January 3 – Why the Mormon Elohim isn’t God. In the Hebrew this mighty name for God means creator, and the fullness, or the Deity of God. In Gen. 1:26 God said; “Let Us make man in our image, after our likeness”.
Posts Tagged ‘elohim’
Why the Mormon Elohim isn’t God
Posted in January, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged elohim, Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Genesis 1:36, pagan gods of Mormonism on 01/03/2022| 2 Comments »
Who is the Mormon Elohim?
Posted in May, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Doctrine and Covenants, elohim, godhood status, Mormon god on 05/08/2021| Leave a Comment »
May 8 – Who is the Mormon Elohim? Ps. 82:6; “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High”.
Tip of the Day, May 8
Posted in May, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Doctrine and Covenants, elohim, godhood status, Mormon god on 05/08/2018| Leave a Comment »
May 8 – Ps. 82:6; “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High”.
Tip of the Day, May 8
Posted in May, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged D&C 76:55-58, elohim, Psalm 82:6, Ye are gods on 05/08/2017| Leave a Comment »
Witnessing Tip of the Day January 5
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged elohim, TPJS p 372, Trinity on 01/05/2017| Leave a Comment »
January 5 – Isaiah 9:6; “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace”.
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How much more powerful can the message of the Trinity, and our salvation be given?
What more needed to be said?
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Witnessing Tip of the Day January 3
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January 3 – elohim. In the Hebrew this mighty name for God means creator, and the fullness, or the Deity of God. In Gen. 1:26 God said; “Let Us make man in our image, after our likeness”.
Tip of the Day, March 25
Posted in March, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Chastity by Mark Petersen, elohim, false doctrines, false gospel of Mormonism, Mormon god brought his own race upon the earth, Mormon heavenly father and mother, pre-existence on 03/25/2015| Leave a Comment »
March 25 – John 4:24 says “God is a spirit and those that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth”.
Tip of the Day, January 3
Posted in January, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, elohim, false gospel, godhood, mormonism, pagan gods, the Deity of God on 01/03/2015| Leave a Comment »
January 3 – elohim. In the Hebrew this mighty name for God means creator and the fullness or the Deity of God. In Gen. 1:26 God said; “Let Us make man in our image, after our likeness”.
The Mormon Godhead Resource Page
Posted in Mormon godhead, tagged elohim, exalted man, false doctrines of Mormonism, God not eternal, Holy Ghost, Jesus, Jesus was a polygamist on 08/20/2013| Leave a Comment »
Here we go again! We now have a page with all our articles (I hope so anyway) of anything to do with the Mormon godhead. Yay!
From the exalted man elohim to the Mormon Jesus and the Mormon Holy Ghost. It’s all in one place and easily accessible for you! The man page is over on the right or you can just click here. 🙂 Thanks for your patience while we clean up around here!
False Prophecies of Mormonism; Redeemed gods
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged bible, elohim, false doctrines of Mormonism, God is a redeemed god, idolatry, Isaiah 43:10-11, Jesus, polytheism, salvation on 05/30/2013| Leave a Comment »
The Seer, pg 23-24; “The Gods who dwell in the Heaven from which our spirits came, are beings who have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid…These Gods, being redeemed from the grave with their wives are immortal and eternal and will die no more. But they and their wives will be supremely happy. All the endearing ties of conjugal love which existed in the bosoms, when terrestrial and fallen beings, are now greatly increased and perfected which serve to swell their souls with feelings of rapturous delight, and unbounded love towards each other, and with joys that are everlasting.” – Orson Pratt
Mormon Dilemma 579
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged bible, Deuteronomy 6:4, elohim, false doctrines of Mormonism, Jesus is God, Jesus is Jehovah, Mormon Jesus not God, salvation on 05/05/2013| 1 Comment »
Jehovah
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg 741; “JEHOVAH. Latter-day Saints believe that Jesus was Jehovah himself, God of Israel, not son of Jehovah.”
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg 452; “It was also frequently used interchangeably with Jehovah, the proper name for Israel’s God: “And Jacob said, O God [‘elohim] of my father Abraham…the Lord [Jehovah] which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country”…
Mormon Dilemma 229
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged bible, elohim, fullness or deity of God, Jesus, Mormon elohim is pagan gods, salvation, Trinity on 04/20/2012| 3 Comments »
Adam Created by the gods
Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 15; “Latter-day scriptures attest that Adam is a son of God, that his physical body was created by the Gods in their own image and placed in the Garden of Eden (Moses 6:9, 22; Abr. 5:7-11; TPJS, p. 345-53; cf. 2 Ne. 2:14-19).”
