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While perusing the LDS website earlier this week, we came across an interesting article. The Church reminded members their apostles have Instagram, and other social network platforms from which they send out quick messages.

Just to make it clear, our hearts hurt for Mr. Oaks. He’s either very deceived in believing there’s nothing wrong with the hypocritical behavior of the Church, or he’s complicit in spreading the lies and confusion on to members. Or both. (more…)

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 On lds.org we noticed they’ve created their own version of an Advent Calendar. You can download the calendar by following the link below.

The introduction to the calendar reads –

“Each Christmas, we celebrate the life of Jesus Christ, the Light of the World. By following His teachings, we let his light shine—in our lives and in the lives of others. This year, use this calendar for inspiration as you plan your Christmas activities to help #LightTheWorld by serving those in need.”

 

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November 13 – Twisting scripture for personal gain. Hebrews 7:1-4; ‘For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;  To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;  Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.  Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.’

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bom.jpgToday we’re looking at a rather complicated, not to mention messy, timing problem in the ‘most correct book on the face of the earth, otherwise known as the Book of Mormon…According to LDS.org, the Nephite nation was killed off by the Lamanites circa 385 AD.
 

Mormon Chapter 6; “The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.”

 

Keep in mind, this also included Moroni’s dad, Mormon.

Apparently Moroni finished writing his dad’s excerpt for the Book of Mormon c. 401 AD. By this time his dad had already been dead for 15 years.

Mormon 8:3; “And my father also was killed by them, and I even remain alone to write the sad tale of the destruction of my people…” – 401-421 AD

Fast forward a chapter or so to Moroni 8:1 (c. 401-421 AD), and we find Moroni stating he received a letter from his dad, Mormon, shortly after he (Moroni) went into ministry.

Remember, this was fifteen years after his father supposedly died.

“An epistle of my father Mormon, written to me, Moroni; and it was written unto me soon after my calling to the ministry. And on this wise did he write unto me, saying…”

How did this happen?

Complicating matters further, we see another timing problem for Moroni and his dad. The following is still more of that letter where his dad is telling him (Moroni) the Nephites’ pride is what eventually killed them off.

Moroni 8:27; “Behold, my son, I will write unto you again if I go not out soon against the Lamanites. Behold, the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proven their destruction except they should repent.” About A.D. 401–421.

Again, how did this happen?

How could he talk if he was dead?

How would he know these things if he was already dead?

Why would he talk about the pride of the Nephite nation if they were already dead?

And last, but not least, notice three key phrases Mormon focused on in vss. 28-29 –

Moroni 8:28-29; “Pray for them, my son, that repentance may comeunto them. But behold, I fear lest the Spirit hath ceased striving with them; and in this part of the land they are also seeking to put down all power and authority which cometh from God; and they are denying the Holy Ghost. 29 And after rejecting so great a knowledge, my son, they must perish soon, unto the fulfilling of the prophecies which were spoken by the prophets, as well as the words of our Savior himself.” – c. 421 AD

The Nephites had been dead for 36 years so why would they need prayer for them to repent (v. 28)?

If they’d already been dead, why did Mormon state they must perish soon in v. 29?

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Mormon Lifestyles1As I look at the different videos on YouTube by members of the Mormon Church, I find myself wondering how far are they willing to go be seen as “one of the guys (or gals)”? I’ve seen link after link of different parodies of songs members of the Church have made to promote something about their religion.

A new thing they seem to be into is taking popular songs and making it “their own”. Below are just a few examples of this:

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Old-Testament-Gospel-Doctrine-Teachers-Manual-35570000Like the first lesson in their study of the Old Testament lesson two has very little to do with the Bible, but has many references to other books in their canon.

This next lesson focuses on the Mormon belief that all of us lived before we came to earth in a premortal life with God. In this premortal life we lived as spirit children of God his goddess wife/wives. These spirit children include every person who has ever been born including Jesus and Satan, and 1/3 of the spirits who chose to follow Satan.

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Baptismal Interview Questions – Part 5

MormonBaptisimOne thing you’ll learn as you begin the process of converting to Mormonism is that Mormons think of themselves as a “covenant keeping people”. They believe they enter into and make many covenants with God throughout their lives, the first being the one they enter into when they’re baptized into the Mormon Church. This final question in the interview process asks for their commitment to keep this covenant.

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flowers-cartoon-8This month’s Visiting Teaching message is centered on the women in the church following the example of the Jesus Christ.

The message begins with a quote from the Book of Mormon:

“To the Nephites, Christ said, “For the works which ye have seen me do that shall ye also do” (3 Nephi 27:21).”

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In the latest episode of Breaking the Faith the group traveled to Salt Lake City, UT to stay in house a owned by a Mormon woman who helps the FLDS transition to the outside world. While I think it’s great she wants to help the FLDS girls find their way in this new life outside of their religion I can’t help but think it’s a little odd.

Both religions are cut from the same cloth woven by Joseph Smith. Both hold to up the Book of Mormon as scripture, both believe the practice of polygamy came from God; both believe you must make yourself worthy through obedience to the doctrines of the church and both consider Smith a prophet.

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This will be part 2 in my series on the questions asked of people before they become baptized members of the Mormon Church. This second set of questions is focused on the individuals “testimony” of church leaders who’ve been called to be prophets of this organization.

Question #2-

 Do you believe the Church and gospel of Jesus Christ have been restored through the Prophet Joseph Smith?

