Journal of Discourses 23:361-362; “Because he was the head God chose him, and while he was faithful no man could take his place and position. He was faithful, and died faithful. He stands therefore at the head of this dispensation, and will throughout all eternity, and no man can take that power away from him. If any man holds these keys, he holds them subordinate to him. … If we get our salvation we shall have to pass by him; if we enter into our glory it will be through the authority that he has received. We cannot get around him … If we enter into our exaltation, it will be because they, as the servants of God, permit us to pass by, just as the revelation says, ‘pass by the angels and the Gods, which are set there,’ to our exaltation.” – George Q. Cannon, Salt Lake City, October 29, 1882 (more…)
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False Prophecy of Mormonism; Salvation Through Joseph Smith
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged False apostle George Cannon, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophecies of Mormonism, Journal of Discourses, salvation through Jesus Christ on 05/02/2016| Leave a Comment »
Witnessing Tip of the Day May 1
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Brigham Young, Exodus 22:20, false gods, gods, Journal of Discourses, polytheism on 05/01/2016| Leave a Comment »
May 1 РPolytheism. Exodus 22:20; Ҧ He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
‘Christian God is the Mormon Devil’
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, False Prophet Brigham Young, tagged anti-Christian, false apostle Joseph Noble, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Mormon god is Christian devil on 02/16/2016| 2 Comments »
Journal of Discourses 5:331; “…Joseph B. Nobles once told a Methodist priest, after hearing him describe his god, that the god they worshipped was the “Mormons’” Devil—a being
without a body, whereas our God has a body, parts, and passions. The Devil was cursed and sent down from heaven. He has no body of his own; therefore he is constantly endeavoring to obtain possession of the tabernacles belonging to others…” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, October 7, 1857
Witnessing Tip of the Day February 14
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged Isaiah 6:1-3, Journal of Discourses, Mormonism to rule the earth, Orson Hyde on 02/14/2016| Leave a Comment »
February 14 – Who Will Rule? Isaiah 6:1, 3; “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 3b Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.”
Orson Pratt’s False Prophecy; Satan Won
Posted in False gods, false gospel, false Mormon apostles, False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged anti-Christian, false doctrines of Mormonism, false teacher, Journal of Discourses, Orson Pratt on 01/07/2016| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 13:125; “Jesus made his appearance on the earth in the meridian of time, and he established his kingdom on the earth. But to fulfill ancient prophecies the Lord suffered that kingdom to be uprooted; in other words, the kingdoms of this world made war against the kingdom of God, established eighteen centuries ago, and they prevailed against it, and the kingdom ceased to exist. The great beast that John saw made war with it and prevailed against it, and human institutions, without prophets or inspired men, usurped the place of the ancient kingdom of God.” – Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, April 10, 1870
Thought of the Day about Spirit Babies
Posted in Spirit Babies, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophet Brigham Young, godhood status, Journal of Discourses on 01/06/2016| Leave a Comment »
Mormonism teaches upon exaltation, men will become gods of their own planets. See Mormon Dilemma 384.
Brigham Young taught that after men receive their own planet, they’re able to procreate with an exalted goddess wife, and beget spirit children.
Journal of Discourses 6:275; “After men have got their exaltations and their crowns—have become Gods, even the sons of God—are made Kings of kings and Lords of lords, they have the power then of propagating their species in spirit; and that is the first of their operations with regard to organizing a world.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, August 28, 1852
Don’t Question God, Don’t Question Brigham
Posted in false Mormon apostles, False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged don't question Brigham Young, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses on 01/01/2016| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 6:32-33; “Wake Up! WAKE UP, YE ELDERS OF ISRAEL, and live to God and none else; and learn to do as you are told, both old and young; learn to do as you are told for the future. …Brother Brigham [Young] is my leader: he is my Prophet, my Seer, my Revelator; and whatever he says, that is for me to do; and it is not for me to question him one word, nor to question God a minute. Do you not see?” – Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City, November 8, 1857
Where is the Spirit World?
