Posts Tagged ‘Jaredites’


 This dilemma comes from the 2nd installment of our series the Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon.  Take a look at what the Book of Mormon teaches about the Tower of Babylon and what God says in His word.  The two examples couldn’t be more contradictory of each other.


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 June 13 – Where’s the Great Jaredite Nation? Acts 20:28-30 “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.”


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August 21 – Stones Molten from Rocks. 1 Samuel 5:1, 6; “And the Philistines took the ark of God, and brought it from Eben-ezer unto Ashdod. 6 But the hand of the LORD was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them with emerods, even Ashdod and the coasts thereof.”


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June 13 – Joseph Smith’s False Prophecy The Greatest Nation. Acts 20:28-30; “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.” (more…)

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May 7 – “Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.”  Gen. 6:8-9.


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August 21 – Stones Molten from Rocks. 1 Samuel 5:1, 6; “And the Philistines took the ark of God, and brought it from Eben-ezer unto Ashdod. 6 But the hand of the LORD was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them with emerods, even Ashdod and the coasts thereof.”


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Witnessing Tip of the Day June 01June 13 – Joseph Smith’s False Prophecy. Acts 20:28-30; “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.”


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BoMHelaman 6:28; “And also it is that same being who put it into the hearts of the people to build a tower sufficiently high that they might getGolden plates & Joseph Smith to heaven. And it was that same being who led on the people who came from that tower into this land; who spread the works of darkness and abominations over all the face of the land, until he dragged the people down to an entire destruction, and to an everlasting hell.”

Ether 1:42; “And when thou hast done this thou shalt go at the head of them down into the valley which is northward. And there will I meet thee, and I will go before thee into a land which is choice above all the lands of the earth.”


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Mormon Decisions 10Ether 9:18; “And also all manner of cattle, of oxen, and cows, and of sheep, and of swine, and of goats, and also many other kinds of animals which were useful for the food of man.”




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Mormon Decisions 10Ether 4:18; “Therefore, repent all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me, and believe in my gospel, and be baptized in my name; for he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned; and signs shall follow them that believe in my name.”



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Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 12:340; “They entered these eight barges, about the construction of which it may be well to say a few words. A great many opposers of the Book of Mormon, in reading the account of these vessels, have really supposed that there was an insurmountable difficulty connected with the building of these barges because there happened to be a hole in the top, and another hole constructed in the bottom to enable the beings shut up in them to be watertight…


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Old-Testament-Gospel-Doctrine-Teachers-Manual-35570000The LDS OT Sunday school lesson for week six made me feel like I was in elementary school once again.  The way the Church presents their lessons have been a source of wonder for Melissa and me once we got going on these things and the reason why is because of their material.


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Reformed Egyptian

Mormon Decisions 10Mormon 9:32; “And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.”

Hosea 2:17; “For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.”


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History Lessons from the Bible

Ether 15:34; “Now the last words which are written by Ether are these: Whether the Lord will that I be translated, or that I suffer the will of the Lord in the flesh, it mattereth not, if it so be that I am saved in the kingdom of God. Amen.”


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This dilemma comes from the 2nd installment of our series the Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon.  Take a look at what the Book of Mormon teaches about the Tower of Babylon and what God says in His word.  The two examples couldn’t be more contradictory of each other.


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March 19 – Numbers 14:25; “(Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites dwelt in the valley).  To morrow turn you, and get you into the wilderness by the way of the Red Sea”. 


Use this verse as a geography lesson for the Mormon.  There has never been a river that empties into the Red Sea.  It is surrounded by wilderness (desert) only.


1 Nephi 2:8; “And it came to pass that he called the name of the river, Laman, and it emptied into the Red Sea; and the valley was in the borders near the mouth thereof.”

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Interesting Facts about the 3 – in – 1 – Part 3

      3-in-1We’re taking a deeper look at the claims of the Triple Combination for the sake of the Mormons as well as the Christians!  So here we go with the third installment of Interesting Facts about the Triple Combination.

 What’s in a Name – again!

 2 Nephi 10:3;

 “Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name.

False Promises

      I asked a few friends to help me count how many verses they could find containing Greek words in the Book of Mormon.  Thanks to everyone’s help we came up with the discovery of several Greek words which appeared in 752 verses throughout the BC era of the Book of Mormon!  The reason for pointing this out is twofold.  First of all why were Greek words being used in the BC era?

Secondly, Smith publicly proclaimed the Book of Mormon contained no such thing!  In Times & Seasons 4:194 it says;

 “There was no Greek or Latin upon the plates from which I, through the grace of God, translated the Book of Mormon Let the language of that book speak for itself.”

