September 4 – Where’s the Apostasy? Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
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Where’s the Apostasy?
Posted in September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 Nephi 28, 3 Nephites never die, apostasy, false gospel, false prophecy on 09/04/2023| 1 Comment »
The Company You Keep
Posted in August, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged apostasy, Doubting Mormonism, false apostle, The Neal A. Maxwell Quote Book on 08/08/2022| 1 Comment »
August 8 — The Company You Keep. 1 Corinthians 15:33 “Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.”
1 John 4:1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (more…)
The Company We Keep
Posted in August, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged apostasy, Doubting Mormonism, false apostle, The Neal A. Maxwell Quote Book on 08/07/2020| Leave a Comment »
August 7 — The Company We Keep. 1 Corinthians 15:33 “Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.”
1 John 4:1 “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” (more…)
What Apostasy?
Posted in September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 Nephi 28, 3 Nephites never die, apostasy, false gospel, false prophecy on 09/04/2019| 3 Comments »
September 4 – What apostasy? Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
Tip of the Day March 17 Lies of Mormonism
Posted in March, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 apostles never die, apostasy, Book of Mormon, false teachings of Mormonism on 03/17/2019| Leave a Comment »
March 17 –Lies of Mormonism because they don’t want to follow God. 1 Corinthians 14:33 tells us that God is never a God of confusion. “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints”.
D&C 32 ~ 5 Prophecies, 5 Fails
Posted in False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, tagged . Ziba Peterson, apostasy, D&C 32:1-5 on 11/06/2018| Leave a Comment »
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Today we’re looking at part of D&C 32. The entire section contains only 5 verses, but its significance is how it contains 5 failed prophecies of Joe Smith.
For now we’re looking at v. 3. We’ve provided all 5 verses at the end of this article, along with the LDS link. (more…)
Tip of the Day, March 17
Posted in March, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 apostles never die, apostasy, Book of Mormon, false teachings of Mormonism on 03/17/2018| Leave a Comment »
March 17 –Lies of Mormonism because they don’t want to follow God. 1 Corinthians 14:33 tells us that God is never a God of confusion. “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints”.
Mormon Missionary Discussions – Part 3
Posted in Mormon Missionary Discussions, tagged apostasy, Membership in LDS Church, One True Church, Restoration on 09/29/2017| 3 Comments »
The Restoration
Once again before getting into the discussion, missionaries are to ask the investigators for a commitment to be baptized.
In the instructions missionaries read it says –
“If the investigators have not yet committed themselves to be baptized or have not yet attended Church meetings, these commitments must be among your major objectives for this discussion.”
At this point and even prior to it, investigators are expected to make a commitment to the church before they have been presented with all the information necessary to make an informed decision. This is only discussion three, there are three more lessons they must have before they are baptized, what’s the hurry? Why do they need a commitment so soon? These are just a couple of questions that have come to mind as I’ve started this series.
Witnessing Tip of the Day September 4
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 3 Nephi 28, 3 Nephites never die, apostasy, false gospel, false prophecy on 09/04/2016| Leave a Comment »
September 4 – What apostasy? Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
Mormon Dilemma 935 Adam is Jesus
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Adam is Jesus, apostasy, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Jesus god of this earth, Journal of Discourses 4:1 on 05/06/2014| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 4:1; “I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people, and He is the God that pertains to this earth-the first man. That first man sent his own Son to redeem the world, to redeem his brethren; his life was taken, his blood shed, that our sins might be remitted. That Son called twelve men and ordained them to be Apostles, and when he departed the keys of the kingdom were deposited with three of those twelve, viz.: Peter, James, and John. Peter held the keys pertaining to that Presidency, and he was the head.” – Heber Chase Kimball, Salt Lake Territory, June 29, 1856
False Prophecies of Mormonism LDS Restoration
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged apostasy, bible is false, bible is wrong, Christianity, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophet Joseph Smith, LDS Restoration on 08/01/2013| Leave a Comment »
What is the LDS Restoration Built Upon?
Answers to Gospel Questions 2:161; “No Bible student today believes that the Bible has come down to us in its perfect and original appearance in the manuscripts. Scribes left out words and phrases, just as we do at times in typing, missing one whole line and thus changing the meaning. Moreover, the scribes added or interpreted according to their own opinions at times. These things are quite generally understood. Therefore we find errors and contradictions in the Bible.”
