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Creation

Why doesn’t the Book of Mormon contain the teaching that more than one god created the earth if it supposedly contains “the fullness of the gospel”?

Abraham 4:1; “And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth.”

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Today (3/26/12) I traveled over to the LDS website and found a very sad state of affairs.  http://www.lds.org/?lang=eng  The front page of their site says;

“The Savior Suffers in Gethsemane”

You’re going to see a video of a white Mormon Jesus with a British accent going to the Garden, kneeling down and praying the words from the Bible.  At some point he starts sniffling while they show the disciples sleeping and Jesus walking over to ask them why they can’t stay awake.  I find it interesting the Church thinks the Bible has been mistranslated yet they use the very words from it…hmmm….

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Mind Control? 

Favorite Quotations from the Collection of Thomas S. Monson, pg. 71; “There is no greater responsibility in the world than the training of a human soul.”

Like we’ve said so many times before, it’s the job of the Holy Spirit that does the transforming of the soul, not people. To believe you have that much power is a lie you’ve convinced yourself of possessing.

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Favorite Quotations from the Collection of Thomas S. Monson, pg. 56; “Most church workers are like a clock:

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False Gods

Better to Worship False Gods than Nothing at All?

Mortal Messiah 2:177; “It is better, no doubt, to have a false religion and to worship false gods than to have no religion and no worship at all. Neutrality is as nothing, and indifference is denigrating and damning. Those who are lukewarm—who are neither hot nor cold; who take no affirmative stand; who do not seek the blessings available through worship—will one day be spewed out of the divine mouth, as it were, and find their place in one of the lesser eternal realms.” – Bruce McConkie

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Today while perusing the Encyclopedia of Mormonism I came across an interesting statement by Joseph Smith. It’s times like these when I am convinced they drop little (big, theologically speaking) innuendos steering the Mormon people away from Jesus. I was looking for an official statement on their beliefs regarding temple marriages, the endowments they take out and the importance they play in the Mormon’s life. Here’s what it said:

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Spirit of man sexually begotten by Heavenly Father

Latter-day Prophets Speak: Selections from the Sermons and Writings of Church Presidents, Book 5; “There is not a person here today but what is a son or a daughter of that Being. In the spirit world their spirits were first begotten and brought forth, and they lived there with their parents for ages before they came here. This, perhaps, is hard for many to believe, but it is the greatest nonsense in the world not to believe it. If you do not believe it, cease to call Him Father; and when you pray, pray to some other character. -Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 4:216, February 8, 1857

If God is a spirit as His word tells us in John 4:24 how could He have sex to beget us spiritually before we came here to earth?

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Book of Mormon Stories before Translation

History of Joseph Smith, by His Mother, pg. 83; During our evening conversations, Joseph would occasionally give us some of the most amusing recitals that could be imagined. He would describe the ancient inhabitants of this continent, their dress, mode of traveling, and the animals upon which they rode; their cities, their buildings, with every particular; their mode of warfare; and also their religious worship. This he would do with as much ease, seemingly, as if he had spent his whole life among them.

On the twenty-second of September, 1824, Joseph again visited the place where he found the plates the year previous; and supposing at this time that the only thing required, in order to possess them until the time for their translation, was to be able to keep the commandments of God—and he firmly believed he could keep every commandment which had been given him—he fully expected to carry them home with him.

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God Allows False Doctrine

Bruce R. McConkie, Letter written by Bruce McConkie to Mr. Eugene England dated February 19, 1981; I do not know all of the providences of the Lord, but I do know that he permits false doctrine to be taught in and out of the Church and that such teaching is part of the sifting process of mortality”

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Mormons Baptize Parents of Simon Wiesenthal in Secret Ceremony 

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53506130-78/church-mokotoff-jewish-lds.html.csp

“We are outraged that such insensitive actions continue in the Mormon temples,” Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the Wiesenthal Center’s associate dean, said in a statement on the group’s website. “Such actions make a mockery of the many meetings with the top leadership of the Mormon church.”

 

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Becoming a Polygamous god on Another Planet

The Seer, pg. 37; Each God, through his wife or wives, raises up a numerous family of sons and daughters; indeed, there will be no end to the increase of his own children: for each father and mother will be in a condition to multiply forever and ever. As soon as each God has begotten many millions of male and female spirits, and his Heavenly inheritance becomes too small, to comfortably accommodate his great family, he, in connection with his sons, organizes a new world, after a similar order to the one which we now inhabit, where he sends both the male and female spirits to inhabit tabernacles of flesh and bones…

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Thought of the Day about Mormonism and Christian Behavior

Mitt Romney, Mark DeMoss at BYU and “True Christians”

Today I received a link to a story in the Salt Lake Tribune.  Lo and behold there was another evangelical telling me (and millions of other people) that evangelicals can’t “attack and demean Mormons or President Barack Obama and still consider yourself a follower of Jesus Christ”.

 

 

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Mormonism and the Washington Post

Today I received an e-mail from my good friend Ed Decker asking me to post a comment on the blog site for The Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/mormonisms-modern-day-problem/2012/01/22/gIQApCeiJQ_blog.html

In an article written by one of their reporters, Sally Quinn, she related a conversation she had with one of her friends she described as a “liberal atheist”. This conversation between the two of them was focused on why people who are religious are weird and why Smith’s religion is too new for anyone to believe it. I can appreciate their conversation because I used to think and feel the exact same way.