      Whenever I am reminded of this scenario I think of what the Apostle Paul told the Galatians in 1:6-9;

 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

      “Why or better yet how, could you not question these things?”  This is the question I receive from Christians all the time when writing in to ask why their loved one has fallen into the trap of Mormonism.  With all of the evidence of plagiarism, lies, and improbabilities, it is amazing that people do not question.  When I was LDS I remember seeing these things and then blaming myself for not understanding or for questioning the Church.  Remember though one of the other things the Apostle Paul warned us about in Ephesians 6:11-12;

 “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 Eve Praises God for Their Sin

      The contradictions found in LDS theology run rampant in regards to the subject of sin.  The average Mormon truly believes two things that are diametrically opposed to what God declares.  1 – Man is inherently evil.  2 – They believe it was necessary that Adam & Eve sin.

     As you dig deeper into Mormon theology, you can easily see how they keep members confused.  The following two examples are found in the Pearl of Great Price.  As you can see in the first example they are lauding Eve’s choice and in another instance they are being taught that by sinning you are choosing to be separated from God.

 Moses 5:11; “And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

 Moses 6:48-50; “And as Enoch spake forth the words of God, the people trembled, and could not stand in his presence.  48 And he said unto them: Because that Adam fell, we are; and by his fall came death; and we are made partakers of misery and woe.  49 Behold Satan hath come among the children of men, and tempteth them to worship him; and men have become carnal, sensual, and devilish, and are shut out from the presence of God.  50 But God hath made known unto our fathers that all men must repent.

      Compare this with what the Bible says in Romans 3:23;

 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

      Also see Rom. 5:12;

 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”

 The Making of Mankind

      Moses 2:27;

 “And I, God, created man in mine own image, in the image of mine Only Begotten created I him; male and female created I them.”

      If God created male and female after His own image and God is an exalted man as they claim in D&C 130:22, would this mean that God is also an exalted woman?

 Timeliness is of the Utmost Importance…

 Abraham 3:24 says;

 “And there stood one among them that was like unto God, and he said unto those who were with him: We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell.

      Where exactly is “down there”?  Wouldn’t that mean there was already something down there that had been created and if so, wouldn’t that contradict Abraham 3:22 which says;

 “Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones.

 Packing Your Bags…Travel Itineraries for Nephites & Jaredites

      First Nephi tells us about the travels of the prophet Lehi and his sons, one of which is Nephi of course.

     Is it reasonable that Lehi and his family could have left Jerusalem and walked 210 miles in three days to get to the Red Sea?  See 1 Nephi 2:4-7.

     Also note 1 Nephi 2:6, 8 which tells us Nephi & company traveled 3 days in the wilderness to get to the Red Sea and then set up camp next to a river called Laman.

 1 – Most travelers in those days could travel roughly 15 miles on a really good day’s travel.  The distance between the northern tip of the Red Sea to Jerusalem is approximately 153 miles.  That’s roughly ten or so days and as you can see Nephi said he did it in three.  Is this really possible?

2 – There has never been a river that has emptied into the Red Sea; even to this day.  There are and have been canals built for shipping for the past 200-300 years, but no rivers.

      The story in Nephi would be considered a false prophecy.  I realize this is “tough language”; but we need to be honest here and call it what it is – a lie.  A good concise map and data can be found at www.encyclopedia.com for info on this subject.

     In the book of Ether we find Jared, his family and friends building and then packing their boat for the trip to the Promised Land.  There are several items of note within this text that we could spend a good amount of time in, however let’s just look at a few interesting “facts”.

 In Ether 2:2 it says;

 “And they did also lay snares and catch fowls of the air; and they did also prepare a vessel, in which they did carry with them the fish of the waters.

      If they’re going to be sailing for a bit of time, why would they need to pack fish?  Noah was out on the waters for about 370 days and the Bible doesn’t mention one thing about him packing fish of any kind to take with him.  See Gen. 7:11-13 & Gen. 8:14-15 for length of time Noah was on the Ark.

     Didn’t they (the Jaredites) have any food?  If they didn’t need to eat the fish, where were they kept – an aquarium?

 Ether 2:18-20 says;

 “And it came to pass that the brother of Jared cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord, I have performed the work which thou hast commanded me, and I have made the barges according as thou hast directed me.  19 And behold, O Lord, in them there is no light; whither shall we steer? And also we shall perish, for in them we cannot breathe, save it is the air which is in them; therefore we shall perish.  20 And the Lord said unto the brother of Jared: Behold, thou shalt make a hole in the top, and also in the bottom; and when thou shalt suffer for air thou shalt unstop the hole and receive air. And if it be so that the water come in upon thee, behold, ye shall stop the hole, that ye may not perish in the flood.

      Why didn’t the Lord remember to put air holes in the “barges” so they could breathe and why was there a “plug” in the bottom of the boat?  How could air come into the boat if you’re using the plug in the bottom?  Wouldn’t only water be coming through?

 Why was there an Apostasy?

      3 Nephi 28:1-18 is the account of when Jesus told three of the Nephites they would never die.  (Also see “This is My Gospel, Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual”, pg. 185)*

     Here we have a few people wandering the earth with the “truth” and no one intervenes to warn the Christians they were falling into an apostasy?

     The history of Joseph Smith in 1:19 says that God told Joseph not to join any of the churches, for they were all wrong.