E-mail: Why the LDS Church is True
Posted in E-mails, tagged apostasy, bible, Book of Mormon, Christianity, cults, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus, Joseph Smith false prophet, LDS Church is false, LDS Church is true on 07/12/2013| 4 Comments »
Why the LDS Church is True
(According to an e-mail I received)
While I receive many e-mails for the ministry, one that caught my attention the most came from a Mormon a while back by the name of Shane. In his 15 page defense of the Church, a common theme ran throughout which has prompted this reply. I still use this e-mail as a response to other Mormons who write in with the exact copy & paste reasons the Church is true.
This Mormon took it upon himself to copy and paste a large section from the LDS website to let us know why the Church is true.
As the Christian will see, the reasoning he employs is lacking in spiritual maturity by using their (the LDS) defense. His spiritual condition doesn’t promote ridicule on our part, but once again begs for empathy from those of us who’ve walked the same path. It saddens me he can’t or won’t stop long enough to compile his own reasons for trusting the LDS Church. Instead it’s a copy and paste world in the minds of many Mormons. The way he responded also reminds me of a common response we see with many Mormons.
For instance, when asked where the proof is that someone like Nephi existed they’ll ask what proof there is the apostles existed. Instead of answering the question with definitive answer about Nephi, they attack the Bible.
Mormon Dilemma 352
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged apostasy, bible, body of Christ, Christianity, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus, salvation on 08/21/2012| Leave a Comment »
Apostasy…not Exactly
Answers to Gospel Questions 2:45; “Moreover, the Lord, of necessity, has kept authorized servants on the earth bearing the priesthood from the days of Adam to the present time; in fact, there has never been a moment from the beginning that there were not men on the earth holding the Holy Priesthood. (Moses 5:59.) Even in the days of apostasy, and apostasy has occurred several times, the Lord never surrendered this earth and permitted Satan to have complete control. Even when the great apostasy occurred following the death of the Savior’s apostles, our Father in heaven held control and had duly authorized servants on the earth to direct his work and to check, to some extent at least, the ravages and corruption of the evil powers. These servants were not permitted to organize the Church nor to officiate in the ordinances of the gospel, but they did check the advances of evil as far as the Lord deemed it necessary.” – Joseph Fielding Smith, jr.
False Prophecy of Joseph Smith
Posted in false gospel, False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, false prophet Joseph Smith, false prophets, tagged apostasy, false doctrines of Mormonism, God tells Joseph Smith no one followed him, John the apostle never dies on 04/22/2012| Leave a Comment »
John the Apostle Never Dies
D&C 7:3; “And the Lord said unto me: Verily, verily, I say unto thee, because thou desirest this thou shalt tarry until I come in my glory, and shalt prophesy before nations, kindreds, tongues and people.”
False Teachings of the Mormon Church
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged apostasy, Christianity, false prophets, false teachings of Mormonism, Harold B. Lee, Jesus, reasons why Mormons leave the church, salvation on 02/22/2012| Leave a Comment »
Apostates
Teachings of Harold B. Lee, pg 298; “Those who apostatize from this church apostatized for one of two reasons—either because they have sinned and lost the faith, or they’re ignorant of the doctrines of the Church. I say, you think about what I have just said. If we, as the Church, expect the family can be ignorant and safe, we expect what never was and never will be”.
Mormon Dilemma 163
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged apostasy, bible, Christianity died, Jesus, Journal of Discourses 18:44 vs John 14:26, no Christians on earth, salvation on 02/13/2012| Leave a Comment »
Apostasy from the First Century to Joseph Smith
Journal of Discourses 18:44; “This great apostacy [sic] commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now. A short time after the death of the last of the Apostles, the Christian Church, what few of them remained, were persecuted from mountain to mountain, from den to den, from one cave of the earth to another, and from nation to nation until they were entirely exterminated and rooted out of the earth. Well, what was left? An apostate Christianity, a Christianity without revelators, without any voice of God, without any Prophets to unfold the future, without visions, without any communications from the heavens. Apostacy [sic] succeeded the Christian Church and has borne rule over all the nations of the earth; and these Scriptures have been fulfilled; for they say that a certain power should arise, and make war with the Saints and overcome them, and they should be given into the hands of that power.” – Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, July 11, 1875
LDS Apostles Part 1
Posted in Mormon Apostles, tagged apostasy, bible, excommunicated, false doctrines, Jesus, mormonism, salvation, Twelve Apostles on 11/30/2011| Leave a Comment »
Apostles of the LDS (Mormon) Church
On Palm Sunday of 1993 I accepted the Lord Jesus into my heart as God and Savior. From that day on my life was never the same – praise God! Not long after I was saved from an eternal life separated from God, it became increasingly clear that what I was going to do with my life was about to change as well.
