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Witnessing Tip of the Day June 01June 24 – High Priest. Leviticus 21:10; “And he that is the high priest among his brethren, upon whose head the anointing oil was poured, and that is consecrated to put on the garments, shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes.”

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March 19 – Geography lessons needed for the Book of Mormon. Numbers 14:25; “(Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites dwelt in the valley).  To morrow turn you, and get you into the wilderness by the way of the Red Sea”.

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sheep33 Nephi 15:21-22; “And verily I say unto you, that ye are they of whom I said: Other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 22 And they understood me not, for they supposed it had been the Gentiles; for they understood not that the Gentiles should be converted through their preaching.”

 

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Petro_4The other day a television show my husband Kirk, and I were watching reminded me yet again why Joseph Smith’s golden plates were anything but authentic. The show had a group of guys out site seeing in the rugged canyons of Colorado, and at one point they stopped to check out a large outcropping of rocks well known for the Petroglyphs on one side of them.

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BoM Another TestamentActs 2:35-36; “For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.”

Hebrews 1:3; “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high”.

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Galatians 5:22-23; “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”

joseph smith 3Today we’re looking at claims the Book of Mormon makes about itself, and if you know anything about Mormonism, you probably have an opinion about it as well! Outside opinions can be helpful, but what does the book itself say about its own content?

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bom.jpgToday we’re looking at a rather complicated, not to mention messy, timing problem in the ‘most correct book on the face of the earth, otherwise known as the Book of Mormon…According to LDS.org, the Nephite nation was killed off by the Lamanites circa 385 AD.
 

Mormon Chapter 6; “The Nephites gather to the land of Cumorah for the final battles—Mormon hides the sacred records in the hill Cumorah—The Lamanites are victorious, and the Nephite nation is destroyed—Hundreds of thousands are slain with the sword. About A.D. 385.”

 

Keep in mind, this also included Moroni’s dad, Mormon.

Apparently Moroni finished writing his dad’s excerpt for the Book of Mormon c. 401 AD. By this time his dad had already been dead for 15 years.

Mormon 8:3; “And my father also was killed by them, and I even remain alone to write the sad tale of the destruction of my people…” – 401-421 AD

Fast forward a chapter or so to Moroni 8:1 (c. 401-421 AD), and we find Moroni stating he received a letter from his dad, Mormon, shortly after he (Moroni) went into ministry.

Remember, this was fifteen years after his father supposedly died.

“An epistle of my father Mormon, written to me, Moroni; and it was written unto me soon after my calling to the ministry. And on this wise did he write unto me, saying…”

How did this happen?

Complicating matters further, we see another timing problem for Moroni and his dad. The following is still more of that letter where his dad is telling him (Moroni) the Nephites’ pride is what eventually killed them off.

Moroni 8:27; “Behold, my son, I will write unto you again if I go not out soon against the Lamanites. Behold, the pride of this nation, or the people of the Nephites, hath proven their destruction except they should repent.” About A.D. 401–421.

Again, how did this happen?

How could he talk if he was dead?

How would he know these things if he was already dead?

Why would he talk about the pride of the Nephite nation if they were already dead?

And last, but not least, notice three key phrases Mormon focused on in vss. 28-29 –

Moroni 8:28-29; “Pray for them, my son, that repentance may comeunto them. But behold, I fear lest the Spirit hath ceased striving with them; and in this part of the land they are also seeking to put down all power and authority which cometh from God; and they are denying the Holy Ghost. 29 And after rejecting so great a knowledge, my son, they must perish soon, unto the fulfilling of the prophecies which were spoken by the prophets, as well as the words of our Savior himself.” – c. 421 AD

The Nephites had been dead for 36 years so why would they need prayer for them to repent (v. 28)?

If they’d already been dead, why did Mormon state they must perish soon in v. 29?

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Mormon Decisions 10Today we’re asking the question –

Is it plausible that the BoM people practiced Christianity while living in both Central and South America for over 1,100 years and left no evidence of their existence on either continent?