 Joseph Smith History 1:19; “I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

      For a concise explanation of what the Church considers to be “the Apostasy” see what the Apostle Bruce McConkie said in Mormon Doctrine, pg. 699;

 “Existence of the sects of Christendom is proof positive of the universal apostasy. Truth is one; Christ is not divided; those who enjoy the Spirit, all speak the same things; there are no divisions among them; but they are “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” (1 Cor. 1:10-13.) When Joseph Smith retired to the Sacred Grove, it was to ask the Lord which of all the sects was right and which he should join. The answer: “I must join none of them, for they were all wrong.” (Jos. Smith 2:14-20.)

      Of course we know this is nothing but lies.  Jesus promises us in Matthew 16:18 that His church will always stand the test of time!

 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

    Dietary Laws for the People of the Book of Mormon

      It is difficult at best to believe the Jewish people wouldn’t know or understand Torah.  The life of a typical Israelite is lived obeying and observing it.  The country they lived in or traveled through wouldn’t matter; they knew the Law just as much as you and I know the pledge of allegiance as it was ingrained in them from one generation to the next.

 About Wine:

      This first example puzzles me because here we have a direct example of how to take the Lord’s Supper using wine.  Apparently this wasn’t a sin, but now it is?  Also note how they prayed in the name of the Eternal Father.  The god of Mormonism isn’t eternal.

 Moroni 5:1-2;

 “The manner of administering the wine—Behold, they took the cup, and said:  2 O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee, in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this wine to the souls of all those who drink of it, that they may do it in remembrance of the blood of thy Son, which was shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.

 About Raw Meat:

 1 Nephi 17:2;

 “And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men; and they began to bear their journeyings without murmurings.

 1 Nephi 17:12;

 “For the Lord had not hitherto suffered that we should make much fire, as we journeyed in the wilderness; for he said: I will make thy food become sweet, that ye cook it not.

 Lev. 7:26-27;

 “Moreover ye shall eat no manner of blood, whether it be of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings. 27 Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

 Lev. 19:26;

 “Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

 About Swine:

 Ether 9:18;

 “And also all manner of cattle, of oxen, and cows, and of sheep, and of swine, and of goats, and also many other kinds of animals which were useful for the food of man.

 Leviticus 11:7-8; “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

How Did Ammon Know to Quote Jesus in 90 BC?

Alma 19:10;

 “And Ammon said unto her: Blessed art thou because of thy exceeding faith; I say unto thee, woman, there has not been such great faith among all the people of the Nephites.

      It’s obvious that Smith is plagiarizing Jesus.  How would someone in Mesoamerica know to say something like this 120 years before it was said by Jesus Himself in Luke 7:9;

 “When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

Personal Injuries

 1 N 4:19-21;

 “And after I had smitten off his head with his own sword, I took the garments of Laban and put them upon mine own body; yea, even every whit; and I did gird on his armor about my loins.  20 And after I had done this, I went forth unto the treasury of Laban. And as I went forth towards the treasury of Laban, behold, I saw the servant of Laban who had the keys of the treasury. And I commanded him in the voice of Laban, that he should go with me into the treasury.  21 And he supposed me to be his master, Laban, for he beheld the garments and also the sword girded about my loins.

      Notice there was no mention of any blood found upon the body of Nephi from the beheading of Laban…Alma 44:12-16;

 “And now when Moroni had said these words, Zerahemnah retained his sword, and he was angry with Moroni, and he rushed forward that he might slay Moroni; but as he raised his sword, behold, one of Moroni’s soldiers smote it even to the earth, and it broke by the hilt; and he also smote Zerahemnah that he took off his scalp and it fell to the earth…16 Now it came to pass that Zerahemnah was exceedingly wroth, and he did stir up the remainder of his soldiers to anger, to contend more powerfully against the Nephites.

      Zerhemnah gets scalped and all it says is that he’s “wroth”?  I would imagine that I’d be a little more than angry if I got scalped.

 Twelve years of war and not one person died… really?  Alma 56:56;

 “But behold, to my great joy, there had not one soul of them fallen to the earth; yea, and they had fought as if with the strength of God; yea, never were men known to have fought with such miraculous strength; and with such mighty power did they fall upon the Lamanites, that they did frighten them; and for this cause did the Lamanites deliver themselves up as prisoners of war.

Living Under Law

    The following verse in the Doctrine and Covenants make me absolutely heart sick for the Mormon people and angry with the leadership that will not tell the truth about God.  Memories of my mother working herself almost to death for the sake of a false gospel has left me baffled on many an occasion.

     If we were to work under the Law then why pray tell even bother with the Jesus side of things?

 D&C 132:32;

 “Go ye, therefore, and do the works of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.

      There are two passages of scripture that keep coming to mind whenever I read this in the Mormon “scripture”.  Romans 4:2-3 and Galatians 2:20-21;

 “For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

 “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      Clearly we are living under grace now, if you’ve accepted the Messiah actually delivered on His promises that is.  The scripture is also very clear about living under the Law:

 Galatians 5:3-4; “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 Romans 5:19; “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

      Notice how Paul said that by one man’s obedience.  This demonstrates it isn’t by your works or my works, it is by one person’s obedience, that being Jesus Christ.


