September 15 – No Marriages in Heaven. Mark 12:23-25 “In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.”
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Jesus made it clear about marriages in heaven. Hmm…maybe He knew this would be an issue with the Mormons?! They will tell you that this meant the woman wasn’t married in the temple, therefore, negating her chances of being married in heaven for eternity.
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“If the family unit continues, then by virtue of that fact the members of the family have gained eternal life (exaltation), the greatest of all the gifts of God, for by definition exaltation consists in the continuation of the family unit in eternity. Those so inheriting are the sons and daughters of God, the members of his family, those who have made their callings and elections sure, They are joint-heirs with Christ to all that the Father hath, and they receive the fulness of the glory of the Father, becoming gods in their own right. (D. & C. 132; Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 2, pp. 58-99.)” Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 117.
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Such garbage. Of which temple ceremony version is Bruce speaking….the one with the minister or the one without? The one with the motions of slitting throats and stomachs, or the one without. It is all such manmade garbage. Once I was blind, but now I see. Hallelujah. Jesus said something…..don´t mess with it.
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!
Not fair for lifelong singles.
Couldn’t I get another chance to get married in the afterlife? What about people with disabilities that can’t get married on Earth?
Hello World questioned,
Thanks so much for your comment. I’m 58 and never been married. And I’m in stage 4 cancer, so at this point I will probably never marry. But, Jesus is my Bridegroom. As a Christian I will be eternally married to Jesus PTL. That’s what I have to look forward to.
We won’t need to be married to any other. One reason is we will have no need to procreate in heaven. Procreation is for the earthly world. The number of people redeemed in heaven is already set. And because we have been redeemed (having conquered death), so we will have no need to populate. We will no longer be in human form. No reproductive system needed.
By the way, you may want to rethink your theory about people with disabilities not being able to marry. I can assure you many people with disabilities marry everyday.
Tetelestai-Melissa Brown
P.S. Michelle left several Bible verses in this post to back it up.
But Jesus is male, and I want a female as a partner.
Disabilities hold people back on their chance of getting married.
What about those that get married later in life and never get to experience the beauty of young marriage?
Just because romance is not needed for procreation doesn’t mean that it couldn’t continue to exist just for the purpose of pleasure.
Could sexuality have a deeper meaning than just intercourse? Does it mean something that we don’t yet know, and won’t understand until we get to Heaven?
Hello again Questioner.
“But Jesus is male, and I want a female as a partner”????
What does that even mean? So, from your first comment to your last…”won’t understand until we get there”, really shows you have no idea what you’re talking about, and that you’re Biblically illiterate. And you’re speaking from your own human experiences, and what the LDS church has lied to you about eternal marriages.
I also need you to understand how disrespectful and offensive it is to sexualize Jesus…I know, I know, we’ll find out when we get there. Don’t just guess, and make things up regarding marriage in heaven and Jesus’s marital status. The author gave Biblical references to support this topic.
It sounds like you live an incredibly sheltered life. Again, people with disabilities marry all the time. Maybe you don’t see it because the LDS church considers people with disabilities unworthy because they may have limitations on performing temple ordinances.Therefore they can’t get a temple recommend to marry in the temple.
Way to go! You managed to disrespect Jesus and people with disabilities in one fell swoop.
Tetelestai-Melissa
Amen Melissa!
You are very rude and condescending to this person showing genuine curiosity. Not very Christ-like Melissa. Also as a non-mormon living in Utah, I can tell you that I know several “worthy” handicapped people.
Hi Anonymous,
I apologize if I came off too harsh. Over the years I’ve heard all kinds of reasons from the saints regarding marriage in heaven. And Word Questioner brought up “life long singles, and disabled people”. And I took a bit of offense to that. Me being a life long single, and I’ve known several disabled people over the years who are married. So yeah, I took offense. And I just wanted them to realize disabled people get married all the time.
I know the LDS temple has gone through a lot of changes over the years. And one of them was complying with ADA laws. But once upon a time, some people with certain disabilities who were limited on being able to perform the signs and tokens and other ordinances, couldn’t get a temple recommend. I was just sticking up for them. Word Questioner seemed to think they can’t get married on earth.
