lord. It should be holy unto us…But to have the temple indeed be a symbol unto us, we must desire it to be so. We must live worthy to enter the temple. We must keep the commandments of our Lord.” – Howard Hunter

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Joseph isn’t Righteous

Mormon Decisions 10Words of Joseph Smith, May 21, 1843, pg 204; “I love that man better who swears a stream as long as my arm, and administering to the poor and dividing his substance, than the long smooth faced hypocrites. I don’t want you to think I am very righteous, for I am not very righteous. God judgeth men according to the light he gives them.”

2 Cor. 5:19, 21; “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

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Translating “Scripture”

Mormon Decisions 10Ensign, “A Treasured Testament”, July 1993, pg 61; “The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Yet we do have a few precious insights. David Whitmer wrote: “Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.” (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)” – Russell M. Nelson

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Book of Mormon Challenge

Mormon Decisions 10D&C 67:6-8; “Now, seek ye out of the Book of Commandments, even the least that is among them, and appoint him that is the most wise among you; 7 Or, if there be any among you that shall make one like unto it, then ye are justified in saying that ye do not know that they are true; 8 But if ye cannot make one like unto it, ye are under condemnation if ye do not bear record that they are true.”

Isn’t it interesting that the same challenge is made in the Quran – 

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Vows

Ensign, “Heed the Prophet’s Voice”, November 1994; “Today we have had the opportunity of raising our right arms to the square and sustaining Howard W. Hunter as our President. This is a historic occasion, as well as an opportunity to contemplate the blessing it is to have a prophet of God to lead us. I believe we should pause at the conclusion of this memorable session to remember what it means to sustain a President of the Church as a seer and a prophet…The Lord Almighty leads this Church, and he will never suffer you to be led astray if you are found doing your duty. You may go home and sleep as sweetly as a babe in its mother’s arms, as to any danger of your leaders leading you astray, for if they should try to do so the Lord would quickly sweep them from the earth. Your leaders are trying to live their religion as far as [they are] capable of doing so” (in Journal of Discourses, 9:289).” – Tom L. Perry

Matthew 5:33, 36; “Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths…36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”

Raising your hand in promising to tell the truth in a court room or showing your affirmation in voting someone into office is not the same as what the Mormon Church is doing. 

Holding your arm to the square whether you’re voting someone into office or taking a vow/oath to the Mormon god while in a temple is not, let me repeat, not from God. This action is performed in Masonic temples while taking oaths to bow down and promise loyalty to Jahbulon. 

While taking oaths in the Mormon temple ceremony, Mormons hold their arm to the square and promise to keep the Laws of Sacrifice just before they take the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. This will be one of many times they do this during the ceremonies

The following is part of the script from theGarden Endowment Ceremony”;

Each of you bring your right arm to the square.

You and each of you solemnly covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar that you will observe and keep the law of sacrifice, as contained in the Old and New Testaments, as it has been explained to you.

Each of you bow your head and say, “Yes””.

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Bible Not Necessary

Mormon Decisions 10A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, pg 40; “…the everlasting gospel could not be discovered through reading the Bible alone… this is the only Christian church in the world that did not have to rely upon the Bible for its organization and government…if we had no Bible we would still have all the needed direction and information through the revelations of the Lord to his servants, the prophets in these latter days.” – LeGrand Richards

1 Corinthians 3:11; “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

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Kolob Time

Mormon Decisions 10Abraham 5:13; “But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the time that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Now I, Abraham, saw that it was after the Lord’s time, which was after the time of Kolob; for as yet the Gods had not appointed unto Adam his reckoning.”

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God was Resurrected

Mormon Decisions 10Doctrines of Salvation 1:76; “Now what is a spiritual body? It is one that is quickened by spirit and not by blood. Our Father in heaven and our Savior and all those who have passed through the resurrection have physical bodies of flesh and bones, but their bodies are quickened by spirit and not by blood, hence they are spiritual bodies and not blood bodies.”

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Happiness is Design of Our Existence

Mormon Decisions 10History of the Church 5:134, 141; “Happiness is the object and design of our existence; and will be the end thereof, if we pursue the path that leads to it; and this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God. But we cannot keep all the commandments without first knowing them, and we cannot expect to know all, or more than we now know unless we comply with or keep those we have already received. That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another.”

141 “It is not positively known what occasioned the writing of this essay; but when it is borne in mind that at this time the new law of marriage for the Church—marriage for eternity, including plurity [sic] of wives under some circumstances—was being introduced by the Prophet, it is very likely that the article was written with a view of applying the principles here expounded to the conditions created by introducing said marriage system.”