     The list of discrepancies, contradictions and outright lies are many in the teachings of the LDS Church, so when I’m going through my list of what to publish for these articles, I am trying to just pull out the most prevalent.  This particular subject matter caught my attention because of its levity.

     When we take communion it is a very serious event for those of us who participate in it.  In fact the Apostle Paul said this in 1 Cor. 11:26-27 regarding the Lord’s Supper;

 “For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.

      I could go on and on about the elements of bread & wine or juice in the Christian churches vs. the “Wonderbread” and water the LDS Church uses and the way they administer it with everyone just eating and drinking at their own will, but that’s for another time…

     The LDS Church ascribes to the teachings of Joseph Smith by observing the perfunctory ordinances at each and every event, but I am left to wonder why they haven’t changed their “scripture” for this one.

     D&C 20:58 says;

 “But neither teachers nor deacons have authority to baptize, administer the sacrament, or lay on hands.”

      This must have been a pretty important rule if Smith thought enough of it to make it “scripture”, so I have to ask the proverbial “why” on this one.  Mormon Doctrine pg. 361 says this about the deacons and sacrament;

 “Twelve-year-old LDS males usually receive the Aaronic Priesthood and are ordained deacons, continuing in that priesthood office until age fourteen. Deacons receive assignments from their bishops that may include distributing the Sacrament to the congregation, serving as messengers, collecting fast offerings, providing assistance to the elderly or disabled, and caring for the meetinghouse and grounds.

      Again, please know that we don’t publish our findings or write these articles to bash or demean the Mormon people.  We love the people dearly and our prayer is that they will come to know the real Jesus Christ of the Bible who died for them.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

 *The following “note” appears at the end of page 185 in Gospel Doctrines Teachers Manual.  It’s interesting how they teach their members to keep secret about things and to not discuss them amongst each other.  Could it be they might logically come to the conclusion this was a fabricated story?  “Note: Stories often circulate about the three Nephites who were translated. Members of the Church should be careful about accepting or retelling these stories. You should not discuss them in class.”

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 Over five years ago I wrote an article entitled ‘Demonic and Ungodly Names in the Book of Mormon’.  Since then I have been asked by numerous people to write more on this particular subject so here it is!

‘Back by popular demand’as they say,  I went through my old notes and found some other names I think would be of interest to the Mormon, and non-Mormon alike. There were more than 50 names of people and/or places contradicting what Biblical accounts report. Here are just a few of them.


 The name of Chemish so closely resembles the name of Chemosh from the Bible, it’s hard to ignore. In Mormonism the name Chemish belongs to the brother of Ameleki. These two brothers and others, were responsible for writing the book of Omni in the Book of Mormon.

 The official LDS website search engine says this about Chemish:

 The book of Omni: A book translated from the small plates of Nephi in the Book of Mormon. The book has only a single chapter, which contains an account of the wars among the Nephites and Lamanites. Omni wrote only the first three verses of the book. The plates were then passed in turn to Amaron, Chemish, Abinadom, and finally Amaleki.  And it came to pass that I did deliver the plates unto my brother Chemish. He delivered the plates to King Benjamin, king of Zarahemla…”


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Studying the Book of Mormon Part 4

The Letters of Jarom, Omni and Words of Mormon

Jarom 1:1; “Now behold, I, Jarom, write a few words according to the commandment of my father, Enos, that our genealogy may be kept.

Omni 1:1; “Behold, it came to pass that I, Omni, being commanded by my father, Jarom, that I should write somewhat upon these plates, to preserve our genealogy—

This time we’ve used two verses as our synopsis for this study.  The first thing that popped out to me for each book was the commandments given by fallible men to write scripture.  This means they weren’t written as they were moved upon by the Holy Ghost; they are not God-breathed – theopneustos.   A stark contrast to this is what the Apostle Peter describes to us in his second epistle to the Jewish believers.

2 Peter 1:20-21; “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

We find that Jarom is the son of Enos and yet again nothing is shared with the reader about their relationship other than his father commanded him to write something.  Jarom tells us in the second verse there’s really nothing to share because everything’s already been said.  What he does share is compacted into one chapter.  On the surface it may seem there’s not a lot going on in the book of Jarom, but friends that’s not the case!

In 1:4, Jarom lets us know there “are many among us who have many revelations” and those who accepted them have communion with the Holy Spirit.  This obviously causes concern because at the time of his writing it’s 399 BC.  Unfortunately, there is nothing of substance giving us detailed descriptions of what the people are doing and why.

Maybe there’s nothing to share because nothing is there…

Just four verses later we’re again faced with the situation of inventions being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  In this particular verse Jarom claims his people were very skilled in the use of “machinery, iron, copper, and brass and steel”.  He also claims the Nephites were using “tools of every kind to till the ground and weapons of war…”  Ironically, he doesn’t tell us what they’ve made or why they needed tools to begin with.

