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April 13 – 1 Cor. 15:16, 29 “For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:  Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?”

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January 18 – In 1 Cor. 15:29 we see Paul asking the Corinthians why they were being baptized for their dead when they didn’t even believe in the resurrection.

 

 

 

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November 19 – One God, therefore, one baptism. Ephesians 4:5; “One Lord, one faith, one baptism.”

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September 5 – Romans 1:18-20; “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.”

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Meridian MagazineMeridian Magazine, ‘5 Things to Remember if Your Loved One Leaves the Church,’ July 26, 2015;

“God does not look upon sin with the least degree of allowance, but those who truly desire eternal life, in this life or in the next, will have it. Whether they are Buddhist, Baptist, Bahai, Jewish, Roman Catholic, Agnostic, Muslim, Mormon or formerly Mormon — if they desire eternal life, they will have the opportunity to get it.” – Andy Proctor 

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January 8 – In Luke16:19-31 we find Jesus telling the Pharisees the parable of Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham.

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Mormon Lifestyles1We’re getting closer to our goal of having everything easily accessible to our readers! We want to thank everyone for hangin’ with us in our mass clean up!

Today we’ve gathered articles on the Mormon lifestyle. From their daily meetings, callings to fulfill and sacrament traditions, we’ve covered many issues within Mormonism to evaluate how these things line up with the word of God.

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Why Baptize for the Dead?

Mormon Decisions 10Moroni 10:26; “And wo unto them who shall do these things away and die, for they die in their sins, and they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God; and I speak it according to the words of Christ; and I lie not.”

1 Cor. 15:29; “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?”

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Necromancy 101

Mormon Decisions 10Liahona and Ensign, November 2012; “The keys Elijah restored to Joseph Smith permit our hearts to be bound and each of us linked to those of our ancestors who are waiting for our help. Through our efforts in holy temples here on earth using the authority delegated by the Savior, our progenitors receive the saving ordinances that allow them to enjoy eternal happiness.” —Richard G. Scott, “The Joy of Redeeming the Dead”

Deuteronomy 18:10-11; “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.”

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Episode 5: Mormon Temple Baptisms for the dead

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Secret Societies

Evidences & Reconciliations, pg 282; “The Church ever operates in full light. There is no secrecy about its doctrine, aim, or work. It is open to all men who will conform to its requirements. Access to the temples, where the most sacred ordinances are performed, may be had by every member of the Church who lives the honorable life expected of faithful Latter-day Saints.”

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Baptisms for the Dead Necessary for Salvation

Gospel Doctrine, pg 469; “Through our efforts in their behalf their chains of bondage will fall from them, and the darkness surrounding them will clear away, that light may shine upon them and they shall hear in the spirit world of the work that has been done for them by their children here, and will rejoice with you in your performance of these duties.—Oct. C. R., 1916, p. 6.” – Joseph F. Smith

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Baptism for the Dead and being Born Again

I often wonder what Mormons think of the passage of scripture in John when Nicodemus asked Jesus what he must do to be born again.  While we’ve explored this issue in our Mormon Dilemmas section before, today I began wondering about another angle to this scenario.

If Jesus told Nicodemus he had to be born again then how are dead people born again?

John 3:3; “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

The Mormon Church teaches that they can’t be saved without their dead and the dead can’t be saved without members doing works for them in the temple.

D&C 128:18; “…baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect.”

So how can a dead person be born again?  Remember, we’re not talking about being spiritually dead, but a literal dead person.

The Mormons I’ve spoken with have told me the person who is dead has the choice of accepting or rejecting that which was done for them in the temple.  But this doesn’t answer the question so it’s something I’d keep asking them about.

I also wonder how they feel about Moroni 10:26 and 2 Nephi 9:38 in light of the Doctrine and Covenants passage listed above.

Moroni 10:26; “And wo unto them who shall do these things away and die, for they die in their sins, and they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God; and I speak it according to the words of Christ; and I lie not.”

2 Nephi 9:38; And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”

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Posthumous Baptisms for Murderers

Peggy Fletcher Stack, Salt Lake Tribune, June 3, 2009; “Prominent fundamentalist Mormons, most of whom were excommunicated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for practicing polygamy while they were alive, have been posthumously re-baptized in LDS temples, a Salt Lake City researcher says.

Helen Radkey said in a new report that she obtained church records on 20 fundamentalists — from murderer Ervil LeBaron to Joseph Musser to Rulon Jeffs — showing that they’ve been baptized and have had their plural marriages “sealed” for time and eternity by proxy LDS members, one as recently as this year.

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Mormon Dilemma 47

This time we’re looking at the contradiction between:

D&C 124:29-30; For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead—For this ordinance belongeth to my house, and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me.

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2 Nephi 9:38; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.

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1 Cor. 15:29; Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

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August 12 – Matthew 22:36-38; ‘Master, which is the great commandment in the law?  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.  This is the first and great commandment.’

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Osama bin Laden and Baptisms for the Dead

So here at the ministry we were wondering how long it’s going to take for the Mormon Church to posthumously baptize Osama bin Laden and who would take on the task of being baptized for the dead to ensure his salvation.

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April 18 – Heb. 9:27; “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”.

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April 13 – 1 Cor. 15:16, 29; “For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:  Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?”

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March 18 – Luke 11:33 says; “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light”.

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 Word study!  The Mormon Church has their temples to utter secret oaths to their god.  They will tell you they are sacred not secret, but they won’t tell you what those oaths are.  That’s what makes them secret!

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1 Nephi 20:16 even says that their god doesn’t speak in secret.  “Come ye near unto me; I have not spoken in secret; from the beginning, from the time that it was declared have I spoken; and the Lord God, and his Spirit hath sent me”.

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