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 July 4 – A nightmare come true. John 8:32 “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”.

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 June 26 – He removed our transgression. Psalm 103:12; “As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.”

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July 4 – A nightmare come true. John 8:32; “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”.

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2 Thessalonians 2:9-11; “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”

Smith’s ingenuity in finding ways to confuse people never ceases to amaze me. What’s even more surprising is false-prophecies-of-mormonism-2how so many have been blinded by it. Today we’re looking at the contradictions in Mormon canon on who should forgive, and when to do so.

The first revelation listed here is from September 11, 1831.

D&C 64:9–10; ”I, the Lord, will forgive whom I will forgive, but of you it is required to forgive all men; but he that forgiveth not his brother standeth condemned before the Lord.”

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Witnessing Tip of the Day June 01June 26 – He removed our transgression. Psalm 103:12; “As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.”

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December 23 – 1 John 2:1; “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.”

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flowers-cartoon-8The Visiting Teaching Message this month focuses on the forgiveness and mercy of Jesus Christ and how Mormons can apply it to their lives.

As I began reading the message I was struck by the quote from Dieter F. Uchtdorf where he said: “Forgiveness for our sins comes with conditions”.

He then goes on to say. “We must repent, and we must be willing to forgive others.”

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Mormon Decisions 10Ensign, “How Can I Know That The Lord Has Forgiven Me?,” January 2015; “If the time comes when you have done all that you can to repent of your sins, whoever you are, wherever you are, and have made amends and restitution to the best of your ability; if it be something that will affect yourHarold B. Lee standing in the Church and you have gone to the proper authorities, then you will want that confirming answer as to whether or not the Lord has accepted of you. In your soul-searching, if you seek for and you find that peace of conscience, by that token you may know that the Lord has accepted of your repentance. Satan would have you think otherwise and sometimes persuade you that now having made one mistake, you might go on and on with no turning back. That is one of the great falsehoods. The miracle of forgiveness is available to all of those who turn from their evil doings and return no more.” – Harold B. Lee

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crosses 3Luke 9:23-25; “And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. 24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it. 25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?”

A couple of weeks ago my pastor spoke on taking risks and what our responsibilities are as members of the church of Jesus Christ. He based his sermon on the passage above and of course I began thinking about the Mormons. For this article   I have two objectives to explore and they are;

What did Jesus mean when He said ‘pick up your cross’?

What does this phrase mean for the Mormon?

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For part three of my discussion on the questions asked during the interview process before one becomes a member of the Mormon faith I’ll be focusing on the third and fourth questions.

This set of questions has to do with the Mormons view of repentance and what they consider the more “serious sins”.

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salt lake mormon temple 2Miracle of Forgiveness, pg 357; “The Lord will indeed forgive, but he will not tolerate repetitions of the sin.” – Spencer W. Kimball

Repentance Brings Forgiveness, pg 7; “The forsaking of sins must be a permanent one. True repentance does not permit making the same mistake again.” “The Lord said, ‘Go your way and sin no more; but unto that soul who sineth shall the former sins return.’ (D&C 82:7).” – Spencer W. Kimball

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stickman thinking 3Earlier today Melissa sent me an e-mail sharing her thoughts from the Bible study she’s doing right now and because I believe this is such a classic example of the way Mormons think we’re posting our e-mail exchange with our readers!

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David Went to Hell & Lost His Kingdom

salt lake mormon temple 2Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg 339; “A murderer, for instance, one that sheds innocent blood, cannot have forgiveness. David sought repentance at the hand of God carefully with tears, for the murder of Uriah; but he could only get it through hell: he got a promise that his soul should not be left in hell. Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah and the fullness of the Priesthood; and the Priesthood that he received, and the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage.”

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Murder

Murder forgiven

Alma 24:10; “And I also thank my God, yea, my great God, that he hath granted unto us that we might repent of these things, and also that he hath forgiven us of those our many sins and murders which we have committed, and taken away the guilt from our hearts, through the merits of his Son.”

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Forgiveness

Enos 1:5-8; “And there came a voice unto me, saying: Enos, thy sins are forgiven thee, and thou shalt be blessed.  And I, Enos, knew that God could not lie; wherefore, my guilt was swept away. And I said: Lord, how is it done? And he said unto me: Because of thy faith in Christ, whom thou hast never before heard nor seen. And many years pass away before he shall manifest himself in the flesh; wherefore, go to, thy faith hath made thee whole.”

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God’s Condemnation on Sinners

Today I watched a three minute video on what looks like an LDS remake of Mel Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ.

In the story taken from Luke 8:1-11, we find the Pharisees trying to trap Jesus for blasphemy and on this day while they’re calling Him Master, remember the day before this they referred to Him as a deceiver. The court of Pharisees brought a woman in front of Jesus who had been caught in adultery. They unceremoniously condemned her while asking Jesus what His thoughts were on this situation.

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Murderers not Forgiven!! 

Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg 221; “”Remission of sins by baptism was not to be preached to murderers. All the priests of Christendom might pray for a murderer on the scaffold forever, but could not avail so much as a gnat towards their forgiveness. There is no forgiveness for murderers; they will have to wait until the times of redemption shall come, and that in hell.”

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Denying the Lord Jesus

While answering e-mails today I came across a passage of Mormon scripture in D&C 138:58-59 which says;

The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

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June 12 – Matt 5:7; “Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.”

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Polygamy and Mormon Church Leaders

Wilford Woodruff 1807-1898

Journal of Discourses 13:166; “If we were to do away with polygamy, it would only be one feather in the bird, one ordinance in the Church and kingdom. Do away with that, then we must do away with prophets and Apostles, with revelation and the gifts and graces of the Gospel, and finally give up our religion altogether and turn sectarians and do as the world does, then all would be right. We just can’t do that, for God has commanded us to build up His kingdom and to bear our testimony to the nations of the earth, and we are going to do it, come life or come death.” – Wilford Woodruff, Salt Lake City, December 12, 1869

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