Mormon Terminology
Posted in Mormon Terminology, tagged bible, creation, Creator, elohim, false doctrine, Genesis, God, mormonism, plurality of gods on 11/13/2011| Leave a Comment »
Creation
The book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price is the account of the creation. Moses 2:1-31 is much like the account of the creation as told in the Bible. Now if we skip over to Abraham chapters 4 and 5 in the Pearl of Great Price we see an entirely different story of the creation. Here it tells the Mormon that the ‘Gods’ created the earth and then created man. This is just one example of how the Mormons became confused.
Tip of the Day, September 23
Posted in September, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, Creator, elohim, false gospel, Fullness of God, God, godhood, gods, Hebrew, Holy Spirit, Jesus, mormonism, pagan gods, Trinity, Witnessing tips for Mormons on 09/23/2011| Leave a Comment »
September 23 – Psalms 82:6-7; “They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”
Mormon Terminology
Posted in Mormon Terminology, tagged bible, Book of Mormon, elohim, false doctrines, false gods, God, godhead, Jesus, Mormon terminology, rulers, salvation, Trinity on 08/28/2011| Leave a Comment »
God – Heavenly Father/elohim
As stated before, the Mormon god is an exalted man.
Hyrum L. Andrus said this in his book God and Man in Eternal Union, pg. 1; “The revelations of Joseph Smith support this view. “If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,” the Prophet said, “you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as man.””
Tip of the Day, August 22
Posted in August, Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, elohim, false doctrine, false teachers, godhood, Jesus, LDS, many gods, mormonism, polytheism, pre-existence on 08/22/2011| 1 Comment »
August 22 – Job 38:4-6; “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof.”
Word Studies with the Mormon
Posted in Mormon Terminology, Word Studies, tagged bible, elohim, false gospel, Greek, Hebrew, Jesus, Mormon terminology, mormonism, salvation, Strong's Concordance, Vine's Expository, Word Studies with a Mormon on 05/18/2011| 1 Comment »
Word Studies with the Mormon
Don’t take our word for it, what does the Bible say?
The first thing to keep in mind when witnessing is your heart. Where is it at in regards to this Mormon person? You will never ‘win’ the argument with them by ‘proving’ that they’re wrong. Your proof was shown in His resurrection. It really happened, i.e., credible eyewitness accounts.
Thoughts of the Day about Mormonism
Posted in Thought of the Day about Mormonism, tagged bible, Doctrine and Covenants, elohim, false gospel, false prophet, God, grace vs. works, Heavenly Father, Jesus, joseph smith, mormonism, Redeemer on 05/11/2011| 1 Comment »
Contradictions in the Doctrine and Covenants
Today we’re wondering why the prophecy declared by Joseph Smith contradicts what has taken place in the Mormon Church. As you’ll see from the text, God told Joseph that whoever performs or declares more than repentance and coming to Christ is not in obedience.
Tip of the Day, January 3
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged bible, Creator, elohim, false gospel, God, gospel, mormonism, truth on 01/03/2011| 1 Comment »
January 3 – elohim. In the Hebrew this mighty name for God means creator and the fullness or the Deity of God. In Gen. 1:26 God said; “Let Us make man in our image, after our likeness”.
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As Christians we understand and know the Deity means Trinity. The other meaning for the word elohim means pagan gods, rulers, kings, or principalities.
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Mormons do not believe in the Trinity. In addition to this, they call their Heavenly Father, Elohim. Ask them which elohim they are worshipping.
Book of Mormon; Fullness of the Gospel?
Posted in Book of Mormon, tagged 600 BC, baptisms for the dead, Book of Mormon, elohim, endowments, fullness of gospel, god in embryo, godhood, golden plates, Jerusalem, lds church, Mormon, Mormon Church, mormonism, Nephites, ordinances, polygamy, pre-existence, salvation, temple on 10/20/2010| 1 Comment »
“Lord Increase Our Faith”, page 64; “The real focus on the Book of Mormon should be on the details of the book itself, not on the details of the process by which it came forth. Although we do not know everything about the process of its coming forth or its translation, the Book of Mormon is open to full scrutiny.” – Neal A. Maxwell
Ensign, May 2007, pg. 88; “This ancient volume of holy scriptures is a sacred companion to the Bible, containing the fulness of the everlasting gospel of Jesus Christ.” – L. Tom Perry
My objective in this article is for members of the LDS Church to ponder the information presented here and honestly ask themselves if it makes sense the Book of Mormon is from God. While I don’t agree with Mr. Maxwell’s opinion on how people should view the Book of Mormon (Galatians 1:6-9), we’re going to take him up on what he said about it being open to full scrutiny.