Another reason the LDS justify marriage in heaven, is by claiming Jesus was married,or even a polygamist with children. And to a Christian sexualizing Jesus in any way is blasphemous.
I was merely defending Jesus and disabled people. Again I apologize if it was too harsh.
Thank you for commenting.
Melissa
Hi Anonymous,
I apologize if I came off too harsh. Over the years I’ve heard all kinds of reasons from the saints regarding marriage in heaven. And Word Questioner brought up “life long singles, and disabled people”. And I took a bit of offense to that. Me being a life long single, and I’ve known several disabled people over the years who are married. So yeah, I took offense. And I just wanted them to realize disabled people get married all the time.
I know the LDS temple has gone through a lot of changes over the years. And one of them was complying with ADA laws. But once upon a time, some people with certain disabilities who were limited on being able to perform the signs and tokens and other ordinances, couldn’t get a temple recommend. I was just sticking up for them. Word Questioner seemed to think they can’t get married on earth.
Another reason the LDS justify marriage in heaven, is by claiming Jesus was married,or even a polygamist with children. And to a Christian sexualizing Jesus in any way is blasphemous.
I was merely defending Jesus and disabled people. Again I apologize if it was too harsh.
Thank you for commenting.
Melissa
Maybe it’s not what I meant.
But as a young man with autism… I fear missing out.
I wish I could communicate it better.
Singles won’t be a second-class citizen, will they be? Won’t they have all the luxuries in Heaven that married people have?
Couldn’t a lifelong single meet the person that God had in mind for them as spouse, even though they never married?
The LDS church… or what Swedenborg teaches? Refer to https://leewoof.org/christian-beliefs-that-the-bible-doesnt-teach/. Also check out his articles on penal substitution, sola fide, and the Trinity of Persons.
Hello there Questioner,
I’m really sorry I came off too harsh. It’s not your fault. It’s the unbiblical teachings of the church.
I’m also incredibly sad you “fear missing out”. It shouldn’t be that way. I’d be happy to find you a church in your area, that would welcome you, just as you are, and use your talents in a special way. No marriage certificate or temple recommend needed.
The Bible says our Bridegroom is Jesus, and we will be eternally espoused to Him. So there’s no room for a fallible spouse. We will have something so much better.
Sure, it’s bothered me a little over the years, being single. But I know God has other plans for me. I’ve been able to volunteer over the years, but if I was married with kids, I might not have
had the opportunity. God uses single people.
One last thing… heaven is not for marriage and making spirit babies. Heaven will consist of those who’ve accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. Those who’ve rejected the Gospel (1 Corinthians 15 1-6) will be eternally separated from God. There are no levels.
Questioner, my name is Melissa and I will be happy to help you and answer any and all questions you have. I’m truly sorry we got off to a bad start. I look forward to your reply.
Melissa
Hello there Questioner,
I’m really sorry I came off too harsh. It’s not your fault. It’s the unbiblical teachings of the church.
I’m also incredibly sad you “fear missing out”. It shouldn’t be that way. I’d be happy to find you a church in your area, that would welcome you, just as you are, and use your talents in a special way. No marriage certificate or temple recommend needed.
The Bible says our Bridegroom is Jesus, and we will be eternally espoused to Him. So there’s no room for a fallible spouse. We will have something so much better.
Sure, it’s bothered me a little over the years, being single. But I know God has other plans for me. I’ve been able to volunteer over the years, but if I was married with kids, I might not have
had the opportunity. God uses single people.
One last thing… heaven is not for marriage and making spirit babies. Heaven will consist of those who’ve accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior. Those who’ve rejected the Gospel (1 Corinthians 15 1-6) will be eternally separated from God. There are no levels.
Questioner, my name is Melissa and I will be happy to help you and answer any and all questions you have. I’m truly sorry we got off to a bad start. I look forward to your reply.
Melissa
There are different degrees of punishment in hell, and different degrees of rewards in Heaven.
What happened to my other comment?
“Bridegroom is Jesus” – that doesn’t help. I want a spouse that is female, not male. Also, marriages are supposed to be horizontal, not vertical.
