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 If this wasn’t such an important part of LDS theology, it’d hardly be worth the time to point out the discrepancy we found here. However, Mormonism’s foundation relies on the belief God needed Satan’s intervention to help carry out His plan…

Devil is Cause of Death

Journal of Discourses 1:281 “…He has permitted the destroyer to visit them, who has usurped a certain dominion and authority, carrying desolation and ruin on every hand; the perfections of the original organizations have ceased.” — Orson Pratt, Great Salt Lake, July 25, 1852 (more…)

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Ether 3:15; “And never have I showed myself unto man whom I have created, for never has man believed in me as thou hast.” — BC c. 2200 [emp. added]

D&C 107:53-55; “Three years previous to the death of Adam, he called Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, and Methuselah, who were all high priests, with the residue of his posterity who were righteous, into the valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, and there bestowed upon them his last blessing. 54 And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel. 55 And the Lord administered comfort unto Adam, and said unto him: I have set thee to be at the head; a multitude of nations shall come of thee, and thou art a prince over them forever.” — [emp. added]

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“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5  For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, And hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet”. Psalm 8:4-6

 Today we’re looking at a Mormon belief that’s not only a contradiction, and plagiarism, but an obvious false doctrine as well. We originally posted this back in 2011.

Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15 “The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind. At the great council he proposed a new plan of salvation, event, the Lord revealed the following to Moses…” — Milton Hunter (more…)

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 As you can readily see in LDS theology, they can’t make up their mind.

At one time, Joseph Smith declared murder isn’t forgiven –

D&C 42:18 “And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come.”

However, Nephi said murder is forgiven – (more…)

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“The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: But the word of our God shall stand for ever.” — Isaiah 40:8

Doctrines of Salvation 3:224 “At the command of the Lord, however, Moroni also sealed up the greater things in this vision and also the interpreters-which were the same “two stones” had by the Brother of Jared-so that this vision should not be made known even in our day among the Gentiles, in the day of their wickedness; it could not be revealed “until the day that they shall repent of their iniquity, and become clean before the Lord.” So we today do not have the fulness of the account written and sealed up by the Brother of Jared and again sealed by Moroni. This part of the record the Prophet Joseph Smith was forbidden to translate. We have, then, received but the “lesser part.”” — Joseph Fielding Smith (more…)

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From the outside looking in, it’s easy to see the Mormon gospel is a bag of mixed messages. However, for those on the inside blatant contradictions are either missed, and/or ignored.

Reality: the nuance of the Mormon god’s gospel is anything but endearing.

We came across two varying opinions of God’s love for us on another site which gave us pause, and prompted the obvious question…

Which prophet do you believe? (more…)

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Job 31:15 “Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?”

Being raised in Utah Mormonism affords a person many experiences of being taught things that aren’t necessarily standard LDS doctrine. Today we’re looking at one of those.

A few weeks ago I came across a copy of the LDS General Handbook Vol. 1, originally provided by the Mormon version of WikiLeaks. This book serves as another reminder of how the Church goes out of its way to confuse people.a

As many of our readers know, our daughter Mallory was stillborn in October 1988. With that in mind, I’m obviously interested in what the Church’s thoughts are on this topic. What caught my attention in this go-round was the major contradiction they serve up as official doctrine.

Not only did they contradict themselves in what they believe about stillbirths, they also left those who are affected by the tragedy with absolutely no hope. Check out what they’ve said in the Handbook, and what Brigham Young said about babies. (more…)

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Doctrine and Covenants 20:28 “Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.” — April 1830

Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.” — April 22, 1843 (more…)

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John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”

Alma 31:15 “Holy, holy God; we believe that thou art God, and we believe that thou art holy, and that thou wast a spirit, and that thou art a spirit, and that thou wilt be a spirit forever.”

Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.” — Joseph Smith, April 1843

Today we’ve listed God’s word first as a reminder the measure of truth comes from God and none else.

If a Mormon were to search for a description of their god, they’re going to find a number of problems. Is their god an exalted man, or a spirit? The Book of Mormon states he’s a spirit, but their founder Joe Smith, said he’s an exalted man. (more…)

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‘A double minded man is unstable in all his ways’. James 1:8

While strolling around on the list of classes available at BYU, I came across an interesting page, ‘History of the English Bible’.

This page listed several resources along with a short synopsis on the history of English Bibles produced by Wycliffe from the 14th century, to the latter 20th century publications of the NKJV (New King James Version), and even the NIV (New International Version).

There were also three other items of note on this page. (more…)

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Romans 6:23; “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Today we’re looking at major contradictions in the BoM, and the Pearl of Great Price that Mr. Joseph Smith, Jr. penned.

Here’s what he claimed came from God’s lips to his mind…

Alma 41:10; “Do not suppose, because it has been spoken concerning restoration, that ye shall be restored from sin to happiness. Behold, I say unto you, wickedness never was happiness.” – c. BC 47

But Joe Smith also said this…

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Moses 4:4; “And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.”

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Colossians 3:9; “Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds”.

Our post today comes courtesy of an ex-Mormon, Carl, who’s training to become a pastor! PTL!

As he was looking over his copy of an 1830 Book of Mormon he immediately realized the contradictions  of what he’d been taught as a child growing up in Mormonism.

Mosiah 3:11; “For behold, and also his blood atoneth for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam, who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them, or who have ignorantly sinned.”

Article of Faith #2; “We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.”

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 Doctrine and Covenants 24:1; “Behold, thou wast called and chosen to write the Book of Mormon, and to my ministry; and I have lifted thee up out of thine afflictions, and have counseled thee, that thou hast been delivered from all thine enemies, and thou hast been delivered from the powers of Satan and from darkness!” [emp. mine]

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