Posted in Necromancy, tagged Brigham Young, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophet, Journal of Discourses, Spirit World, talking to dead spirits on 12/18/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses, 3:369; “When you lay down this tabernacle, where are you going? Into the spiritual world. Are you going into Abraham’s bosom? No, not anywhere nigh there but into the spirit world. Where is the spirit world? It is right here. Do the good and evil spirits go together? Yes, they do. Do they both inhabit one kingdom? Yes, they do. Do they go to the sun? No. Do they go beyond the boundaries of the organized earth? No, they do not. They are brought forth upon this earth, for the express purpose of inhabiting it to all eternity. Where else are you going? Nowhere else, only as you may be permitted.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, June 22, 1856
Mormonism’s Love-Hate Relationship with the Journal of Discourses
Posted in Journal of Discourses, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, Journal of Discourses, LDS prophets on 10/22/2015| 2 Comments »
For the first eighteen years of life I embraced my Mormon religious conviction with unabated loyalty. Shelving questions about the faith, I held tightly to the ideology while parroting the all-too popular belief ‘I’ll find out when I get there’.
That was until.
After I left Mormonism, and began working with Ed Decker, I brought home an entire set of Journal of Discourses Ed had given to me. I started at the beginning with the first volume and began reading.
Ex-Mormons Labeled Untrustworthy Apostate Traitors
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged apostate Mormons are traitors, Brigham Young, false prophet, Journal of Discourses, Mormon hatred of ex-Mormons on 06/10/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 12:93; “On this particular point I said a little a Sunday or two ago. I will now take the liberty of saying a little more. If there is a despicable character on the face of the earth, it is an apostate from this Church. He is a traitor who has deceived his best friends, betrayed his
trust, and forfeited every principle of honor that God placed within him. They may think they are respected, but they are not. They are disgraced in their own eyes. There is not much honesty within them; they have forfeited their heaven, sold their birthright, and betrayed their friends. What will the devil do with such characters? Will he have them in his kingdom? Yes, he will be obliged to, because he is an apostate himself. He apostatized from the Celestial Kingdom, and was thrust down to hell. Yet, when apostates get to his kingdom, he will say—“I do not like you, for you are just as mean as I am. I was a traitor and a liar, and I am yet. I despise myself and every character that betrays his trust.” That is all I wish to say on that point. Let apostates go.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, June 30, 1867
Mormon Women to Become Eves and People Millions of Earths
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, false prophets of Mormonism, gods and goddesses, Journal of Discourses, Mormon women to be like Eve on 06/06/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 8:207-209; “If we yield ourselves servants to obey the principles that hold us in existence, it gives to us our exaltation, and
glorifies us with the Gods, and puts all things under our feet. What a glorious law that is! There is nothing here, except the sin within us, that repels this law. Trample every feeling that is opposed to this law under your feet…
Many of the sisters grieve because they are not blessed with offspring. You will see the time when you will have millions of children around you. If you are faithful to your covenants, you will become mothers of nations. You will become Eves to earths like this; and when you have assisted in peopling one earth there are millions of earths still in the course of creation.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, October 14, 1860
Did Brigham Reveal Too Much about God?
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Adam-God theory, Brigham Young, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophets of Mormonism, Journal of Discourses on 06/02/2015| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 8:58; “And I will say, as I have said before, if guilt before my God and my brethren rests upon me in the least, it is in this one thing, that I have revealed too much concerning God and his kingdom, and the designs of our Father in heaven. If my skirts are stained in the least with wrong, it is because I have been too free in telling who God is, how he lives, the nature of his providences and designs in creating the world, in bringing the human family on the earth, his designs concerning them, etc. If I had, like Paul, said — “But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant,” perhaps it would have been better for the people.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, June 27, 1860
Also see: Deseret News; Brigham Young; June 27, 1860
Holy Ghost Isn’t God, But Diffuses His Influence
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, false prophet, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Journal of Discourses on 05/28/2015| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 6:96; “With regard to this particular point, I will say that you shall judge the matter and be my witnesses. Have we not learned enough with regard to the character of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, to at once believe, admit, and affirm that the Holy Ghost always has and always will operate precisely according to the suggestion of the Father? Not a desire, act, wish, or thought does the Holy Ghost indulge in contrary to that which is dictated by the Father. We all sense this in a degree, because it has always been taught to us. It is taught in the Bible, in the revelations given through Joseph, and in the preaching by the Elders of Israel…
Mormon’s Love/Hate Relationship with Journal of Discourses
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, General Conferences, Journal of Discourses, LDS Gospel Topics on 05/23/2015| Leave a Comment »
Gospel Topics, ‘Journal of Discourses’; “The Journal of Discourses is not an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is a compilation of sermons and other materials from the early years of the Church, which were transcribed and then published. It included some doctrinal instruction but also practical teaching, some of which is speculative in nature and some of which is only of historical interest…The content of the Journal of Discourses was transcribed, sometimes inaccurately, and published between 1854 and 1886 in England…The Journal of Discourses includes interesting and insightful teachings by early Church leaders; however, by itself it is not an authoritative source of Church doctrine.”