All right, so I have an obsession with the book of Jeremiah; I’ll be the first to admit it! If you’re a Mormon, have you ever read the book of Jeremiah? There’s an important lesson to be learned in Jeremiah 36:20-32. King Jehoiakim had decided he didn’t like God’s written word so he cut it up and burned it thinking that would take care of God, but he was sorely mistaken.
I believe it was Matthew Henry who said “Those who hate it always seem to do things like this in life” …they either try to destroy or discredit God’s very words.
It was 600 BC and the prophet Jeremiah had been warning the Israelites for forty years that danger was lurking. He told them God had an important message He wanted for them to hear and if they obeyed Him they wouldn’t lose their lives. Times would be tough, but if they fled for Egypt on their own seeking safety, they would die by sword, famine or pestilence. If they stayed put in Jerusalem (Jer. 42:10) God would protect their lives in the upcoming onslaught of the Babylonian takeover. While they were in captivity for a time, there was a small remnant that was allowed to remain seventy years later.
The certifiably insane King Nebuchadnezzar (descendant of Queen of Sheba and Solomon) marched the Israelites out of Jerusalem, chained some of them nude alongside a river while partying on a boat nearby and eventually went totally mad, living with animals. He too hated God and turned the sacred scrolls into sacks filled with sand for the captive Israelites to carry into Egypt. No one escaped his wrath. (Eventually Nebuchadnezzar repented and worshipped God.)
Now some 2,400 years later we have the story of Joseph Smith and the “golden plates” which he said contains the “fullness of the gospel”, otherwise known as the Book of Mormon. One of the remarkable events about this story is the timeline. It’s the story of a lost tribe of Israelites fleeing Jerusalem in 600 BC and guess what? Yep, they’re headin’ for Egypt, seeking safety from the fall of Jerusalem.
Okay, foregoing the arguments, let’s say God told everyone but this lost tribe of “Nephites” to stay put in Jerusalem; what about Joseph Smith’s other assertion about the Book of Mormon?
He said a lot of things about this work so his claims should be investigated as Mr. Maxwell suggests. It’d be amazing if anyone escaped the wrath of Nebuchadnezzar, so these plates should be of significant value if true, right?
What do these brass plates tell us? Does the Book of Mormon contain the “fullness of the gospel”? Remember, parts of these plates are supposedly what the Nephites hauled over to the States when they sailed here.
Let’s begin with what Doctrine and Covenants 19:26, 27:5 and 135:3 says:
“And again, I command thee that thou shalt not covet thine own property, but impart it freely to the printing of the Book of Mormon, which contains the truth and the word of God—”
“Behold, this is wisdom in me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim.”
“Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it. In the short space of twenty years, he has brought forth the Book of Mormon, which he translated by the gift and power of God, and has been the means of publishing it on two continents; has sent the fulness of the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the earth…”
As you can see, we have confirmation through the prophecies above; the Church does believe it’s the “fullness of the gospel”. Now in light of those prophecies by Smith, we need to compare them with what the Bible says about prophets and prophecies, in addition to looking at a few core Mormon doctrines and see if they’re in the Book of Mormon. If they’re not found on those plates, we ask in all sincerity – how can this be the fullness of the gospel if it doesn’t contain all the requirements for salvation?
What the Bible Says:
Deuteronomy 18:20-22; “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”
Deuteronomy 13:1-5; “If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.”
Mormons believe a true and full salvation can only be attained in the highest kingdom of heaven which they call the “Celestial Kingdom”. The Celestial Kingdom is reserved solely for those who have been found worthy enough to become a god themselves after they have accomplished a number of works here on earth. Below are a handful of requirements and beliefs each Mormon needs for a true salvation in the Mormon Church.
What the Mormon Church Says:
Church Government
3 Nephi 12 says the twelve Nephite apostles received power to share the gospel, baptize and give the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is the closest we come to anything remotely close to the hierarchy we see in the Mormon Church today.
