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Atonement

Ensign, November 2008, pg. 57; “”[The] testing of our limits in priesthood service is made necessary by God’s plan to qualify His children to live with Him again forever. Heavenly Father loves His children…To qualify us to receive that gift, He gave us a mortal body, the opportunity to be tempted to sin, and a way to be cleansed from that sin and to rise in the First Resurrection. He gave us His Beloved Son, Jehovah, as our Savior to make that possible. The Savior was born in mortal life, was tempted but never sinned, and then in Gethsemane and on Golgotha paid the price of our sins so that we could be cleansed. The purifying can come only to those who have faith enough in Jesus Christ to repent of sin, be cleansed through the ordinance of baptism, and make and keep covenants to obey all His commandments. And there was to be a fierce enemy of our souls, Lucifer, who would with his legions relentlessly try to capture every child of God to keep him or her from having the joy of eternal life.”” – Henry B. Eyring

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Atonement for Sin

This is what breaks our hearts here at the ministry.  One character marker we see time and again with the Mormon people is anger.  Dr. Walter Martin once said that the lies piled upon the soul of the Mormon people cause frustration and anger.  They’re usually argumentative and have been trained to provoke the anger in you to take away their guilt.  This gives them a reason to verbally attack.

Pray for them.

The following example taken from Doctrines of Salvation is a good example of how the Church confuses its members and obviously causes quite the dilemma.

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Adam and Eve’s Sin and the New Mormon Website

    In my daily LDS Gems e-mails I received notice today (February 26, 2008) of another new website launched by the Church.  Here in part is what it said;

“The new site is a helpful resource for anyone who wishes to know firsthand what Latter-day Saints believe about Jesus Christ. It is also a valuable reference that Church members can use as they share their beliefs with others.”

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Who Voided the Atonement of Christ?

      We received an e-mail from a member of the LDS Church who felt compelled to reply to our online newsletter he received last week.  I thought it was important to share this with our readers for two reasons.  First, to show the mindset of the Mormon and secondly, to ask the Mormon some serious questions.

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When I hear songs like the one above by Casting Crowns I can’t help but flash back to a time when my view of Jesus was very different from what it is today. As a Mormon the Jesus I believed in was my elder spirit brother, he was also a created being and the one we choose to follow in a pre-earth life and who atoned for our sins in the Garden of Gethsemane.

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Passion of the Christ and Mormons

 

Mormons stay away from Passion because of ‘R’ rating
In what is just another example of how Mormons are under the law, Mormons stayed away from theaters for the Passion of the Christ so they would not be seen at an R-rated movie.  In spite of what Mormons think, in reality, Mel Gibson probably did not go far enough in his depiction of Christ’s suffering. 

One has to wonder if the story was about Joseph Smith’s death, would the church care as much about these arbitrary ratings? Does the church care about appearances to a worldly rating system more than sharing in the suffering of their “Lord”? 

In a word, yes!

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20 Helps for Mormon Friends and Loved Ones

 1 – Word studies.  See if your Mormon friends would be interested in doing a word study with you!  These are great for the new ex-Mormon as well as for the Mormon.  Just pick your favorite word/topic from the Bible, find all the places in the Bible where this word is used to get the full context and share with each other what you’ve learned.  Make sure you both use a reputable concordance and dictionary.  Also let them know their opinion counts, that what they have to say matters to you personally.  You don’t have to agree with their opinion, but their spiritual condition obviously matters to you or you wouldn’t bother trying.

 2 – Go out of your way to share with the Mormon what Jesus did for you today.  Use scripture to back it up.  Show them how you applied that scripture to make it a personal message from the Lord to you.  Teach them how to read the Bible as a personal letter from God to them personally.

 3 – Invite them to non-threatening events at your church, i.e. women’s teas, men’s breakfasts, dessert theaters, etc. Let them be around Christian ‘things’ as much as possible, i.e., the cross, Bibles that usually lay around churches, actual people inside the church building in the daytime if possible during the week, etc.

 4 – Listen to Christian music while they’re around you so they can hear the words.  Most Christian hymns and songs contain scripture.  Isaiah 55:11 says His words will not return void.

 5 – Have your Bible open to various passages of scripture when they visit.

 6 – Make sure you’re the one that does the praying if the occasion arises and grab their hand to hold it during prayer.  Never fold your arms while praying with a Mormon and don’t allow them to do the praying.  They are not praying to the true God of the Bible, therefore this isn’t something you’d want to submit yourself to either.