Here is an excerpt from an article I wrote on the artifacts from the Book of Mormon.  I researched a total of eighteen questionable items and documented my findings. 

According to the Wikipedia website on the history of ancient steel it says;

“Some of the first steel comes from East Africa, dating back to 1400 BC.[10] In the 4th century BC steel weapons like the Falcata were produced in the Iberian Peninsula, while Noric steel was used by the Roman military.”  (22)

The article goes on to say this about modern steel making in America;

“The modern era in steelmaking began with the introduction of Henry Bessemer’s Bessemer process in 1858[20]. This enabled steel to be produced in large quantities cheaply, so that mild steel is now used for most purposes for which wrought iron was formerly used.

There doesn’t seem to be getting around this one!  How would the Nephites have the knowhow to make this type of steel here in America circa BC 420?  Another great website on the history of steel making can be found at the link below.


Click here for the entire article http://www.lifeafter.org/artifacts.asp

Jarom claimed in verse ten the “prophets of the Lord did threaten the people of Nephi, according to the word of God”, and if they didn’t behave, they’d be wiped off the earth.

I don’t remember any place in the Old Testament where God “threatens” his people.  Does He warn and exhort?  Absolutely!  Threaten?  No, He does not.  As a matter of fact, the word “threaten” appears only two times in the KJV and they’re both found in the New Testament.  

I find the context of how this was used to be very interesting as well.  Notice in the first example that it’s those with hatred towards Jesus’ disciples who threaten and in the second example, it explicitly says Jesus didn’t threaten those who reviled Him.

Acts 4:21; “So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for all men glorified God for that which was done.

1 Peter 2:23; “Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.

In each case we find both Jesus and the followers paying attention to nothing but God.  Our focus always is to be upon Him who loves us.  The Lord doesn’t threaten anyone.  He gives us commandments to obey and when we don’t then there are consequences. 

To threaten is “to be a menace or a source of danger”.  (www.dictionary.com)  

Is that how you see God?

One of the most important questions I have about the Book of Mormon is why God would allow a self proclaimed “wicked man” to author his holy writ.  Does it make sense a holy, righteous God would convey His thoughts through an evil person in this manner?  

Do the words of Omni’s son Amaron sound like they’re from God? 

Omni 1:5; “Behold, it came to pass that three hundred and twenty years had passed away, and the more wicked part of the Nephites were destroyed.

Here we see the Nephites grammar problem isn’t an isolated incident.  There are literally dozens of other examples of verses just like this that sound eerily similar.

After four verses Omni tells us he passed the plates on to his son Amaron and just four verses after that Amaron passes them on to his brother Chemish.  After Chemish wrote two verses the plates were then passed to his son Abinadom. 

Abinadom tells us he took the lives of many Lamanites before he passed the plates on to his son Amaleki. So in the course of thirteen verses a total of five people had written about the horrible Lamanites and many people had been killed.  No specifics on how the Nephites trusted in the Lord except they knew they were moved “by the arm of the Lord”.

Exactly, what is the “arm of the Lord”?

At some point the Nephites had been moved down to the wilderness into the land of Zarahemla and it was there they discovered another people group called “the people of Zarahemla”.  The text tells us nothing in particular about these people except that they “rejoiced exceedingly because the Lord had sent the people of Mosiah with the plates of brass which contained the record of the Jews”.

Finally, in Omni 1:15 the author tells us these people had escaped Jerusalem during the time of King Zedekiah and had also sailed across the “great waters” to settle in the Promised Land, yet didn’t believe in God.  These Jews apparently hadn’t taken any writings with them. 

They seemed to have the same problem the Nephites and Lamanites had incurred while in the Americas.  They too had a huge population growth with many wars, serious “contentions” and a language corruption.  While not stating what language these people of Zarahemla were using, the text tells us that Mosiah taught them his language. 

After learning the language of Mosiah, the people of Zarahemla told them of their genealogy, but it’s not written down anywhere.

This one thing alone should send loud siren like warnings to the Mormon people.  For the Jews one of the most important things in life was to know which tribe you came from.  Belonging to a certain tribe indicated what you’d be doing in life.  Ironically, living on this side of the cross means genealogy has no part in your life.  When we’re in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek.  With the way they keep ancestral records today, you’d think the Book of Mormon would say something about this.  Once again, they have things backwards.

Apparently “the people of Zarahemla” also discovered a people group who sailed over the oceans at the time of the tower of Babylon.  The Zarahemla people gave a stone to Mosiah that had engravings on it and he interpreted it for them (1:20).  The story on this engraved rock was about someone named “Corinatumr and the slain of his people”. (Omni 1:21)

Again, we see another grammatical problem.  Coriantumr lived with the people of Zarahemla for “the space of nine moons” after his first parents came from Babylon and the Lord confounded their language as a punishment for their behavior.  Don’t expect to hear anything else about these people because as abruptly as he appeared in this letter, his story is done.  There’s nothing else written about Coriantumr. 

