Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged baptism for the dead, false doctrines, Gospel Doctrine pg 469 vs Acts 4:12, Mormonism the only true church on face of earth, necromancy, salvation through grace, salvation through works on 02/17/2012| 2 Comments »
Baptisms for the Dead Necessary for Salvation
Gospel Doctrine, p. 469 “Through our efforts in their behalf their chains of bondage will fall from them, and the darkness surrounding them will clear away, that light may shine upon them and they shall hear in the spirit world of the work that has been done for them by their children here, and will rejoice with you in your performance of these duties.—Oct. C. R., 1916, p. 6.” – Joseph F. Smith
Posted in Thought of the Day about Mormonism, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, false doctrine, false prophecies, mormonism, Mormons are saviors for dead people, necromancy on 12/16/2011| Leave a Comment »
Baptism for the Dead and being Born Again
I often wonder what Mormons think of the passage of scripture in John when Nicodemus asked Jesus what he must do to be born again. While we’ve explored this issue in our Mormon Dilemmas section before, today I began wondering about another angle to this scenario.
If Jesus told Nicodemus he had to be born again then how are dead people born again?
John 3:3; “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
The Mormon Church teaches that they can’t be saved without their dead and the dead can’t be saved without members doing works for them in the temple.
D&C 128:18; “…baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect.”
So how can a dead person be born again? Remember, we’re not talking about being spiritually dead, but a literal dead person.
The Mormons I’ve spoken with have told me the person who is dead has the choice of accepting or rejecting that which was done for them in the temple. But this doesn’t answer the question so it’s something I’d keep asking them about.
I also wonder how they feel about Moroni 10:26 and 2 Nephi 9:38 in light of the Doctrine and Covenants passage listed above.
Moroni 10:26; “And wo unto them who shall do these things away and die, for they die in their sins, and they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God; and I speak it according to the words of Christ; and I lie not.”
2 Nephi 9:38; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged baptism for the dead, baptizing murderers posthumously, bible, false doctrines, Jesus, mormonism, salvation, secret ceremonies on 11/17/2011| 1 Comment »
Posthumous Baptisms for Murderers
Peggy Fletcher Stack, Salt Lake Tribune, June 3, 2009; “Prominent fundamentalist Mormons, most of whom were excommunicated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for practicing polygamy while they were alive, have been posthumously re-baptized in LDS temples, a Salt Lake City researcher says.
Helen Radkey said in a new report that she obtained church records on 20 fundamentalists — from murderer Ervil LeBaron to Joseph Musser to Rulon Jeffs — showing that they’ve been baptized and have had their plural marriages “sealed” for time and eternity by proxy LDS members, one as recently as this year.
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, Corinthians, Doctrine and Covenants, false doctrine, false gospel, false prophet, Jesus, joseph smith, Mormon dilemma, mormonism, resurrection, salvation on 08/17/2011| 3 Comments »
Mormon Dilemma 47
This time we’re looking at the contradiction between:
D&C 124:29-30; “For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead—For this ordinance belongeth to my house, and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me.”
and
2 Nephi 9:38; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”
Along with:
1 Cor. 15:29; “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”
Posted in August, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, false doctrine, false gospel, false prophets, Greatest commandment, Jesus, Mormon temples, mormonism, necromancy, salvation on 08/11/2011| 1 Comment »
August 12 – Matthew 22:36-38; ‘Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.’
Posted in Thought of the Day about Mormonism, tagged 1st Corinthians 15:39, another testament, baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, false gospel, mormonism, Osama bin Laden, salvation on 05/09/2011| Leave a Comment »
Osama bin Laden and Baptisms for the Dead
So here at the ministry we were wondering how long it’s going to take for the Mormon Church to posthumously baptize Osama bin Laden and who would take on the task of being baptized for the dead to ensure his salvation.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, crucifixion, grace, Jesus, Jesus' atonement, mormonism, Redeemer, truth, Works for salvation, works vs. grace on 04/18/2011| Leave a Comment »
April 18 – Heb. 9:27; “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”.
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged baptism for the dead, Christ, Corinthians, Jesus, Mormon temples, Moronism, resurrection, salvation, Savior on 04/13/2011| Leave a Comment »
April 13 – 1 Cor. 15:16, 29; “For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?”