 7 – Ask them various questions about their church.  As you know this may cause animosity at some point but it does give them something to think about.  Ask why they have to store food when Jesus told us in the Bible not to worry about tomorrow when it has troubles of its own – Matthew 6:34.  Who is more credible to them personally – Joseph and the living prophet or Jesus Christ; then ask why.

 8 – Ask what their favorite verse is in the Book of Mormon and why.  Tell them you’ve learned the major tenets of Mormonism are not in the Book of Mormon and ask if this is true.  If they say they are, prod them by asking what is in it and where specifically the teaching is located.

 9 – Ask why they don’t have crosses in their homes or wear them in a necklace.  Ask how they feel about the cross and share with them what the cross means to you personally.

 10 – Ask them why God would need Satan to fulfill his plan for mankind. 2 Nephi 2:11; “For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad…”  This is actually a basic tenet within Witchcraft.  Witchcraft believes there must be an equal balance in all things; good for bad and bad for good.  In other words, yin yang.

 11 – Ask them why the book of Jacob says not to practice polygamy but the Doctrine and Covenants says it means exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom (their highest kingdom of heaven).  Jacob 2:24; D&C 132:4-7.

 12 – Ask for their opinion about D&C 1:37 which says the commandments in that book are true and everything will be fulfilled.  Polygamy was outlawed in 1890.

 13 – Ask how dead people can repent.  How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?  Why did Jesus say “It is finished” in John 19:30?  How can dead people work for their salvation?

                                               D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.”

 14 – Ask what they think of the following information;

 2 Nephi 9:9 describes Satan.  “…yea, to that being that who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself into an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness”.

 1976 Introductory page of Doctrine & Covenants describes Moroni.  “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

 Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed …” (A note to the Christian:  the heavenly messenger Smith is talking about is Moroni, an angel of light.)

 Matthew 26:31-4; “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night…Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.” – Also see 2 Cor. 11:14.

 15 – Ask the Mormon why they have to be baptized at the age of 8 for the remission of sins if they are considered to be without sin until then.  Moroni 8:9-13.

 D&C 68:27; “And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.”

 16 – Ask why the Book of Mormon says the earth was covered in darkness for 3 days at the crucifixion of Jesus.  1 Nephi 19:10; Helaman 14:20, 27; 3 Nephi 8:3.  Compare with Matthew 27:45.  Mormons will tell you earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, lasted for 3 hours and then the darkness lasted for 3 days.  The Bible says no such thing.

 17 – Ask your Mormon loved one if they fully accept the Bible.  The answer to this question varies from person to person.  If there is some hesitation to full acceptance ask why and then offer help to investigate reliable sources outside the LDS Church to find out which scriptures have not been translated correctly.

 18 – Ask the Mormon: “if you died tonight would you go to heaven?”  Most if not all will say they don’t know.  Share your favorite passages from the Bible on how you have assurance of salvation.

 19 – Have you told your Mormon friend who Jesus is from the Bible?  Have you told them He is God incarnate & also prophesied about in the Old Testament 333 times?  Look for other interesting facts about the Bible to share.  These types of things are typically non-threatening.  If they say he is the god of this world show them 2 Cor. 4:4.

 20 –Do a simple Bible study with them just on Isaiah chapter 53.  There are 48 prophecies of Jesus in that one chapter alone and each of them has been fulfilled!  LDS doctrines teach some of these prophecies are about Joseph Smith.

 Also see How to Witness http://www.lifeafter.org/how_to_witness.asp

 Life After Ministries ©

Leading Mormons to the Real Jesus Christ  …

1 Cor. 1:18; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”

 michelle@lifeafter.org

www.lifeafter.org

 

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mormon_missionaries We receive countless e-mails and phone calls on a daily basis asking us how to witness to a friend or loved one in Mormonism.  While I’ve numbered the tips below for witnessing it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re in order of importance.

With that said, it’s important to remember everything listed will be a totally new experience to the Mormon.  When I converted to Christianity I was a few months shy of my thirtieth birthday, and quickly learned every single thing I had known up until that time, was a lie.

Our new and updated version of ‘How to Witness to a Mormon’ is a result of PowerPoint presentations given at churches. The majority of it comes from copious note taking while listening to, and watching dozens of audio, and video tapes Dr. Walter Martin (1928-1969) produced during his long, and industrious career.