The rest of the book of Omni is much like the book of Jarom.  There is a pleading to the Nephites they should come to Christ in 279 BC without explaining who He is and there’s no description of where these people lived or their daily routines. 

The next book is as small as the previous two, but with an added twist.  This book was written circa 385 AD.  The Words of Mormon is another “abridgement” written for the benefit of the readers to better understand how the original books flowed from one to the other.  Got that?  Here’s how the Mormon Church’s website describes the Words of Mormon;


A Book out of Time

The short book called the Words of Mormon was written by the prophet and record keeper Mormon about A.D. 385, more than 500 years after the last writer wrote in the book of Omni. It is Mormon’s explanation for his including the small plates of Nephi with his abridgment of the large plates of Nephi…

Not sure why this was needed or what purpose it served the people back in 385 AD, but it is what it is for the Mormons today.

The prophet Mormon seemed to have the same problem with proper grammar his predecessors were plagued with.  Here’s what he had to say in the beginning of 1:3; 

“And now, I speak somewhat concerning that which I have written…” 

Verse twelve is just as bad;

And now, concerning this king Benjamin—he had somewhat of contentions among his own people.

Here’s my grammatical take on that; Huh?

Why would this guy be writing these things if he knew his people were going to be annihilated?  Does this sound like an inspired word from the Lord?  What purpose does this serve for the Mormon people today in Brigham City or Kearns or Richfield, Utah?

In verse five he made the comment that he couldn’t write the hundredth part of the things of his people and I want to know why.  Why can’t he write even one thing about the Nephites to give us any insight about these people?  Something of substance, anything telling us specifically where they lived or in what manner they worshipped. 

What kind of clothing did they wear? 

What color was their hair? 

Did they sleep on mats or maybe blankets? 

Did they share in a daily communal meal as the Israelites did at the time of Jesus?

How were the false Christs punished for their crimes in 130 BC as it states in verse sixteen?  Or did he mean 385 AD when he wrote this abridgement?

Is there a deeper meaning to the word righteousness as there is in the Greek?  If not, then why?

We will continue to read through the Book of Mormon as Mr. Hinckley suggested, but honestly I just can’t see where any of this would give hope to the Mormon people.  Please, pray with us won’t you that members of the LDS Church will ask God to open their eyes?

With Love in Christ;  Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18  …

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Nephi & Jacob

     In the first part of this study we looked at the reign of Lehi and his son Nephi.  This time we’ll look a little longer at Nephi and then switch over to studying the works and wanderings of his younger brother Jacob who was born in the years of Lehi’s journeys.

     The more I read the Book of Mormon, the more fallacies I see throughout its text.  For the second part of this short study I had originally planned to go straight to the legacy of Nephi’s younger brother Jacob.  However, after thumbing through the text of Second Nephi to convince myself to skip it, I became convicted it needs attention.

     When I go out to speak to youth groups in churches I typically begin my lecture by reading Isaiah 40:8 and then having the students repeat the verse after me.

Isaiah 40:8; “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”

     The one thing above all else I want those kids to remember is that one verse.  If they don’t remember anything that I taught them about Mormons, my goal is to have them memorize Isaiah 40:8.  Sure, I personally feel that it’s important everyone know the dangers of Mormonism.  However, as a Christian I am indebted to God that I teach on the infallibility of His word and His unchangeable ways.  Next year, or maybe in the next century there may not be any Mormonism, but rest assured there will certainly be another “ism” of some kind.

     When we as the body of Christ allow ourselves to slide into an existence of spiritual complacency we will also begin to rearrange and change the meaning of the word of God.  It’s our duty to teach the next generation of His ways else we are held responsible.  It’s also imperative that we “hold fast to that which is good” and remember the Apostle Peter’s exhortation from his second letter to the Jewish believers in Christ:

2 Peter 1:20-21; “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

     With all that in mind let’s open the Book of Mormon to 2 Nephi 1:1 and take a good hard look at what Joseph Smith had to say.  This man is someone to take seriously and I mean that with every fiber of my being.  If we are to ignore or simply brush off someone like this then we endanger not only our eternal lives with God but the whole as well.  The following is what Joseph claims was on the plates of brass hidden in the hills of Cumorah. 

     In the beginning stages of this book we see that Nephi is praising the Lord that he and his family have made it safely to the Promised Land.  In 1:4 he says something that I find truly amazing.  It says; “For, behold, said he, I have seen a vision, in which I know that Jerusalem is destroyed; and had we remained in Jerusalem we should also have perished.”

     The reason this is fascinating is because of what we studied earlier – the reality of what happened to the Jews who did flee to Egypt.  The majority did indeed perish because of their disobedience.  God had issued His commandment through the prophet Jeremiah in chapter 42 verses 7 through 22.  There were only a few that went back to Jerusalem and they were the poorest of the poor Israelites.  None of them had the money that Lehi had. 

And why did Lehi need money if he was going to a place that didn’t have anyone else there, let alone someone who would consent to his form of money and goods?