Character of Jesus Contaminated
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, false christ, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophets, Jesus is contaminated, Journal of Discourses on 05/22/2015| 2 Comments »
Journal of Discourses 6:96; “We believe that we have a correct idea of the character of the Son from the writings of the Apostles, so far as they learned it. But while he was tabernacling in the flesh, he was more or less contaminated with fallen nature. While he was here, in a body that his mother Mary bore him, he was more or less connected with and influenced by this nature that we have received.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, November 29, 1857
No Forgiveness or Salvation for Adulterers
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged adultery, false prophets of Mormonism, George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses, polygamy, salvation on 05/18/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 25:327-382; “Now let it be known throughout all Israel, as the word of the Lord to us for the present, through His servant who stands at the head, that a man who commits adultery, a man who has had his endowments, cannot be baptized again into the Church. Let it be known throughout all Israel, as the word of God through His servant, who stands at the head, that a man who has had his endowments and commits
whoredom, cannot now be received into the Church again. These must be cut off; because the law that was given in the early days of the Church concerning a man committing adultery once and being received back into the Church does not apply today. There has been a higher law since then, namely, the endowments, and men have taken upon themselves, and women also, sacred obligations in holy places. Therefore, hear it and understand it.” — George Q. Cannon, Salt Lake City, October 6-7, 1884
Can ‘Immortal Beings’ Multiply?
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false prophets of Mormonism, families are forever, Journal of Discourses, Orson Pratt on 05/17/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 14:244-245; “Perhaps you may think that Brother Pratt is rather enthusiastic and fanatical in his ideas to suppose that
immortal beings can multiply; but I would ask any person who has read the first and second chapters of Genesis if the command which was first given to multiply was not given to two immortal beings who had not yet fallen? If, therefore, two immortal beings, were then commanded to multiply, why should it be thought incredible that immortal beings who are raised from the grave and restored to all that which Adam and his wife possessed before the Fall, should have the power to do the same?” — Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, August 20, 1871
Polygamy Excuses
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged adultery, Brigham Young, false prophet, Journal of Discourses, polygamy excuses on 03/12/2015| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 3:265; “It has been strenuously urged by many, that this doctrine was introduced through lust, but that is a gross misrepresentation…
This revelation, which God gave to Joseph, was for the express purpose of providing a channel for the organization of tabernacles, for those spirits to occupy who have been reserved to come forth in the kingdom of God, and that they might not be obliged to take tabernacles out of the kingdom of God.” – Brigham Young, Provo, July 14, 1855
Mormon Interpretation of Christianity 1
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged anti-Christian, Christian churches v Mormon churches, false doctrines of Mormonism, George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses on 03/04/2015| 1 Comment »
Looking around for a quote the other day proved to be an interesting experience as I came across a talk given by LDS apostle George Q. Cannon. Just like his counterparts who trick people, he blathered on with lies about the body of Christ and didn’t provide any evidence for his damning accusations.
Our dilemma today and for the next day or two is a multi-part series as we look at this talk to compare it with historical facts, but most of all the Bible.
Christian God is a ‘Notion’
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged anti-Christian, bible, Charles Penrose, false apostle, false doctrines of Mormonism, false gospel, Jesus, Journal of Discourses on 12/24/2014| 2 Comments »
Journal of Discourses 23:343-344; “The God whom the “Christians” worship is a being of their own creation–if, indeed, there can be such a being as they describe him to be; they have formed certain notions concerning deity, and then they have formulated those notions into articles of faith or religion.” – Charles W. Penrose, Salt Lake City, January 14, 1883
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