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, false gods, false gospel, freedom, godhood, gospel, Jesus, joseph smith, Lamanites, lds church, Mormon temple oaths, mormonism, necromancy, Nephites, sacred temple oaths, salvation, satanic symbols on Mormon temples, secret oaths, secrets, temple oaths, truth on 03/18/2011| Leave a Comment »
March 18 – Luke 11:33 says; “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light”.
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Word study! The Mormon Church has their temples to utter secret oaths to their god. They will tell you they are sacred not secret, but they won’t tell you what those oaths are. That’s what makes them secret!
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1 Nephi 20:16 even says that their god doesn’t speak in secret. “Come ye near unto me; I have not spoken in secret; from the beginning, from the time that it was declared have I spoken; and the Lord God, and his Spirit hath sent me”.
Posted in Lifestyles of the Mormon, tagged Aaronic Priesthood, baptism for the dead, bible, false gospel, freedom, grace, Jesus, lds church, marriage by proxy, Melchezidek Priesthood, Mormon lifestyle, mormonism, Mututal in Action, peace, Priesthood Meetings, Primary, Relief Society, temple endowments, truth, Works for salvation, works vs. grace on 01/24/2011| Leave a Comment »
Mormon Lifestyles & Daily Routines
The Mormon life is beset with many activities they see as necessary in their ultimate goal towards salvation. Now while we can all be guilty of over scheduling our lives at times, we are assured by the Lord that we are never responsible for our own salvation – Ephesians 2:8-9 says; “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Good works are always a manifestation of our salvation; they never serve as a result of salvation. They are faith in action; never because we must earn our own place beside Him. Unfortunately for the Mormon this is not what they’ve been taught to believe.
Posted in Interesting Facts of the 3-in-1, Uncategorized, tagged Alpha, apostasy, baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, Christianity, Doctrine and Covenants, false gospel, false prophecy, Jesus, Jesus is God, joseph smith, Omega, Pearl of Great Price, salvation, Triple Combination, truth on 01/12/2011| Leave a Comment »
Interesting Facts of the 3 – in – 1 Part 4
Alpha and Omega – Jesus is God
One of the biggest shocks for me when I left the Church was finding out that Jesus is God. I felt very small for a really long time afterwards, wondering how I had never known this big piece of theological information.
Fifteen years later I’ve come to know how easy enough it is for all of us to become “immune” to the true meaning of every day vocabulary. However, when you’re LDS this is compounded by not knowing that dictionaries can also be used for help when reading our Bibles to find out things like Jesus is God.
Recently while doing research for another article I found that the use of Alpha and Omega was used so frequently in the D&C it’d be a good idea to stop and think about the meaning of this phrase. Here is how the Holman Bible Dictionary describes Alpha and Omega;
“ALPHA – ALPHA AND OMEGA are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used in Revelation to describe God or Christ (Rev. 1:8, 17; 21:6; 22:13.) “Alpha and omega” refers to God’s sovereignty and eternal nature. God and Christ are “the beginning and the end, the first and last.” (Rev. 22:13). Thus they control all history and all humans of all generations.”
“OMEGA (oh mee’ guh) Last letter in the Greek alphabet. Together with the first letter, alpha, omega designates God and Christ as the all-encompassing Reality (Rev. 1:8; 21:6; 22:13).”
The idea that God and Christ control everything is simply mind boggling to me! This God that we worship has created everything, yet knows me intimately and loves me too…there are no words to describe the comfort this brings. Our prayer for the Mormon people is for them to know the inexpressible peace this God can bring to them as well. I just can’t imagine Smith proclaiming this joy to the people when we read his works. So the questions are as follows:
Is Jesus God or not?
If He isn’t then why do several verses in D&C say that He is?
Was Joseph mistaken or was he purposefully trying to confuse members of the Church?
If God hates liars why would He allow only part of His word to be truth?
The following list gives 22 examples of how the Mormon Church lies. D&C 130:22 alone contradicts the examples below and does not support that Jesus is God. There were verses in my little study I didn’t include on this list and I’m sure there are still others I’ve accidentally missed.
D&C 10:70; “And now, remember the words of him who is the life and light of the world, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Amen.”