To say those working in the counter-cult movement owes a debt of gratitude for his work, would not be an overstatement whatsoever. Many have heralded him as the father of the counter-cult movement.

One comment he made always gives me pause, and has reminded me on a number of occasions to be dilegent in witnessing to those who don’t know our Lord.

‘The cults are the unpaid bills of the body of Christ.’

We’re listing the same first 12 points from our presentations, and 20 helps for friends and loved ones, thereafter.

POINT #1                                               POINT #2          

witnessing-2016-1 witnessing-2016-2

 

POINT #3                                                    POINT #4

witnessing-to-mormons-3                       witnessing-to-mormons-4-0

POINT #5                                                  POINT #6

witnessing-to-mormons-5-0                      witnessing-to-mormons-6-0

POINT #7                                              POINT #8

witnessing-to-mormons-7                     witnessing-to-mormons-8

POINT #9                                              POINT #10      

witnessing-to-mormons-9                        witnessing-to-mormons-10

POINT #11                                            POINT#12

witnessing-to-mormons-11                          witnessing-to-mormons-12

20 Helps for Mormon Friends and Loved Ones

20-helps 1 – Word studies.  See if your Mormon friends would be interested in doing a word study with you!  These are great for the new ex-Mormon as well as for the Mormon.  Just pick your favorite word/topic from the Bible, find all the places in the Bible where this word is used to get the full context and share with each other what you’ve learned.  Make sure you both use a reputable concordance and dictionary.  Also let them know their opinion counts, that what they have to say matters to you personally.  You don’t have to agree with their opinion, but their spiritual condition obviously matters to you or you wouldn’t bother trying.

2 – Go out of your way to share with the Mormon what Jesus did for you today.  Use scripture to back it up.  Show them how you applied that scripture to make it a personal message from the Lord to you.  Teach them how to read the Bible as a personal letter from God to them personally.

3 – Invite them to non-threatening events at your church, i.e. women’s teas, men’s breakfasts, dessert theaters, etc. Let them be around Christian ‘things’ as much as possible, i.e., the cross, Bibles that usually lay around churches, actual people inside the church building in the daytime if possible during the week, etc.

4 – Listen to Christian music while they’re around you so they can hear the words.  Most Christian hymns and songs contain scripture.  Isaiah 55:11 says His words will not return void.

5 – Have your Bible open to various passages of scripture when they visit.

6 – Make sure you’re the one that does the praying if the occasion arises and grab their hand to hold it during prayer.  Never fold your arms while praying with a Mormon and don’t allow them to do the praying.  They are not praying to the true God of the Bible, therefore this isn’t something you’d want to submit yourself to either.

7 – Ask them various questions about their church.  As you know this may cause animosity at some point but it does give them something to think about.  Ask why they have to store food when Jesus told us in the Bible not to worry about tomorrow when it has troubles of its own – Matthew 6:34.  Who is more credible to them personally – Joseph and the living prophet or Jesus Christ; then ask why.

8 – Ask what their favorite verse is in the Book of Mormon and why.  Tell them you’ve learned the major tenets of Mormonism are not in the Book of Mormon and ask if this is true.  If they say they are, prod them by asking what is in it and where specifically the teaching is located.

9 – Ask why they don’t have crosses in their homes or wear them in a necklace.  Ask how they feel about the cross and share with them what the cross means to you personally.

10 – Ask them why God would need Satan to fulfill his plan for mankind. 2 Nephi 2:11; “For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad…”  This is actually a basic tenet within Witchcraft.  Witchcraft believes there must be an equal balance in all things; good for bad and bad for good.  In other words, yin yang.

11 – Ask them why the book of Jacob says not to practice polygamy but the Doctrine and Covenants says it means exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom (their highest kingdom of heaven).  Jacob 2:24; D&C 132:4-7.

12 – Ask for their opinion about D&C 1:37 which says the commandments in that book are true and everything will be fulfilled.  Polygamy was outlawed in 1890.

13 – Ask how dead people can repent.  How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?  Why did Jesus say “It is finished” in John 19:30?  How can dead people work for their salvation?

D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.”

 14 – Ask what they think of the following information;

2 Nephi 9:9 describes Satan.  “…yea, to that being that who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself into an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness”.

1976 Introductory page of Doctrine & Covenants describes Moroni.  “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed …” (A note to the Christian:  the heavenly messenger Smith is talking about is Moroni, an angel of light.)

Matthew 26:31-4; “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night…Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.” – Also see 2 Cor. 11:14.