Hi again Questioner,
Thanks for your reply. I’m sorry you feel you won’t be satisfied in Jesus alone. As believers we’ll be resurrected in a glorified body. Which will be a much different body than our earthly body. We will have no need for a reproductive system or a digestive system. So we won’t be populating planets. There will not be a need for sex, or a toilet. Our earthly love will be drastically change. Our “euros” earthly marriage (sex) love, will change into God’s Agape love, and believers will be so much more satisfied. We will not long for earthly love, we will not experience sadness, loneliness, grief, pain, hunger, thirst etc…and with no hunger or thirst means no need for toilets.
The “Body of Christ” (saved Christians), looks forward to that day, when we’ll no longer deal with this fallen, sinful world, and be with our Gracious and All Loving God., because His love is so much better than any love as we know it here and now.
Good to hear from you,
Melissa
Beautiful reply and it’s what we all pray for members of the Church to know!
Michelle
Still not good enough.
Couldn’t sexuality and romance continue to exist solely for the purpose of pleasure?
I don’t see pleasure in agape love. Eros is just so pleasureful.
I see you brought the toilet up.
Eros and agape are opposite sides of the same coin – yin/yang.
World Questioner,
I also want to point out something you said in your comment. You said “Bridegroom is Jesus.- that doesn’t help. I want a spouse that is female not male”. 😞
I don’t even think you realize what you just did by saying that.
I want you to imagine standing before the Savior, and telling Him He is not enough and you want a sinful (because we’re all sinful) human wife to have sex with. It doesn’t sound so good when I point it out like that.
Please before you hit the send button, re-read your comments. From your first comment to this last one you’ve offended singles, females, people with disabilities and most importantly God Almighty.
You’re welcome to comment and ask questions, but if you’re just going to poo-poo my biblical answers and dismiss them, only to offer the LDS misogynistic worldview rebuttal. I won’t be responding anymore.
Thanks again Questioner,
Melissa
World Questioner,
I also want to point out something you said in your comment. You said “Bridegroom is Jesus.- that doesn’t help. I want a spouse that is female not male”. 😞
I don’t even think you realize what you just did by saying that.
I want you to imagine standing before the Savior, and telling Him He is not enough and you want a sinful (because we’re all sinful) human wife to have sex with. It doesn’t sound so good when I point it out like that.
Please before you hit the send button, re-read your comments. From your first comment to this last one you’ve offended singles, females, people with disabilities and most importantly God Almighty.
You’re welcome to comment and ask questions, but if you’re just going to poo-poo my biblical answers and dismiss them, only to offer the LDS misogynistic worldview rebuttal. I won’t be responding anymore.
Thanks again Questioner,
Melissa
I must have miscommunicated. I didn’t mean to offend singles. What have I done? As you said “I won’t be responding anymore,” I think I will be silent. I don’t plan to reply to your comments for quite some time.
Most importantly World Questioner, you’ve offended God by saying His perfect love for you is not enough for you…. You still don’t get it, and it breaks my heart.
How do I explain this? I find God boring, I don’t feel pleasure in him. I feel more pleasure in material things. But I ask God for a change in desires. It’s just a matter of time.
It’s good that God loves us and cares for us. That’s for sure.
But to say that we don’t need romance and sexuality because we have God’s perfect love, is like saying we don’t need rivers, or animals, or plants, or food, or drink, or housing… or what? And yet many of those things will be in Heaven.
Wow Questioner, I didn’t think your response could get worse. “God is boring”???
I never said we as human beings don’t need romance and sexuality as you put it.it’s a human trait. Human beings were designed that way. But, the topic was marriage in heaven. And I explained it several times. Believers and those that don’t find God boring, will be resurrected in a glorified body present with the Lord. Our MATERIALISTIC, prideful, sinful earthly wants will change.
I’m not giving you my opinion. I’m telling you what God says in His Word. You on the other hand, have only given your opinion based on your feelings.
It’s not necessary to reply. You’ve made yourself perfectly clear, and I don’t need to hear you belittle and mock God anymore.