D&C 17:9; “And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it unto you, that I might bring about my righteous purposes unto the children of men. Amen.”
D&C 18:31; “And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it.”
D&C 19:1; “I am Alpha and Omega, Christ the Lord; yea, even I am he, the beginning and the end, the Redeemer of the world.”
D&C 20:28; “Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.”
D&C 27:1; “Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Lord, your God, and your Redeemer, whose word is quick and powerful.”
D&C 29:1; “Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Redeemer, the Great I AM, whose arm of mercy hath atoned for your sins.”
D&C 34:1; “My son Orson, hearken and hear and behold what I, the Lord God, shall say unto you, even Jesus Christ your Redeemer.”
D&C 35:1-2; “Listen to the voice of the Lord your God, even Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, whose course is one eternal round, the same today as yesterday, and forever.2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world…”
D&C 36:1, 8; “Thus saith the Lord God, the Mighty One of Israel: Behold, I say unto you, my servant Edward, that you are blessed, and your sins are forgiven you, and you are called to preach my gospel as with the voice of a trump. 8 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God; wherefore, gird up your loins and I will suddenly come to my temple. Even so. Amen.
D&C 38:1; “Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great I AM, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made.”
D&C 39:1; “Hearken and listen to the voice of him who is from all eternity to all eternity, the Great I AM, even Jesus Christ—”
D&C 51:1, 20; “Hearken unto me, saith the Lord your God, and I will speak unto my servant Edward Partridge… 20 Verily, I say unto you, I am Jesus Christ, who cometh quickly, in an hour you think not. Even so. Amen.”
D&C 53:1-2; “Behold, I say unto you, my servant Sidney Gilbert, that I have heard your prayers; and you have called upon me that it should be made known unto you, of the Lord your God, concerning your calling and election in the church, which I, the Lord, have raised up in these last days. 2 Behold, I, the Lord, who was crucified for the sins of the world…”
D&C 62:1; “Behold, and hearken, O ye elders of my church, saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, your advocate, who knoweth the weakness of man and how to succor them who are tempted.”
D&C 63:59-60; “Behold, I am from above, and my power lieth beneath. I am over all, and in all, and through all, and search all things, and the day cometh that all things shall be subject unto me.60 Behold, I am Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ.”
D&C 66:13; “Verily, thus saith the Lord your God, your Redeemer, even Jesus Christ. Amen.”
D&C 76:1; “Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, and rejoice ye inhabitants thereof, for the Lord is God, and beside him there is no Savior.”
D&C 81:7; “Behold, and lo, these are the words of Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ. Amen.”
D&C 130:22; “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.”
Gal. 6:7; “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
Dead People Repent
The following is interesting.
D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God, 59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.”
How can dead people repent?
How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?
What about Jesus?
Didn’t the vicarious service of baptism for the dead settle their account?
Gnashing of Teeth
Alma 14:21; “And many such things did they say unto them, gnashing their teeth upon them, and spitting upon them, and saying: How shall we look when we are damned?”
Questions:
How exactly does one go about gnashing teeth upon someone?
Does this sound inspired of God?
Strange Acts of God
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit into the adopted children of God has to be one of the best miracles God has ever performed. I sit in awe each time I dwell upon His love for me and for the way He is ever faithful. Nothing about His works has ever been to demean or abuse us. And knowing He is always there to provide for me will always be a comfort to me. I wouldn’t pretend to know what lies ahead for me personally in this life, but I know I will always be humbled and safe. That is why I find it offensive when I discovered this verse in the Doctrine and Covenants.
D&C 95:4; “For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh.”
John 14:16-18; “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
No Polygamy!
Ugh, this is one of my most dreaded subjects that we deal with concerning Mormonism. The demoralization of this vulgar practice knows no bounds. Those who are caught in its snares are affected in one way or another for life; men, women and children alike. The warnings from Moses down to Paul weren’t meant solely for their day, but for ours as well. It makes me think that maybe God knew what He was talking about!
D&C 42:22, 26; “Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else. But if he doeth it again, he shall not be forgiven, but shall be cast out.”
Deut. 17:17; “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.”