 

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Holley1Leaving Mormonism and all it entails is a process filled with surprises, shock, disappointments and relief to name a few. Just when you think you’ve heard it all and nothing else can surprise you, a new discovery in Mormon teachings or history rears its ugly head.

The article here is case in point. I’ll never forget the first time I saw maps from the era of Joseph Smith’s day.  I sat in shock as I read names of valleys and townships that were eerily similar to names I knew were in the Book of Mormon.

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Grafting in Whom?

Mormon Decisions 101 Nephi 10:14; “And after the house of Israel should be scattered they should be gathered together again; or, in fine, after the Gentiles had received the fulness of the Gospel, the natural branches of the olive-tree, or the remnants of the house of Israel, should be grafted in, or come to the knowledge of the true Messiah, their Lord and their Redeemer.”

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salt lake mormon temple 2Alma 17:19; “And Ammon went to the land of Ishmael, the land being called after the sons of Ishmael, who also became Lamanites.”

Psalm 18:30; “As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.”

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Moroni 3The story of Moroni goes hand in hand with anything to do with Joseph Smith. If there’s no Moroni, there’s no restoration of the gospel and no first vision. Ahh, but the story of the first vision includes the lesser known version that Nephi, not Moroni, showed up to tell Joseph about the restoration.

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Shoddy Swords and Scalps

Mormon Decisions 10Alma 44:12; “And now when Moroni had said these words, Zerahemnah retained his sword, and he was angry with Moroni, and he rushed forward that he might slay Moroni; but as he raised his sword, behold, one of Moroni’s soldiers smote it even to the earth, and it broke by the hilt; and he also smote Zerahemnah that he took off his scalp and it fell to the earth. And Zerahemnah withdrew from before them into the midst of his soldiers.”

Psalm 119:105; “Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.”

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Deuteronomy 12:32; “What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.”

Prophet Malachi by Duccio di Buoninsegna 1308-1311 ItalyCould Jesus be wrong about Scripture? If He was the one who inspired men to write scripture is there a plausible answer for what took place with His visit to the Nephites in America circa 33 AD?

Our example in the Deuteronomy verse above is a gift to us from the Lord and should be used as guidance in how we’re to treat scripture and His commandments. When the Bible says not to add to His words or take away from it, we should heed His wise counsel and remember it when we come across things like we see with Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.

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Alpha & Omega

Mormon Decisions 103 Nephi 9:18; “I am the light and the life of the world. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.”

Revelation 1:8; “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”

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Reformed Egyptian

Mormon Decisions 10Mormon 9:32; “And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.”

Hosea 2:17; “For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.”

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Racial Divisions

Mormon Decisions 101 Nephi 13:15; “And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain.”

Acts 10:34-35; “Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.”

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 Book of Mormon & Dates in History

     A few years ago I took a bible study class on the book of Jeremiah.  Now I’ve been taking bible study classes non-stop since I was saved back on Palm Sunday of ’93 and I have to say that just like every other Christian I learn a lot, but there are times when the studies are more significant than others.  The study of Jeremiah did that for me.

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The Book of Questions

Helaman – BC 52-2

I’ve always thought of Helaman as the book of questions. While the entire Book of Mormon has many unanswered questions this one book has always made me wonder why my people can’t see through the lies of Joseph Smith. Today we’re looking at just a couple of things.

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Inspired of God?  Difficulties in the Book of Mormon

“All scripturei s given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” 2 Timothy 3:16.

     The key word here is inspiration.  This word in the Greek is theopneustos.  It means God breathed.  Look anywhere in the Bible, there is nothing in it that contradicts itself, there are no mistakes, and it is all one hundred percent perfect! Archaeologists will sometimes use the Bible to search for the spots they want to investigate.  There are hundreds of documents which prove the Bible to be true, from Josephus of the first century to the Dead Sea Scrolls.  Each time they find something new, it validates what the Bible says!

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