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Thought of the Day about Mormonism

Their Advertising Campaign for Mitt and Jon

According to the NY Times in November 2011, the Mormons hired two big name advertising agencies in 2009, Ogilvy and Mather and Hall and Partners, to gather info on what people thought of Mormons.  For those who answered in the focus groups they found that if they had any opinion at all it was negative, listing their reasons as ““secretive”, “cultish”, “sexist”, “controlling”, “pushy”, and “anti-gay””.  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/18/us/mormon-ad-campaign-seeks-to-improve-perceptions.html?pagewanted=all

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Thought of the Day about Mormonism and Mitt Romney

In the CNN Political Ticker today (January 8, 2012),  I read that Romney sent out a glossy fold out brochure mail piece to citizens of South Carolina.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/07/romney-embraces-mormon-faith-in-south-carolina-mail-piece

 

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Joseph Smith’s Evil Thoughts

Discourses of Joseph Smith, pg. 273; “”The Lord once told me that what I asked for I should have. I have been afraid to ask God to kill my enemies, lest some of them should, peradventure, repent.” (George Q. Cannon, Life of Joseph Smith, The Prophet, pp. 527-28.)”

2 Corinthians 10:5; “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.”

I am so utterly grateful my Lord and God Jesus snatched me out of this fiery pit.  After enjoying almost nineteen years of salvation I still can’t believe He saved me of all people!

The remarks by Mr. Smith tell a story.  They speak of a man filled with haughtiness and no fear of God.  Pray for the Mormon in your life today that lives under this domination which has been passed on down through the generations.

It’s obvious leaders in the Church have no remorse over some of his remarks else they would’ve discarded this instead of leaving it in the piles of papers for people to discover.  And what we found in this is Joseph Smith’s true character.

Did Smith believe God could’ve overlooked or forgotten someone might “repent”?  And why is Smith judging someone’s heart?  Who is he to say someone needs to repent?  My list of questions could go on but I am thinking upon the words of Paul in the scripture above.  Hold all thoughts captive…

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The Glory of God

If the glory of God is intelligence then what should we make of 1 Corinthians 13:8 which says;

“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.”

Does this mean that God’s glory will vanish?

Gospel Standards, pg. 160; “We, of course, seek after knowledge, light, and intelligence and to inform ourselves upon all matters of importance. The glory of God, we have been told by the Prophet Joseph, is intelligence; and we desire to gain knowledge and to become as intelligent as we possibly can…—Era, 24:866.” – Heber J. Grant

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 297; “It is not wisdom that we should have all knowledge at once presented before us; but that we should have a little at a time; then we can comprehend it. President Smith then read the 2nd Epistle of Peter, 1st chapter, 16th to last verses, and dwelt upon the 19th verse with some remarks. Add to your faith knowledge, etc. The principle of knowledge is the principle of salvation. This principle can be comprehended by the faithful and diligent; and every one that does not obtain knowledge sufficient to be saved will be condemned. The principle of salvation is given us through the knowledge of Jesus Christ.”

D&C 93:36; “The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth.”

 

 

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True Religion

 Ensign, May 2008, pg 75; “The restored gospel of Jesus Christ is the faith of our Heavenly Father. It is His truth, revealed to His servants the prophets from the days of Father Adam until our own time. The Father and the Son appeared to Joseph Smith to restore the faith of our Father on this earth, never to be taken away again. God desires that all of His children receive it, irrespective of their background, culture, or tradition. True religion should not originate from what pleases men or the traditions of ancestors, but rather from what pleases God, our Eternal Father.” – Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “Faith of Our Father”

When I saw this LDS quote a few questions came to mind immediately.

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Baptism for the Dead and being Born Again

I often wonder what Mormons think of the passage of scripture in John when Nicodemus asked Jesus what he must do to be born again.  While we’ve explored this issue in our Mormon Dilemmas section before, today I began wondering about another angle to this scenario.

If Jesus told Nicodemus he had to be born again then how are dead people born again?

John 3:3; “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

The Mormon Church teaches that they can’t be saved without their dead and the dead can’t be saved without members doing works for them in the temple.

D&C 128:18; “…baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect.”

So how can a dead person be born again?  Remember, we’re not talking about being spiritually dead, but a literal dead person.

The Mormons I’ve spoken with have told me the person who is dead has the choice of accepting or rejecting that which was done for them in the temple.  But this doesn’t answer the question so it’s something I’d keep asking them about.

I also wonder how they feel about Moroni 10:26 and 2 Nephi 9:38 in light of the Doctrine and Covenants passage listed above.

Moroni 10:26; “And wo unto them who shall do these things away and die, for they die in their sins, and they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God; and I speak it according to the words of Christ; and I lie not.”

2 Nephi 9:38; And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”

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Brigham Young’s words more than 150 years ago seems less than prophetic or inspiring in today’s day and age when he said the following;

Journal of Discourses 7:286; “Mankind are here because they are the offspring of parents who were first brought here from another planet, and power was given them to propagate their species, and they were commanded to multiply and replenish the earth.” – Brigham Young, October 9, 1859, Salt Lake City

It gives the line “what planet are you from” a whole new meaning.

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