8 Months Later…Another Prophecy on Polygamy and Temptation
D&C 66:10-11; “Seek not to be cumbered. Forsake all unrighteousness. Commit not adultery—a temptation with which thou hast been troubled. 11 Keep these sayings, for they are true and faithful; and thou shalt magnify thine office, and push many people to Zion with songs of everlasting joy upon their heads.”
Ex. 20:14; “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
Save Yourselves
Just about everyone I’ve met tells me the same thing; “If the Mormon really believes all this then why are they so nice?”
I do admit on the outside they do seem amiable enough, but being friendly doesn’t get you into heaven any faster than saving yourself can. And this is what breaks my heart for the Mormon people. They are nice, but they also believe they are their own Saviors. Try as I might I cannot convince my mother that being a doormat for the Relief Society doesn’t gain her Brownie points with God. Yet this is the only message the Mormons ever preach.
D&C 38:40-42; “And again, I say unto you, I give unto you a commandment, that every man, both elder, priest, teacher, and also member, go to with his might, with the labor of his hands, to prepare and accomplish the things which I have commanded. 41 And let your preaching be the warning voice, every man to his neighbor, in mildness and in meekness. 42 And go ye out from among the wicked. Save yourselves. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord. Even so. Amen.”
Gal. 2:16-17; “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.”
Odd Reactions
Whenever I see things like this I have to wonder…
Is this really inspired?
The Holman Bible dictionary says this about the inspiration of scripture; “As indicated in the biblical explanation, inspiration is a divine-human encounter whereby God reveals truth. It is a message from God and of God, as well as through persons and for persons.” From this understanding we can therefore ask ourselves if it is an inspired work of God.
Is the “scripture” below a message from God and of God?
Is it for people like you, me or even my mother?
How is this “scripture” beneficial for your spiritual growth?
Alma 14:8-11; “And they brought their wives and children together, and whosoever believed or had been taught to believe in the word of God they caused that they should be cast into the fire; and they also brought forth their records which contained the holy scriptures, and cast them into the fire also, that they might be burned and destroyed by fire. 9 And it came to pass that they took Alma and Amulek, and carried them forth to the place of martyrdom, that they might witness the destruction of those who were consumed by fire. 10 And when Amulek saw the pains of the women and children who were consuming in the fire, he also was pained; and he said unto Alma: How can we witness this awful scene? Therefore let us stretch forth our hands, and exercise the power of God which is in us, and save them from the flames. 11 But Alma said unto him: The Spirit constraineth me that I must not stretch forth mine hand; for behold the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; and he doth suffer that they may do this thing, or that the people may do this thing unto them, according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day.”
Questions:
If these holy men had the opportunity to save righteous people from the fire why didn’t they do it?
How was watching these people burn so that others would go to hell be the proper thing to do?
From a Christian who wrote in asking the following question and providing the verses below:
“Would you say there is a correlation here?”
3 Nephi 17:23-24; “And he spake unto the multitude, and said unto them: Behold your little ones. 24 And as they looked to behold they cast their eyes towards heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven as it were in the midst of fire; and they came down and encircled those little ones about, and they were encircled about with fire; and the angels did minister unto them.”
Lev. 18:21; “And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.”
As always we are praying the LDS will stop for just a moment and contemplate a few of these scenarios. I personally know what it means to be overwhelmed with it all, but when that scenario was taking place for me fifteen years ago, the one thing I knew I had to do was listen to Jesus’ voice more above my family’s heritage.
With Love in Christ;
Michelle Grim
1 Cor. 1:18
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Apostle Paul, baptism, baptism for the dead, bible, Corinth, Corinthians, Doctrine and Covenants, false gospel, joseph smith, mormonism, mormons, truth for Christians on 11/19/2010| Leave a Comment »
November 19 – Ephesians 4:5; “One Lord, one faith, one baptism.”
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The scripture above is just one example of how many times we need to be baptized. Paul actually admonishes the new believers in Corinth to stop practicing the pagan ritual of baptisms for the dead in his first epistle to them. (1 Corinthians 15:29) They were confused about this ordinance of when and whom should be baptized so they were baptizing everyone, dead or alive.
Strangely enough, they didn’t believe in the resurrection and that is where Paul comes in with his admonition and question. Why are you being baptized for dead people when you don’t believe they’ll rise from the dead anyway? Remember, the theme in 1 Corinthians chapter fifteen is Paul giving a dissertation for the defense of Jesus’ resurrection.