15 – Ask the Mormon why they have to be baptized at the age of 8 for the remission of sins if they are considered to be without sin until then.  Moroni 8:9-13.

D&C 68:27; “And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.”

16 – Ask why the Book of Mormon says the earth was covered in darkness for 3 days at the crucifixion of Jesus.  1 Nephi 19:10; Helaman 14:20, 27; 3 Nephi 8:3.  Compare with Matthew 27:45.  Mormons will tell you earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, lasted for 3 hours and then the darkness lasted for 3 days.  The Bible says no such thing.

17 – Ask your Mormon loved one if they fully accept the Bible.  The answer to this question varies from person to person.  If there is some hesitation to full acceptance ask why and then offer help to investigate reliable sources outside the LDS Church to find out which scriptures have not been translated correctly.

18 – Ask the Mormon: “if you died tonight would you go to heaven?”  Most if not all will say they don’t know.  Share your favorite passages from the Bible on how you have assurance of salvation.

19 – Have you told your Mormon friend who Jesus is from the Bible?  Have you told them He is God incarnate & also prophesied about in the Old Testament 333 times?  Look for other interesting facts about the Bible to share.  These types of things are typically non-threatening.  If they say he is the god of this world show them 2 Cor. 4:4.

20 –Do a simple Bible study with them just on Isaiah chapter 53.  There are 48 prophecies of Jesus in that one chapter alone and each of them has been fulfilled!  LDS doctrines teach some of these prophecies are about Joseph Smith.

Life After Ministries ©

Leading Mormons to the Real Jesus Christ  …

1 Cor. 1:18; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”

michelle@lifeafter.org

www.lifeafter.org

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Holy Week:  Do you know what it means?

      I can’t believe Easter is just around the corner!  Spring is my favorite time of year for a few reasons; but ultimately it reminds me of the new life I have in Christ.

     Because of what Jesus has done for all of us, we can start anew.  Just as spring is a new beginning to the world around us, we can have a new beginning in our lives when we ask Jesus into our hearts.  Last year when I was newly out of the LDS Church I didn’t give much thought to Holy Week. As a Mormon, my family celebrated on Easter Sunday, and that was it.  There was no special Sunday service at church and no real acknowledgment of why this is such a special time of year.  As part of my growth as a new Christian and walk with the Lord, I wanted to take the time to learn about Holy Week and share what I learn with all of you.

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January 1 – We begin the year by reading about the end of Jesus’ life on earth.  John 19:30 simply says; “It is finished”. 

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For the Christian this scripture comes as a comfort knowing nothing else needs to be done for our salvation.  Our Lord accomplished it all by giving His life as a ransom for ours.

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To the Mormon the scripture has absolutely no significance other than Jesus’ earthly ministry was over with.  Ask them why He would have chosen those words to be His last.  Gospel Doctrine, pg. 449 – Joseph F. Smith

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December 26 –  1 Corinthians 1:18; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”

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This verse has always been my call to arms so to speak.  The Mormon cannot stand talking about the cross so the more I engage them in conversation, the more I bring up the subject of the cross.  I like to show them this verse and then 1 Cor. 15:1-5; they soon see they are without excuse and besides once again, it gives them something to think about.

If you’re a Christian you worship a God not confined to a man made grave.  You worship a God who raised His dead Son and brought Him back to life.

There are so many biblical references to sacrifices needing to be made for man’s sin and each of them are a foreshadowing of what was to come through God’s own sacrifice of His Son.  Why would the Garden of Gethsemane qualify?  And where in scripture can we see that the Garden of Gethsemane would fulfill the sacrifice God demanded for righteousness?  These are the questions I would ask the Mormon.

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“GREATEST SUFFERING WAS IN GETHSEMANE. We speak of the passion of Jesus Christ. A great many people have an idea that when he was on the cross, and nails were driven into his hands and feet, that was his great suffering. His great suffering was before he ever was placed upon the cross. It was in the Garden of Gethsemane that the blood oozed from the pores of his body: “Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit-and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink,” That was not when he was on the cross; that was in the garden. That is where he bled from every pore in his body.”  Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 3 vols. 1: 130.

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I have to say it’s always an interesting day when the LDS Church builds a new temple.  The link below will take you to a quick little video of how the new temple will look.  One of our volunteers alerted me to look closely at the graphic when the video gets to 1:58.  Take a close look at the front door my friends!  Is that a cross???

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