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Galatians 5:22-23 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

 Today we’re looking at claims the Book of Mormon makes about itself, and if you know anything about Mormonism, you probably have an opinion about it as well. Outside opinions can be helpful, but what does the book itself say about its own content?

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bom.jpgToday we’re taking a look at one specific chapter in the Book of Mormon. While glancing through this I couldn’t help but notice several significant contradictions – no surprise!

As a reminder, here’s the setting taken from the Church’s brief intro about this chapter:

“The Nephites separate themselves from the Lamanites, keep the law of Moses, and build a temple—Because of their unbelief, the Lamanites are cut off from the presence of the Lord, are cursed, and become a scourge unto the Nephites. About 588–559 B.C.”

Let’s take a look at what they’ve done!

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Galatians 5:22-23; “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

joseph smith 3Today we’re looking at claims the Book of Mormon makes about itself, and if you know anything about Mormonism, you probably have an opinion about it as well! Outside opinions can be helpful, but what does the book itself say about its own content?

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Mormon Decisions 10Jarom 1:1-2, 13-14; “Now behold, I, Jarom, write a few words according to the commandment of my father, Enos, that our genealogy may be kept. 2 And as these plates are small, and as these things are written for theBoM intent of the benefit of our brethren the Lamanites, wherefore, it must needs be that I write a little; but I shall not write the things of my prophesying, nor of my revelations. For what could I write more than my fathers have written? For have not they revealed the plan of salvation? I say unto you, Yea; and this sufficeth me. 13 And it came to pass that two hundred and thirty and eight years had passed away — after the manner of wars, and contentions, and dissensions, for the space of much of the time. 14 And I, Jarom, do not write more, for the plates are small. But behold, my brethren, ye can go to the other plates of Nephi; for behold, upon them the records of our wars are engraven, according to the writings of the kings, or those which they caused to be written.”

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Holley1Leaving Mormonism and all it entails is a process filled with surprises, shock, disappointments and relief to name a few. Just when you think you’ve heard it all and nothing else can surprise you, a new discovery in Mormon teachings or history rears its ugly head.

The article here is case in point. I’ll never forget the first time I saw maps from the era of Joseph Smith’s day.  I sat in shock as I read names of valleys and townships that were eerily similar to names I knew were in the Book of Mormon.

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Salt Lake TempleSeveral days ago one of our good friends here at LAM sent me a link to an article in the NY Times.  The story highlighted the relationship between the Navajo Indian tribe and the Mormon Church.

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salt lake mormon temple 2Journal of Discourses 7:337; “You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation… When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his Law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-an-by they will become a white and delightsome people.” – Prophet Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, October 8, 1859

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salt lake mormon temple 2Alma 17:19; “And Ammon went to the land of Ishmael, the land being called after the sons of Ishmael, who also became Lamanites.”

Psalm 18:30; “As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.”

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Racial Divisions

Mormon Decisions 101 Nephi 13:15; “And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.”

Acts 10:34-35; “Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”

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Book of Mormon Changes

Yesterday while reading some interesting news stories on BYU’s online newspaper, I came across an article they posted a few years back about changes made to the introduction in the Book of Mormon. http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/66279

 

 

 

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Racist Mormon Toys Update

Congrats!  You did it!!!  I thought I’d give an update on the Racist Mormon Toys.  Today I was informed those toys have been removed from the list of available products to purchase from Latter-Day Designs.

Thanks to all of you who took the time to e-mail the company and tell them you didn’t approve of their racist products.  It just goes to show you what we can do as a society when we stand up and speak out!  If you see other things like this that need attention don’t hesitate to let me know and we’ll do what we can.  Thanks Rebecca, Salt Lake Tribune and Indian Country Newspaper!

With Love in Christ, Michelle Grim

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Lamanites Cursed Until All Gentiles Convert

August 1889, Contributor 10:364; The remnant of the Lamanites who are cursed below all humanity that we are acquainted with—who have been filled with the spirit of bloodshed which they have inherited from their fathers—they will embrace the Gospel in the due time of the Lord. They are of the house of Israel, and this spirit of war will be taken from them and they will become the children of God, but not until the Gentiles have entirely rejected the Gospel. Anciently it was preached to the Jews first and then to the Gentiles; in the latter times it will be first preached to the Gentiles and then to the Jews—the first shall be last and the last first.

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 Book of Mormon & Dates in History

     A few years ago I took a bible study class on the book of Jeremiah.  Now I’ve been taking bible study classes non-stop since I was saved back on Palm Sunday of ’93 and I have to say that just like every other Christian I learn a lot, but there are times when the studies are more significant than others.  The study of Jeremiah did that for me.

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The Book of Questions

Helaman – BC 52-2

I’ve always thought of Helaman as the book of questions. While the entire Book of Mormon has many unanswered questions this one book has always made me wonder why my people can’t see through the lies of Joseph Smith. Today we’re looking at just a couple of things.

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Inspired of God?  Difficulties in the Book of Mormon

“All scripturei s given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” 2 Timothy 3:16.

     The key word here is inspiration.  This word in the Greek is theopneustos.  It means God breathed.  Look anywhere in the Bible, there is nothing in it that contradicts itself, there are no mistakes, and it is all one hundred percent perfect! Archaeologists will sometimes use the Bible to search for the spots they want to investigate.  There are hundreds of documents which prove the Bible to be true, from Josephus of the first century to the Dead Sea Scrolls.  Each time they find something new, it validates what the Bible says!

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March 20 – Ex. 12:9 says; “Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it”.

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God was rather clear when He told the Israelites not to eat raw meat, but in the Book of Mormon this isn’t a problem with their god.  Ask them why this would be so.

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1 Nephi 17:2;  “And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men; and they began to bear their journeyings without murmurings”.

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March 18 – Luke 11:33 says; “No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light”.

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 Word study!  The Mormon Church has their temples to utter secret oaths to their god.  They will tell you they are sacred not secret, but they won’t tell you what those oaths are.  That’s what makes them secret!

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1 Nephi 20:16 even says that their god doesn’t speak in secret.  “Come ye near unto me; I have not spoken in secret; from the beginning, from the time that it was declared have I spoken; and the Lord God, and his Spirit hath sent me”.

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March 17 – 1 Corinthians 14:33 tells us that God is never a God of confusion.  “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints”.

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The Mormon Church teaches that three of the twelve apostles never died.  If this is the case, then why do the Mormons claim the church needed to be restored?

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Introduction of 3 Nephi 28.  “Each of the twelve is granted his heart’s desire – Three elect to remain on earth until the Lord comes in his glory…They are made immune to death and disaster”.

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March 16 – Matt. 2:1; “Now Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea…”

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As of 2004, the Book of Mormon has had more than 4,000 changes made to it that are not considered typographical errors.  Even today’s writings in the Book of Mormon contain a falsehood about Jesus’ birthplace.  Ask your Mormon friend what they think about this and remind them that their personal opinion matters to you!

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Alma 7:10; “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers…”

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March 15 – Is. 40:8; “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever”.

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Word study time!  Eternal and forever are the key words for today.  Look them up in a dictionary, concordance and lexicon and then share your new found knowledge with the Mormon.  Be sure to use some of your favorite verses from the Bible that contain these words.  Don’t forget to explain why the verses you share are your favorites.  What did God reveal to you through these things?

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2 Nephi 9:16; “And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word which cannot pass away”.

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