Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, Moroni, tagged angelic visitors, bible, false gospel, joseph smith, mormonism, Moroni, necromancy, Nephi on 11/28/2022| 3 Comments »
Moroni or Nephi, Who Visited Joseph that Night?
Introductory page of D&C 1976, 3rd paragraph “This took place in the early spring of 1820. In September, 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which The Book of Mormon was afterward translated.”
Posted in Moroni, tagged angel of light, Moroni, Restoration, temples on 08/04/2019| 1 Comment »
“Behold the voice of the cry of the daughter of my people because of them that dwell in a far country: Is not the LORD in Zion? is not her king in her? Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images, and with strange vanities?” Jeremiah 8:19
Over the next week or so we’ll be taking a look at statements LDS Church leaders have made about some of the carved images plastered on walls of their temples, both inside and out.
Today we’re looking at their crown jewel, if you will, that being Moroni, their angel of light.
The reason for our look at this is because of the conflicting messages I kept coming across while researching info for something totally unrelated. The subtle inconsistencies about Moroni’s place in Mormonism soon became blatant contradictions.
While it may seem inconsequential, we believe there’s more to the story in the contradictory messages the Church puts out. And we have no doubt they do this on purpose.
So who is Moroni anyway? Was this from God, or man? As you’ll see in their publications their story is all over the board… (more…)
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light, Doctrine and Covenants, Moroni, necromancy on 02/10/2018| 2 Comments »
February 10 – Gal. 1:8; “But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed”.
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Moroni, Nephi on 02/09/2018| Leave a Comment »
February 9 – God’s Word is full of examples on how we can recognize the evil one. In 2 Cor. 11:14 Paul says; “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light”.
Posted in Moroni, tagged false teachings of the Mormon Church, joseph smith, Moroni, Nephi on 10/11/2017| Leave a Comment »
Jude 4; “For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Original drawing of the angel Moroni intended to be used over Nauvoo Temple.
By and large, members of the LDS Church today believe Moroni was the angel who showed up one night telling Joseph Smith about the golden plates buried in the earth near his home.
“He called me by name and said…that his name was Moroni…”
Today when members read Joseph Smith’s History in the Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants 128:20, the narrative tells them Moroni visited Joseph Smith. They also read the same thing in History of the Church 1:11. See image.
However…
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged angel of light, false apostle, Jeffrey Holland, Moroni on 02/25/2017| Leave a Comment »
General Conference, “An High Priest of Good Things to Come” October 1999 “Trust in God and believe in good things to come.”
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light, Galatians 1:6-9 & Intro page of Doctrine and Covenants, Moroni on 02/10/2017| 2 Comments »
February 10 – Galatians 1:8; “But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed”.
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged 2 Nephi 9:9 vs. 2 Cor. 11:14, angel of light, Book of Mormon, false doctrine, Moroni on 02/09/2017| Leave a Comment »
February 9 – Moroni, an angel of light. God’s Word is full of examples on how we can recognize the evil one. In 2 Cor. 11:14 Paul says; “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light”.
Posted in Moroni, tagged BoM, Jewish feasts and festivals, Moroni, necromancy, Nephi on 09/27/2016| 1 Comment »
Why Did Moroni Deliver the Gold Plates on September 22?
By Book of Mormon Central | Sep. 22, 2016 Mormon Life
“…Moroni’s annual visits occurred generally around the time of the Israelite harvest festival season. The initial visit on September 21 in 1823 coincided with that year’s celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles. In 1824, September 22 was the eve of the Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashanah) and the beginning of the fall festivals.”
Posted in Book of Mormon, tagged 385 AD, Book of Mormon, false doctrines of Mormonism, false gospel, Mormon, Moroni, Nephites on 01/26/2016| Leave a Comment »
Today we’re looking at a rather complicated, not to mention messy, timing problem in the ‘most correct book on the face of the earth, otherwise known as the Book of Mormon…According to LDS.org, the Nephite nation was killed off by the Lamanites circa 385 AD.Mormon Chapter 6; “The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.”
Keep in mind, this also included Moroni’s dad, Mormon.
Apparently Moroni finished writing his dad’s excerpt for the Book of Mormon c. 401 AD. By this time his dad had already been dead for 15 years.
Mormon 8:3; “And my father also was killed by them, and I even remain alone to write the sad tale of the destruction of my people…” – 401-421 AD
Fast forward a chapter or so to Moroni 8:1 (c. 401-421 AD), and we find Moroni stating he received a letter from his dad, Mormon, shortly after he (Moroni) went into ministry.
Remember, this was fifteen years after his father supposedly died.
“An epistle of my father Mormon, written to me, Moroni; and it was written unto me soon after my calling to the ministry. And on this wise did he write unto me, saying…”
How did this happen?
Complicating matters further, we see another timing problem for Moroni and his dad. The following is still more of that letter where his dad is telling him (Moroni) the Nephites’ pride is what eventually killed them off.
Moroni 8:27; “Behold, my son, I will write unto you again if I go not out soon against the Lamanites. Behold, the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proven their destruction except they should repent.” About A.D. 401–421.
Again, how did this happen?
How could he talk if he was dead?
How would he know these things if he was already dead?
Why would he talk about the pride of the Nephite nation if they were already dead?