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Lying for God

Mormon Decisions 10Ensign, “Criticism”, Feb. 1987, page 68; “Truth surely exists as an absolute, but our use of truth should be disciplined by other values. … When truth is constrained by other virtues, the outcome is not falsehood but silence for a season. As the scriptures say, there is “a time to keep silence, and a time to speak.” – Dallin H. Oaks

D&C 129:7; “…it is contrary to the order of heaven for a just man to deceive…”

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Brigham’s Uncertainty

Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 16:70; “I do not know that I shall have a wife or child in the resurrection. I have never had any thoughts or reflections upon this, or cared the first thing about it. All that I have had in my mind has been that it was my duty to do the will of God, and to labor to establish his kingdom on the earth. I do not love, serve or fear the Lord for the sake of getting rid of being damned, nor for the sake of getting some great gift or blessing in eternity, but purely because the principles which God has revealed for the salvation of the inhabitants of the earth are pure, holy and exalting in their nature.” – Brigham Young, Logan, Utah, June 28, 1873

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Indwelling of the Holy Spirit

Mormon Decisions 10D&C 130:22; “A man may receive the Holy Ghost, and it may descend upon him and not tarry with him.”

Romans 8:8-9; “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”

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A Different Jesus

Mormon Decisions 10Ensign, “The Living Christ”, May 1977, pg 26; “It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshipped by the Mormons or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints… We also believe that the trinity of the Godhead is made up of three separate personages—God, the Eternal Father; Jesus Christ, the Son of God—our Savior; and the Holy Ghost. These two concepts of the Trinity and their attributes are completely different…Jesus warned man to beware of false Christs with these words: “Take heed that no man deceive you.” – Bernard P. Brockbank

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Gospel Cannot Change

Mormon Decisions 10Church News, pg 16 (June 5, 1965); “When the Lord commands us to become like Him, He really intends that we shall do so.  But since He never changes, and since human nature is always the same, identical conditions are required to bring that human nature into harmony with the unchangeable God.  “For that reason, the Gospel must always be the same in all its parts.”  To say that the Gospel may be changed is to say that either God has changed, or that human nature is no longer human nature.”  It is obvious, therefore that no one change the Gospel, and that if they attempt to do so, they only set up a man-made system which is not the Gospel, but is merely a reflection of their own views. And since only God can save, only His Gospel can save, and if se substitute “any other Gospel,” there is no salvation in it.”

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Test Mormonism

salt lake mormon temple 2Journal of Discourses 16:46; “I have had many revelations; I have seen and heard for myself, and know these things are true, and nobody on earth can disprove them…I say to the whole world, receive the truth, no matter who presents it to you. Take up the Bible, compare the religion of the Latter-day Saints with it, and see if it will stand the test.” – Brigham Young, Ogden, Utah, May 18, 1873

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BoM: Most Cunning, Wicked Imposition Ever Penned

Mormon Decisions 10Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon (Liverpool, 1851), 1-2; “This book must be either true or false. If true, it is one of the most important messages ever sent from God…. If false, it is one of the most cunning, wicked…impositions ever palmed upon the world, calculated to deceive and ruin millions.” – Orson Pratt

Jude 1:3; “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”

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Blood Atonement

Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 4:49-50; “Some have received the Priesthood and a knowledge of the things of God, and still they dishonor the cause of truth…I say, that there are men and women that I would advise to go to the President immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their case; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood. We have those amongst us that are full of all manner of abominations, those who need to have their blood shed, for water will not do, their sins are of too deep a dye.” – Jedidiah Morgan Grant, Salt Lake City, September 21, 1856

Matthew 7:1-3; “Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

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Death to Thieves

Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 1:109; “If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, May 8, 1853

Exodus 20:13; “Thou shalt not kill.”

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Overcoming the World

Mormon Decisions 10D&C 64:2; “For verily I say unto you, I will that ye should overcome the world; wherefore I will have compassion upon you.”

1 John 4:4; “Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

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Kids not Born in Mormonism are Illegitimate

Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 17:145; “Now I want to say a few words to our young people who dwell in different part of the Territory. I have heard that some of them, perhaps through a want of understanding of the laws of God, have suffered themselves to be married by the civil law—for instance, by a justice of the peace, alderman or judge. That will do very well so far as the laws of the land are concerned, but has God anything to do with such marriages? Nothing at all. Has he ever authorized marriages to be solemnized after this order? Not at all. Are children born of such marriages your legal sons and daughters in the sight of heaven? Not at all; they are in one sense bastards.” – Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, July 19, 1874

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