Anti-Mormon vs. Anti-Mormonism
Posted in Anti-Mormon vs. Anti-Mormonism, tagged anti-Mormon, anti-Mormonism, apostasy, bible, Book of Mormon, Christianity, false gospel, Jesus, joseph smith, lds church, salvation on 01/14/2011| 1 Comment »
Anti-Mormon vs. Anti-Mormonism
When I was a Mormon a name they used for anyone who opposed the Church was “anti-Mormon”. The term anti-Mormon covers a huge spectrum to the members of the Mormon Church. There’s a mindset within the Church that if you aren’t with them you’re against them. They expect Christians to just ignore the major doctrinal differences between Mormonism and mainline Christianity. They want all of us to just accentuate the positive things about their religion, not worrying about the rest.
Granted, there are groups that do appear to be less than kind to the Mormon people and there are others who can love the Mormon people while at the same time highly disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. Many of the Mormons I have spoken with have told me that they see no difference between someone politely conversing with them using the Bible and someone screeching at them on a street corner, sign in hand telling them they’re going to hell. Both instances are perceived to be anti-Mormon, and enemies of the Church.
Through this experience I’ve come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter how you try to present the Gospel to the lost they will still find offense to it. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is offensive to those who don’t believe. Especially to the Mormons when you try to show them how the doctrines of their religion are not in line with the Bible. You may wonder as I have why the LDS think that people, who oppose the doctrines of their church, oppose them as well. In the process of reading and researching for this article I found the following quote;
“Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies”. Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign May 1980
Two years later he says it again. “Be of good cheer, for the Lord is guiding His church. Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies.” (Ensign May 1982)
These quotes bring me to the title of this article. There is a huge difference in being against the Mormon people (anti-Mormon) and being against the doctrines of the Mormon Church (anti-Mormonism).
For a Mormon to call someone an “anti-Mormon” is to call them something that is profane and vile. At least this is how the name was perceived when I was a Mormon. If a fellow church member called something or someone an anti-Mormon I knew to stay away. In Mormonism there’s an underlying persecution complex in the mindset of the Mormon. It usually kicks in not long after they are baptized into the Church when non-LDS friends and family start voicing their concerns about Mormonism.
The new member may be exposed to literature that’s not church approved and paints the Church in a bad light, or they may run across someone who is a former Mormon who tells them about their exodus out of Mormonism. It’s just easier for the Mormons to slap the anti-Mormon label on an individual’s forehead or the cover of a book rather than take a step back and consider if there are valid concerns to be had about the Church.
I know there maybe a few people in the world who are against the Mormon people for whatever reason, I’m not going to dispute that. Generally speaking, the people the Mormons are so quick to call their enemies and other names are just people who disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. They have compared and contrasted their findings about Mormonism to Biblical research. I’m not talking about pulling stuff out of the air or off any random website discussing Mormonism.
These people honestly looked at the historicity of Mormonism, its leaders, and its scripture. So if people are honestly researching, reading the materials the Mormon Church has already provided, and from there draw their own conclusion that Mormonism is a fraud, does that still make them “anti-Mormon” or does it make them “anti-Mormonism”?
I believe the problem of being quick to judge someone who opposes the Church stems from the notion the Mormons have that tells them “they are their religion”. They put on a pure, happy, clean cut image for the world. When someone speaks against their church, while bringing up historical facts about their religion it tarnishes the way they want to be seen. I think maybe when someone shows them the truth about their religion; on some level it hurts their ego. With all those thoughts bouncing around in their heads it’s no wonder the moment someone makes a less than flattering remark about the Mormon Church they go into a defensive mode and think they are being attacked.
I would love for the Mormon to understand that we aren’t against them. Sadly I know as long as they believe only their Church holds all the keys to salvation, they may never see the difference in an anti-Mormon and someone who is anti-Mormonism.
In Christ,
Melissa Grimes (melissa@lifeafter.org)
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