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 We came upon Mr. Hyde’s remarks about Moroni while looking for references on another subject, and had to share this one. Sigh… We’ll be sure to add this to our next installment of ‘Worst of the Worst Quotes’.

Journal of Discourses 6:368 “…it may not be amiss to ask here, by whose power victory so often perched on our banner? It was by the agency of that same angel of God that appeared unto Joseph Smith, and revealed to him the history of the early inhabitants of this country, whose mounds, bones, and remains of towns, cities, and fortifications speak from the dust in the ears of the living with the voice of undeniable truth. (more…)

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 Today we’re exploring the long held Mormon belief that Jesus Christ was married. The reason why we’re doing this today is because of the sermon my pastor delivered this past Memorial Day weekend.

No, he didn’t claim Jesus was married! Whew! He actually spoke on memorable events in life, and briefly mentioned John 2:11 with Jesus’ first miracle at the wedding in Cana c. 28 AD.

His reference to the date got me to wondering about Mormonism’s claim of Jesus being the bridegroom at Cana.

Journal of Discourses 2:82-83 It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854

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 April 15 – Everlasting Righteousness. Psalm 119:142; “Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And thy law is the truth.”

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Journal of Discourses 5:71 “The sun, moon, and stars are the representatives of the final homes of the departed dead, if not their real homes. … Here are homes for all grades of spirits, from the faithful martyr to Christ’s kingdom and Gospel, whose glory is represented by the sun in the firmament, to the wicked tare, who will be sent away into outer darkness, upon some planet destined to roll in endless night.” — Orson Hyde, Great Salt Lake City, March 8, 1857 (more…)

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Witnessing Tip of the Day FebruaryFebruary 14 – Mormonism to Rule Every Nation Isaiah 6:1, 3; “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 3b Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”

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September 12 – Psalms 137:6-7; “If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.  Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.” (more…)

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Journal of Discourses 2:83 “…What would it have done for us, if they had known that many of us had more than one wife when we lived in Illinois? They would have broken us up, doubtless, worse than they did. They may break us up, and route us from place to another, but by and by we shall come to a point where we shall have all the women, and they will have none. You may think I am joking about this, but I can bring you the truth of God to demonstrate it to you. I have not advanced anything I have not got an abundance of backing for.” – Orson Hyde, Great Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854 (more…)

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May 12 – Ex. 3:14; “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”.

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Today in Mormon History

“175 Years Ago Today – February 13, 1843. At Orson Hyde’s house Joseph Smith says that those who come to Nauvoo but don’t buy their land through the church “must be cut off.” At this time Joseph Smith is chief land agent for the Church, and had contracted debt associated with land purchases. William Law is now competing with Joseph Smith.”

 

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Jesus-and-Young-Women Journal of Discourses 4:260; “I will venture to say that if Jesus Christ were now to pass through the most pious countries in Christendom with a train of women,. such as used to follow him, fondling about him, combing his hair, anointing him with precious ointment, washing his feet with tears, and wiping them with the hair of their heads and unmarried, or even married, he would be mobbed, tarred, and feathered, and rode, not on an ass, but on a rail. What did the old Prophet mean when he said (speaking of Christ), “He shall see his seed, prolong his days, &c.” Did Jesus consider it necessary to fulfil every righteous command or requirement of his Father? He most certainly did. This he witnessed by submitting to baptism under the hands of John. “Thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness,” said he. Was it God’s commandment to man, in the beginning, to multiply and replenish the earth? None can deny this, neither that it was a righteous command; for upon an obedience to this, depended the perpetuity of our race. Did Christ come to destroy the law or the Prophets, or to fulfil them? He came to fulfil. Did he multiply, and did he see his seed? Did he honour his Father’s law by complying with it, or did he not? Others may do as they like, but I will not charge our Saviour with neglect or transgression in this or any other duty.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, March 1857 [Spelling as in original.]

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Witnessing Tip of the Day April 2April 15 – Everlasting Righteousness. Psalm 119:142; “Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, And thy law is the truth.”

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Witnessing Tip of the Day FebruaryFebruary 14 – Who Will Rule? Isaiah 6:1, 3; “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 3b Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”

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September 12 – Psalms 137:6-7; “If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.  Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.”

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September 3 – 1 Peter 1:24-25; “For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:  But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”

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Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 20:99; “Polygamy is a principle revealed from heaven with a commandment to enter into it practically. The principle is abundantly corroborated in the ancient scriptures, approved of God and sanctioned by all righteous men; and he who labors to overthrow this principle, fights against Jehovah and makes himself a shining target, courting the arrows of the Almighty upon his head, heart and country. – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, November 3, 1878

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Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 1:123; “Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, and mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point where He now is.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1853

 

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Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 2:75-87; “When the servants of God and their wives go to heaven there is an eternal union, and they will multiply and replenish the world to which they are going.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854

 

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Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 2:79-80, 82; “Did the Saviour of the world consider it to be his duty to fulfil all righteousness? You answer, yes. Even the simple ordinance of baptism he would not pass by, for the Lord commanded it, and therefore it was righteousness to obey what the Lord had commanded, and he would fulfil all righteousness. Upon this hypothesis I will go back to the beginning, and notice the commandment that was given to our first parents in the Garden of Eden. The Lord said unto them, “Multiply and replenish the earth. …”… Our first parents, then, were commanded to multiply and replenish the earth; and if the Saviour found it his duty to be baptized to fulfil all righteousness, a command of far less importance than that of multiplying his race, (if indeed there is any difference in the commandments of Jehovah, for they are all important, and all essential,) would he not find it his duty to join in with the rest of the faithful ones in replenishing the earth?” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854

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Jesus was a Polygamist 

Mormon Decisions 10Journal of Discourses 2:81-82; “When Mary of old came to the sepulchre on the first day of the week, instead of finding Jesus she saw two angels in white, “And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She said unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord,” or husband, “and I know not where they have laid him. And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou?…She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.” Is there not here manifested the affections of a wife. These words speak the kindred ties and sympathies that are common to that relation of husband and wife. ” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854

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Mormon Jesus 3The list of subjects to study in Mormonism is virtually endless, but this subject matter sits near the very top of my list of the most blasphemous teachings in Mormonism.

While I could write volumes on how and why the leaders of Mormonism are wrong, I’m just going to let their comments speak for themselves. Compare what they’ve said with the Bible and you’ll see what I mean.

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