     What is even more fascinating is what Lehi says in verse five;

But, said he, notwithstanding our afflictions, we have obtained a land of promise, a land which is choice above all other lands; a land which the Lord God hath covenanted with me should be a land for the inheritance of my seed. Yea, the Lord hath covenanted this land unto me, and to my children forever, and also all those who should be led out of other countries by the hand of the Lord.”

     Because they aren’t in Jerusalem anymore, this has to mean that God has changed His mind again or He has lied to all the Israelites, not to mention the rest of the world.  After more than 400 years of captivity and another 40 years wandering in the wilderness, God led His chosen people to the choicest of lands in Canaan.  He gave that land to them as their inheritance for their children’s children.  I dare any Mormon to go tell a Jew that God says the new land of His children is in Mesoamerica and see what kind of reaction you get. 

     I don’t mean any disrespect at all to the Jewish community, please understand.  I am good friends with many Messianic Jews and practicing Orthodox Jews and wouldn’t dream of such a thing.  I personally feel that it’s insulting to God’s chosen people!  This is just one example of why the story that Joseph Smith concocted is a lie. 

     As we go further into this study, we see that Lehi is teaching his son Jacob something that is diametrically opposed to LDS theology.  In 2 Nephi 2:21 it says;

“…For he gave commandment that all men must repent; for he showed unto all men that they were lost, because of the transgression of their parents.” 

     According to LDS doctrine this is what it says in the Second Article of Faith:

We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.

     So if you’re witnessing to a Mormon or if you are LDS I truly pray that you would see things like this and ask God to clear the mind of the Mormon.  God loves the Mormon people, of this I am sure!  The heart of the average Mormon loves Jesus, but it’s death to the soul because it’s the wrong Jesus.  The two examples I’ve just listed above are simple and straightforward.  You don’t have to hold a PhD in anything to understand those two things are contradictory to each other.  And to further confuse the Mormon here is what it says just four verses later in 2 Nephi 2:25;

Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy.

     Of course we know this is a lie because of what the Lord tells us in Gen. 1:27-28 and 2:24-5;

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

     And then we see that it isn’t until Genesis chapter three when Adam and Eve have sinned.  God had sanctioned for the couple to become one flesh and multiply before they had been booted out of the Garden of Eden.  The above LDS doctrine is nothing but a hoax and made something that was created by God Himself into something that could only happen if we’re sinning!

If procreating could only take place while man was in a state of sin, why is it that salvation for the LDS comes only through the new and everlasting covenant of eternal marriage and having babies?

     As we dig still deeper into the cavern of lies, Joseph has revealed to people what was to become of the “Jaredites”.  Beginning in chapter five we’re told that righteous Nephi took a few of his siblings and in-laws with him to escape to the wilderness.  Never mind that God had promised him that particular spot of land forever if he was righteous, he has now packed up his things and they’re leaving.

     This chapter is when the people are separated into the two major people groups that being the Nephites and the dark and loathsome Lamanites.  Nephi’s brothers that continually railed against him were stricken with a “sore cursing” which turned their skin dark.  In addition to this development Nephi was also crowned as king against his own wishes.  2 Nephi 5:18, 21-24;

And it came to pass that they would that I should be their king. But I, Nephi, was desirous that they should have no king; nevertheless, I did for them according to that which was in my power.

And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.  And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.  And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done.  And because of their cursing which was upon them they did become an idle people, full of mischief and subtlety, and did seek in the wilderness for beasts of prey.

     My list of questions and thoughts over the years about this particular passage is extensive as I’m sure the reader’s is as well.  However, I am mostly compelled to ask just one question for now:

Where in the span of the thirty years since they left Israel did the Nephites turn white?

    Generally speaking people from the Middle East aren’t white and delightsome.  Let me rephrase that, they’re usually not white.  And generally speaking from first hand experience, people who aren’t white and delightsome usually aren’t loathsome.  I’ve always been a hard worker, polite and giving to others.  The dictionary says the definition of loathsome is offensive, repellent, detestable, abhorrent and abominable.   I’ve known people much whiter than myself who could use a good scrub brush.  The inference of such remarks is nothing less than racist.  And I really don’t think making excuses for Joseph Smith being raised in the era of slavery is a good enough excuse in God’s eyes for clinging to that character flaw.

     Many times I’ll receive phone calls and/or e-mails chastising me for not understanding the social and political climate of the nineteenth century.  Actually I do understand it; it’s still alive and well in many places throughout the world.  Utah comes to mind pretty fast for me.  When people try to cover for Smith, I introduce them to my husband Kirk.  During the Civil War one of his ancestors took his wife and kids and fled for the north because he knew slavery wasn’t proper.  After settling in and changing his surname he fought for the north.  Don’t tell me Smith did it because he was from the “old school”.  Sin is sin.  It’s without excuse. 

     Moving along, we come upon another direct contradictory teaching within the doctrines of the LDS Church.  You see, I can’t stress enough to those who are investigating the Church for membership that it is vital you check these things out!  The Church has 124 operating temples on the day of this writing, April 27, 2007 –   

http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/operating  There are also six more under construction and another five that have been announced.  My question is:


2 Nephi 9:38 says; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”

     Why would you need temples if Nephi is exhorting his brothers to be righteous before they die so they can receive salvation?  Also read 2 Nephi 9:15-16 which says the same thing! 