Mormon doctrine teaches that a Great Apostasy occurred after Jesus was crucified and the apostles died, and with it came the loss of all gospel ordinances and priesthood authority. And because these things need to be restored God choose Joseph Smith to be his prophet and restorer of their faith.

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thinkingimageIn response to our article “Why do you love the Book of Mormon” one our Mormon readers had this to say –

“If you left the Mormon church because you “discovered” the power of the redeeming blood of Jesus Christ outside of the LDS church, I’m sorry you never understood that before you left. But plenty of people do.” – Lynda

“the power …of the redeeming blood ….of Jesus Christ… “

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The visiting teaching message for October 2013 is titled The Divine Mission of Jesus Christ: Creator. The message this month gives a very vague, and watered down view of what the Mormons believe is the mission of Jesus Christ. In this brief article I hope to fill in the gaps, and address things they choose to leave unspoken.

Council-Heaven-MormonAs I investigated the Mormon Church one of the lessons the missionaries taught me was about the origins and mission of Jesus Christ. I learned that he was the first born spirit child of Heavenly Father and his goddess wife. I was told there was a great council in heaven to determine who would be sent to be the savior of the world and who help create the new world under Heavenly Father’s direction.

At this meeting both Jesus and Lucifer (who is also a spirit child of Heavenly Father) stepped forward to be the savior. In the end Jesus was ultimately chosen to be the savior and creator of the world.

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During the first weekend of October Mormons all around the world will gather together in their homes and church buildings to watch General Conference. During the conference they’ll hear from various church leaders as well as their prophet. The messages they hear will be on many things, but I know for certain they won’t hear a message like the one Todd Friel gave here.

Mormons are so caught up in the do, do, do of their religion and achieving their own righteousness that they’ve completely missed the point of why Jesus came in the first place. I wish every Mormon could hear the true gospel message of grace, and being saved after nothing they can do.

Are you lacking Christian assurance?

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  thinkingimageThe other day I was surfing the web came across Deseret Book’s web site. It was there I found this child’s bookmark, as you can see in colorful letters it says: I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ.

At first glance this may seem harmless and not worth acknowledging, but we have to remember everything Mormons do and say has a specific meaning. When we realize this we’re able to take a second look and read between the lines to see what they’re really trying to say.

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Hello, soon I’ll be launching my new blog designed especially for the LDS woman. Using various LDS resources from the Visiting Teaching Message to the lessons in Relief Society on Sunday morning I hope to offer insight that will draw the women who read my blog closer to Jesus Christ.

There are many challenges and expectation LDS women face daily whether they’re young or old, married or single. One thing in common with all the internal and external battles they face is perfection. Although I’ve heard many Mormons deny it the sad fact is with membership in the church comes the desire and command to be perfect.

I hope and pray that through my blog I will be able to offer the women who come there some encouragement, and help them replace the negative dialog going in their heads with God’s truth. And know the love of the real Jesus Christ.

The new blog is titled LDS Sister’s Corner, web address is  http://ldssisterscorner.wordpress.com/

In Christ,

Melissa Grimes

melissa@lifeafter.org

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2 Corinthians 5:8 – We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

350px-Plan_of_SalvationWhile Mormons claim to be Christian they choose to follow many heretical doctrines that defy logic and ignore basic biblical teachings. One these doctrines gives those who have died a second chance at salvation. It’s a customized version of universalism that says every person, good and bad alike will have a chance to redeem themselves through Mormonism when they die. Accepting this religion after they’re dead will guarantee they receive a certain amount of glory and a place in one of the three levels of Heaven. In order to understand what that means, first we need to define salvation according to their doctrines.

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“We can also intentionally deceive others by a gesture or a look, by silence, or by telling only part of the truth. Whenever we lead people in any way to believe something that is not true, we are not being honest. The Lord is not pleased with such dishonesty, and we will have to account for our lies.” – Gospel Principles, p 181.

In this part of our investigation we’re taking a look at the obscure. While most of the names we’re looking at receive a lot of attention on the forefront, there’s little to no information given in the text explaining their historical background or geographical location.

As a student of the Bible I approach my studies expecting to discover in-depth info about the people involved and where they lived. Everything in the Bible has a paper trail if you will, with that person, event or place linking it to previous events. It describes why people were given the names they had, why God had a relationship with them, what they could expect from Him and vice versa.  Unfortunately this isn’t the case when it comes to the Book of Mormon.

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They Fell to the Earth in the Book of Mormon

This is one in a series of several articles looking at various topics in the Book of Mormon. This article is focusing on the phrase “they fell to the earth”.  As I was gathering info on another topic I kept coming across this unusual phrase with different variations. Intrigued by its appearance, I decided to list it as a topic in our series so here we are!

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Temple Ceremonies Part 3 Telestial World

THE LONE AND DREARY WORLD: THE TELESTIAL KINGDOM

ADAM PRAYS

[Adam and Eve are shown full view for the first time and they’re wearing animal skins.  The lone and dreary world is represented by desert scenery. Adam kneels at his stone altar, spreads his hands to heaven, and prays.]

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March 15 – Is. 40:8; “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever”.

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Word study time!  Eternal and forever are the key words for today.  Look them up in a dictionary, concordance and lexicon and then share your new found knowledge with the Mormon.  Be sure to use some of your favorite verses from the Bible that contain these words.  Don’t forget to explain why the verses you share are your favorites.  What did God reveal to you through these things?

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2 Nephi 9:16; “And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word which cannot pass away”.

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