Jesus gave us two ordinances to observe; baptism and partaking in communion. In obedience you are doing what he says to do – be baptized. You are publicly being set apart and declaring you are a follower of Jesus.
Being dunked down into the water symbolizes you are dead to sin. Being raised out of the water symbolizes your new life in Christ.
It also serves as a sign for people that after you die and are buried, you will be resurrected to live eternally in the presence of God.
According to the Mormon Church though, Jesus’ teachings are never enough – there always has to be something else to sooth the mind of its founder Joseph Smith and to keep the adherents too busy to study out the truth for themselves.
Number of people we can save? Zero.
Only Jesus can save someone and you spending extra time in a baptismal font serves no purpose other than making your skin wrinkly and keeping your focus off of the true Redeemer.
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Doctrine and Covenants 128:18; “…It is sufficient to know, in this case, that the earth will be smitten with a curse unless there is a welding link of some kind or other between the fathers and the children, upon some subject or other—and behold what is that subject? It is the baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect. Neither can they nor we be made perfect without those who have died in the gospel also; for it is necessary in the ushering in of the dispensation of the fulness of times…”
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Apostle Paul, baptism for the dead, bible, Book of Mormon, Corinthains, Doctrine and Covenants, false gospel, false prophet, false teacher, joseph smith, Nephi on 11/18/2010| Leave a Comment »
November 18 – Hebrews 9:27; “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.”
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So we die and then we’re judged. No where in this passage or in others does it say that people will be presenting the gospel to us and getting baptized by proxy for us after we die. In the reference for today even the LDS scriptures agree, but as you’ll see in tomorrow’s witnessing tip, they won’t. Also note that this supposedly took place in 74 BC.
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Alma 34:35; “For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked.”
Posted in Mentoring Handbook, tagged baptism, baptism for salvation, baptism for the dead, baptism into Jesus, Christ, Christian, Christianity, Jeus, lds church on 10/22/2010| Leave a Comment »
GETTING BAPTIZED…AGAIN!
By the time I left Utah and stopped getting baptized for dead people I was sure I could have webbed feet. I don’t recall how many times I went to the temple (more than five times, less than twenty) I do know it seemed like a lot! For me, Saturday mornings as a young teen meant a drive with the bishop to downtown Ogden to do works for the dead.
Not long after I was saved the Lord made it apparent to me that I needed to be baptized…again, yet it was for the first time! I remember waking my poor husband up in the middle of the night after the Lord had impressed it upon my soul that He wanted me to do this. Kirk said; “that’s nice dear” and quickly went back to sleep as I sat up the rest of the night talking to my Lord. It was one of the sweetest times I’ve ever had with God.
It is in obedience that we are baptized and not because we “have to”, but because we desire to please our Lord and God. It is an honor to follow Him and make that public proclamation of our devotion to Jesus. Even today I still can’t believe He got me of all people, out of Utah!
Jesus is always our example whenever there is any doubt or confusion about what we should do in matters such as these. We want to emphasize that baptism is not necessary for salvation and we can use the thief on the cross as one of the proofs, as well as Eph. 2:8-9. However, when we make Jesus our Lord and not merely our Savior, then we will heed the promptings of the Holy Spirit. He will never contradict what the word says, so we can use this as our measure of truth.
At the beginning of Jesus’ ministry Matthew gives us the account of when Jesus went to the Jordan to be an example of righteousness fulfilled. Matthew 3:13-7 says;
“Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
Getting baptized unto the Lord also serves as another way of denouncing the evil one! Just as when we consider renewing our wedding vows and our public confession of believing Jesus, being baptized helps the ex-Mormon to spiritually make that break. The Mormon Church maintains that “true believers” have to be baptized and then have the “laying on of hands to receive the Holy Ghost”. Make it clear to the ex-Mormon this is not the case by showing them the thief on the cross and also how being baptized for dead people is not scriptural.