Does this mean the Book of Mormon has been mistranslated?

Which book is correct – D&C or Book of Mormon?


     More importantly why do the Mormons go to the temples to be baptized for the dead if there are no second chances?  D&C 124:29-30 says that the saints have to baptize their dead.  If the saints have to do this but not the people before Jesus’ time then why didn’t God just say that to Nephi?

 For the following ten chapters you will notice that Nephi has written down the words of Isaiah.  Why Joseph Smith thought this would fit in with the agenda of LDS doctrine is beyond me, but it is what it is.  In Chapter 19:6 he has quoted verbatim what is in Isaiah 9:6;

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

  Isaiah 9:6; 

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

     Here is where I think the LDS member should look very closely.  In our last look at the life of Nephi we read about Jesus telling the disciples that the Father would send them the Comforter in John 14:16-17.  Now take a good look at all the names given to that one “being” in Isaiah. This is obviously the Trinity, plain and simple.  Now why would Joseph Smith use a scripture out of Isaiah if he didn’t ascribe to the traditional Judeo-Christian view of that particular verse?  The answer is very simple my friends; to deceive.  The report from Nephi telling the people that God is coming in the flesh can also be seen in  2 Ne. 25:12-13.

     Those of us who have witnessed to the Mormon people will tell you that 2 Nephi 25:23 is one of the most contradictory statements in all of the Book of Mormon.  It says;

For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved; after all we can do.

     When we read the words of Paul in Ephesians 2:8-9 we are comforted by his words about salvation and reminded of our blessings from the release of the Law;

 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

     In the LDS doctrine listed above, the last part of the sentence is in bold type to point out the discrepancy between it and what the Bible says.  I implore the members of the Church to analyze that doctrine.  What does it mean to you?  Why does grace play a part in your salvation if you have any part in it?  It’d be like having to invite you to your own birthday party!  Grace is unmerited favor.  We receive grace even though we’re not worthy of grace or salvation for that matter but God in His mercy and love for us grants us that unearned favor.  It’s like a get out of jail free card!

     In 2 Nephi 26:32-33 Nephi is giving his people a list of commandments they are to obey.  Interestingly enough one of those commandments is to not murder because as he states, it is never from God.  Nephi said that God is plain in his commandments and easy to understand.

Why did God tell Nephi to kill Laban but give a commandment at a later time to say that it is a sin and you will die for it?


     The Bible is very clear about lies and God’s faithfulness.  In Malachi 3:6 it says that God doesn’t change; and in Titus 1:2 it says God cannot lie.  My last issue with this chapter has to do with the very last sentence.  It says;

…and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female…

      While that in and of itself sounds great and lines up with the Bible, what about chapter five of this second book of Nephi?  Smith just got done telling us the Lamanites were cursed.  How are they able to approach the throne of God with a clear conscience if they’re cursed? 

     In 2 Nephi 30:6 we see one of the grammatical changes that have been made to the Book of Mormon.  In all there have been over 4,000 grammatical changes made.  Here is the 1980 and later version of this verse: 

And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a pure and delightsome people.

     In sharp contrast here is what it says prior to the change in 1980;

And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people.

     Since we’ve already discussed the color issue let’s forego that part of it and focus on what the Bible says in regards to this type of thing.  In Deut. 18:20-22 God tells the Israelites that in order to trust a prophet there is a test the prophet must pass.  If that prophet gives even one prophecy that doesn’t come true you are to ignore him because he will die and he has not spoken for God.

     Now from the example above:

Since when does the word white also mean pure?


If the Lamanites were supposed to believe in Christ then why are there still dark Native Americans?


     One chapter later we have Nephi preaching the gospel; keep in mind Jesus hasn’t been born yet let alone crucified and resurrected – that’s another five and a half centuries away!  The Greek words are also of interest considering Jacob and Nephi were living on a different continent, separated by an ocean, and they weren’t speaking Greek or Hebrew.  Joseph claims they had been speaking “Reformed Egyptian” (which to this day has never been authenticated by any reputable outside Egyptologist.). 

Why were words such as baptized, baptism and Holy Ghost used some 550 years before it actually occurred?


Why did Nephi say virtually the same thing that Luke did in Acts 4:10 almost 600 years before Luke was born?


2 Nephi 31:21; “And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen.

Acts 4:12; “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

And finally my dear friends from 2 Nephi 31:10 and 33:4;


How did Nephi know the name of Jesus before He was born?


Please know that if you’re a member of the LDS Church we are here not to bash you or any of the Mormon people.  Our hearts go out to you and we pray you will be set free from the confusion and lies of the doctrines of Joseph Smith.  We are convinced the Mormon people love Jesus and fear for them because this is truly not the Jesus of the Bible.  If you’d like more information you can contact us at Life After Ministries


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