And last, but not least, notice three key phrases Mormon focused on in vss. 28-29 –
Moroni 8:28-29; “Pray for them, my son, that repentance may comeunto them. But behold, I fear lest the Spirit hath ceased striving with them; and in this part of the land they are also seeking to put down all power and authority which cometh from God; and they are denying the Holy Ghost. 29 And after rejecting so great a knowledge, my son, they must perish soon, unto the fulfilling of the prophecies which were spoken by the prophets, as well as the words of our Savior himself.” – c. 421 AD
The Nephites had been dead for 36 years so why would they need prayer for them to repent (v. 28)?
If they’d already been dead, why did Mormon state they must perish soon in v. 29?
Posted in Moroni, tagged angel of light, Book of Mormon, demons, false gods of Mormonism, graven images, Moroni on 11/12/2015| 4 Comments »
While gathering info for a new article earlier this week, I came across an interesting story in Mormondom.
In 2009, the Deseret News published an article ‘20 little-known facts about the Mormon Angel Moroni statue’. They showed a different Moroni statue with each fact they shared, and one in particular caught my immediate attention.
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, dead people visit Mormons, false doctrines of Mormonism, Moroni, necromancy in Mormonism, Wilford Woodruff on 08/06/2015| Leave a Comment »
Necromancy and the LDS Church.
Today we’re looking at what the Lord says about this, and the LDS practice of talking to dead people. They seem to have an affinity for this behavior and unfortunately, it didn’t stop with Joseph Smith.
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Apostle Paul, Book of Mormon plagiarism, false gospel Jared 12, Moroni on 07/14/2015| Leave a Comment »
Ether 12:12, 27; “For if there be no faith among the children of men God can do no miracle among them; wherefore, he showed not himself until after their faith. 27 And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.”
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged angel flying through heaven, Bruce McConkie, false prophecy, joseph smith, Mormon doctrine, Moroni on 06/24/2015| Leave a Comment »
Mormon Doctrine, p. 514; “To Moroni the Lord gave the privilege and power to bring to light the Book of Mormon. Following his mortal Nephite ministry,
he died and went to the paradise of God. (Moro. 10:34.) Then in modern times, as a resurrected being, because he held “the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim” (D. & C. 27:5), he came to the Prophet and revealed the Book of Mormon. This coming was in partial fulfilment of John’s vision of another angel flying in the midst of heaven to commit the everlasting gospel to man. (Rev. 14: 6-7; D. & C. 133:36-40.)
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Alma, angel of light, another gospel, bible, Book of Mormon, false apostle, false doctrine, false prophet, false teacher, gospel, grace, Jesus, joseph smith, lds church, lies, mormonism, Moroni, Redeemer, salvation, Savior, truth on 03/08/2015| Leave a Comment »
March 8 – Matthew 11:21-2; “Woe unto thee, Chorazin! Woe unto thee, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes”.
Posted in February, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged angel of light, bible, Jesus, Matthew 26:34 & Joseph Smith Testimony 2:47, Moroni, Moroni appears 3 times to Joseph Smith before the cock crowed, Peter's denial of Jesus on 02/11/2015| Leave a Comment »
February 11 – Peter’s denial of Jesus. Matthew 26:34 says; “Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice”.
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, cave, false prophet Joseph Smith, golden plates, Hill Cumorah, Journal of Discourses 19:39-40, Masonic Lodge, Moroni on 08/11/2014| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 19:39-40; “This is an incident in the life of Oliver Cowdery…Oliver Cowdery went with the Prophet Joseph when he deposited these plates. Joseph did not translate all of the plates; there was a portion of them sealed, which you can learn from the Book of Doctrine and Covenants. When Joseph got the plates, the angel instructed him to carry them back to the hill Cumorah, which he did.
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged bible, Book of Mormon people, Central America, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus, Joseph Smith's Testimony 1:34, Moroni, North America, South American on 11/17/2013| Leave a Comment »
North, Central or South America?
Joseph Smith Testimony 1:34; “He said there was a book deposited, written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang. He also said that the fulness of the everlasting Gospel was contained in it, as delivered by the Savior to the ancient inhabitants.”
Posted in First Vision of Joseph Smith, tagged angels appear to Joseph Smith, evil angels, false prophet Joseph Smith, Joseph Smith's First Vision, Moroni, praying in a grove of trees, Spanish angel with cut throat on 08/07/2013| Leave a Comment »
One of my first memories in life was sitting in my ward building learning for the first time Joseph Smith was tarred and feathered in 1832 just because he told people about the vision he had. The horror I felt in my body was something I can still feel just as I did 50+ years ago.
What I wasn’t taught in those early impressionable years, is my focus here today. It wasn’t until after I got out of the Church that I learned about the contradictions in Smith’s story. While there were a handful of questions in my mind when I left Mormonism, it never dawned on me just how many contradictions there were, or the vastness and totality of what he’d done.
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged angel of light, false prophecies of Mormonism, Moroni, Revelation 14:6 on 08/03/2013| Leave a Comment »
Moroni the Fulfillment of Scripture?
Joseph Smith’s Commentary on the Bible, pg 225; “The angel flying through the midst of heaven: Moroni delivered the Book of Mormon.”
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