Explain in full what 1 Cor. 15:29 really means and also take another look at how Luke 16:19-31 tells us that there is no chance of being able to do things like this either from the grave or for those already in the grave. The Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 92 says;
“The fourth article of faith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints declares that “baptism by immersion for the remission of sins” is one of the “first principles and ordinances of the Gospel.”…It is a primary step in the process, which includes faith, repentance, baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end, whereby members may receive remission of their sins and gain access to the Celestial Kingdom and eternal life… Baptism must be performed by one who has proper priesthood authority.”
To this I say; work, work, work, work, work…
© 2010 Life After Ministries, Inc.
Link for Chapter 17:
17. Bearing Your Testimony
http://lifeafterministry.com/2010/10/22/mentoring-handbook-chapter-17/
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A look at the 3 gods of the Mormon godhead. Their godhead is nothing like that of the Christian Trinity - find out why!
Ishtar, an Assyrian and Babylonian Goddess known as the Queen of Heaven
Robert LeRoy Parker, aka "Butch Cassidy"
Moses 5:13; "And Satan came among them, saying, I am also a son of God..."
Ten questions about so-called apostacy
Witnessing tracts & handouts for missions and classes at your church
Why do Mormons attack the body of Christ if they're Christians?
How to Witness to a Mormon/Help for your Mormon friends & loved ones
Church leaders have said that without the vision of Joseph Smith, they'd have nothing so let's take a look at some of the things of Joseph
We know Jesus died for our sins, but what did Joseph die for?
Should we trust someone who's involved with these things?
Why would you place your salvation into the hands of a false prophet?
There are several versions of Smith's first vision; which one do you believe?
An examination of Joseph Smith's death
Kinderhook Plates and The Greek Psalter Incident serve as further proof Smith was a false prophet
Who was the real Joseph Smith?
LDS OT Sunday School Lessons
Mormon lives are busier than most. With meetings, temple attendance, food storage, the strive to be perfect - it's overwhelming and far from having peace in knowing Christ. Find out why!
The LDS Church doesn't ascribe to the orthodox belief in original sin; why is that?
Compare LDS doctrine w/ the Bible
Mormonism's True Agenda; Saving Souls or Ruling America?
Mormons are faced with confusing doctrine every time they open their scriptures.
Quotes & false prophecies from Mormon leaders
Why does Mormonism mimic so many religions? Astrology, witchcraft, Satanism, Masonry, Universalism, Hinduism...it's all there in one package called Mormonism. Why?
Jesus said; "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." - John 8:32
Moroni, Comoro off the coast of East Africa
Galatians 1:6-9 says not to accept another gospel from an angel of light, yet atop every LDS temple there sits an angel of light proclaiming a new gospel...
Why is talking to dead people condoned in Mormonism?
An examination of the LDS' latest teachings from the presidency to the women's groups. Find out why their monthly messages aren't biblical!
Why are there so many rules to obey for salvation if Mormonism is a Christian church?
Could this book cost you salvation in Jesus?
Why Doesn't the Church Practice Polygamy Today?
Ordained of God?
Find out what Mormon Church leaders really think of polygamy
All the rules of how to pray and what to say leaves no room for a conversation with the Lord!
"Prophet" John Taylor in prison for polygamy
Does a true prophet of God preach racism?
1978 Prophecy, Book of Moses, Curse of Cain, 2 Nephi 30:6, All are Alike Unto God...What is the truth?
Are comments like "blacks are slaves mentally" really from the God of the Bible or racist men?
Romans Road to Salvation
Mormon Salvation vs. Biblical Salvation. Find out why they're not the same!
Know the Difference between Christianity and pseudo-Christianity!
True Mormon salvation = godhood with multiple wives and countless spirit babies
A commandment from God or necromancy?
Sacred or secret?
How does swearing secret oaths glorify God?
The biblical temple and Mormon temples have virtually nothing in common; find out why
Mormon vocabulary is vastly different from the norm. If you're a Christian & feel you're speaking a different language, learn about the differences here.
How you can know and trust what God has to say in His word
A Collection of News Items and Prophetic Utterances from and about Mormonism
Mormonism & Christianity are not compatible - find out why.
"...for I know whom I have believed..." 2 Tim. 1:12
Would a true apostle say this? Heber C. Kimball; "I think no more of taking another wife than I do of buying a cow."
The Mormon pioneers trekking across America is re-enacted every year by faithful Mormons to honor the faith of their ancestors
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