There is no “first presidency”, no quorum of the seventies, no bishops, no bishopric, no wards, no branches, no stakes and no stake presidents, no area presidency…compare it with what the Bible says about church structure:
1 Corinthians 10:32, 12:9-10, 18, 29, 30; Acts 13:1, Romans 12:8, Ephesians 2:20, 3:5, 4:11
God
Father God has a body of flesh and bones – D&C 130:22
God was once a man. – HC 6:305, Gospel through the Ages, pg. 105
God has many wives/Mother gods – Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, pg. 25
God has a father – Gospel Truth, pg. 101; The Seer by Orson Pratt, pg. 132; Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 38
God had sex with Mary – Journal of Discourses 4:218 – Brigham Young, February 8, 1857; Journal of Discourses 1:50-51, 8:115, 11:268
God progresses/Eternal progression – Distinct Doctrines and Teachings of the Pearl of Great Price, pg. 76; Gospel through the Ages, pgs. 114-115; Articles of Faith, pg. 390
Three Separate Personages in Godhead – Mormon Doctrine, pg. 576; D&C 130:22-23; Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 552; Mormon Doctrine of Deity, pgs. 9-10; History of the Church 6:474, June 16, 1844
gods/polytheism
Many gods and councils of gods – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 348; Abraham 4:25
Man may become a god – Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pgs. 136-137; Gospel through the Ages, pgs. 105-106; D&C 76:58, TPJS 342-345
Man is a god in embryo – Miracle/Forgiveness, pg. 3
Heaven
Three levels of heaven. – Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 367; D&C 131:1-4
Jesus
Jesus chosen to become a god – Mormon Doctrine, pg. 129, Abraham 3:27-28
Jesus and Lucifer are brothers – Jesus the Christ, pg. 8; Gospel through the Ages, pg. 15
Jesus was Married – Journal of Discourses 2:82, 2:210, 4:259-26
Jesus was a polygamist – Jesus was Married by Ogden Kraut, pg. 27; Journal of Discourses 13:309
Jesus Crucified for Polygamy – Journal of Discourses 1:346
Polygamy
Polygamy Condemned – Jacob 2:24
Polygamy is true salvation – D&C 131:1-4, 132:4-6, 20-21; Journal of Discourses 5:204 & 282, 11:269, 12:262, 13:167-168, 13:189, 17:225; Doctrines of Salvation 2:67; Mormon Doctrine, pg. 219; Evidences and Reconciliations, pg. 390; Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 332…
Pre-existence
Elohim populating earth through sexually begotten spirit children –
Discourses of Brigham Young, pg. 24; D&C 49:17, 93:23-29, 138:55-56; Mormon Doctrine, pg. 516; Abraham 3:22-28; Journal of Discourses 4:216; Melvin Joseph Ballard, Sermons and Missionary Services, page 247; Answers: Straightforward Answers to Tough Gospel Questions, pgs. 5-6; Life Before, pg. 91; For Behold Ye are Free, pg. 42; Ensign, November 1997, pg. 65; Way to Perfection, pg. 29…
Salvation
Temple marriage a requirement for exaltation – Teens, Temple Marriage and Eternity, pg. 1; Doctrines of Salvation 2:62; D&C 131:1-4
President of Church Holds Keys to – Mormon Doctrine, pg. 591
Salvation after Death
Book of Mormon – none is available after death – 2 Nephi 9:15, 38; Alma 12:13-14, 34:31-34, 42:22-23
Other LDS teachings say it is necessary
Baptism for the dead – D&C 124:29-30, 128:15; Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 191; History of the Church 4:568-569; Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 1258; Are Mormons Christians? pg. 19; Doctrines of Salvation 2:175…
As the reader can plainly see, not one of those core doctrinal teachings is in the Book of Mormon. The list here is brief in comparison to the hordes of all their teachings. What we’ve presented here is enough to show the Book of Mormon certainly doesn’t stand up to the claims Joseph Smith and other Church leaders have made.
How can the Book of Mormon contain the “fullness of the gospel” if their teachings are not to be found in the Book of Mormon?
If you’re LDS we want you to know that we pray diligently for you each and every day. We hope you’ll investigate these claims for yourself and see that God is not a God of confusion as it says in 1 Cor. 14:33. Ask yourself and your leaders why there is such a huge contradiction in what D&C says and what the Book of Mormon doesn’t say.
With Love in Christ;
Michelle
1 Cor. 1:18
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