Melissa
Amen Melissa! I certainly wouldn’t want to be in his shoes at the end.
Yes, I was talking about sexuality and romance in Heaven, not Earth. Sorry for the confusion. To clarify, what I meant is that saying that sex and romance is not needed in Heaven because we have the Lord Jesus Christ is like saying we don’t need rivers, lakes, animals, plants, food, beverage, music, tools, or books, and yet many of those things will be in Heaven even though we have the Lord Jesus Christ.
I don’t hate God. But I ask questions. I never, EVER ask God rhetorical questions. Every single question I ask God ALWAYS expects an answer. My sensitivity. I wonder what God is up to, and say “I don’t know why God does things the way he does.” That’s different from “I think God should not do things the way he does.” I just think “It’s possible that God has a reason for what he does.” I also do want the truth. I am wrestling with God, like Jacob’s name Israel means.
I feel that my sensitivity to God is diminished. I wish I felt pleasure in God. Just like Calvin says “total depravity.”
That’s why I need help, and God is compassionate towards me.
If I am a lost sheep, I will try to find my way back to God, but God, the shepherd, will find me first.
I also like to view things from other people’s perspectives. Like “What if I was him”?
I even think of giving up material things, since they distract me from God. I even think of saying “goodbye laptop” and “goodbye tv,” to name a few.
I also have autism, so sometimes I say things that turn out wrong. So please be patient.
I’m actually thankful you wrote back. Dealing with the lies from the LDS church, and Autism, must be incredibly challenging. And I think you’re right in thinking you’re a “lost sheep” but that doesn’t mean you’re a lost cause.
As a Christian, I believe the Bible is God’s authoritative Word. It’s our user manual if you will… it’s a love letter, it’s rich with history and geography and life lessons.
You mentioned you like getting other perspectives. There’s nothing wrong with that, for the most part. However, the only perspective that matters is God’s. Everybody has a perspective/opinion… right? So we use the Bible to determine what is right. Fo example, was Hitler right to wipe out the Jews? Well, Hitler thought he was right, i say he’s wrong. So who’s right? Is it just a matter of personal opinion? Or is there a standard by which we measure Truth. If there is no standard there is no Truth, just individual opinions. Which means there is no right and no wrong. What a scary place that would be. Once again we see history repeating itself. It’s happening again right now in the Middle East with Hamas killing the Jews. Is Hamas right? Christians know (a) Jews are God’s chosen people. And (b) Thou shalt not kill.
And this is where “total depravity” lies. But thankfully, God loves us enough to offer redemption through Christ Jesus. Who took the punishment of our sins, because we don’t always make the right choices. Unfortunately the LDS church doesn’t teach this concept.
You won’t find “God” in the teachings of the LDS church. It’s not a “Christian” denomination. I’m sorry, it’s not. Is that my perspective, opinion or feelings…No…it’s God’s perspective. God gave us the tools in the Bible to discern false teachings. One way to discern, is to ask…who is God, is Jesus God, and what is the Gospel?
Please do me a favor. Start with the Gospels, the first 4 books of the new testament. Clear your head, and read it for what it says. It’s not about praying to know it’s true. You don’t have to pray for truth. Truth is truth. If you want to know how far a place is, you consult a current reliable map… You don’t pray to know how many miles it is. The Bible is our reliable map.
I really hope you will do this. My name is Melissa, and I would love to hear back from you after you read the Gospels. Or after you finish John. Here is my email melissabrown92@hotmail.com, I think we’ve taken up a lot of real estate in this thread.
Believe it or not I’ve been praying for you, and so has Michelle, let me know how your Bible lesson goes.
I am actually wrestling with the teachings of Swedenborg. Refer to https://leewoof.org/2017/01/12/didnt-jesus-say-theres-no-marriage-in-heaven/ and https://leewoof.org/2015/08/31/can-you-fall-in-love-in-heaven-if-you-havent-found-someone-on-earth/, but be cautious when checking out posts by Lee Woofenden. The Trinity, penal substitution, and Luther’s doctrines would be a good topic for a comment to another post, so I won’t link to his articles here.