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Mormons Told Not to Pray to Jesus

Our relationship with Jesus Christ must be the most important relationship that we ever have.  In addition, the most important avenue we have in cultivating any relationship is through communication.  On March 2, 1982 Bruce McConkie delivered a ‘Fireside and Devotional Speech’ at BYU on the correct protocol for having such a relationship with the ‘godhead’.  Today we’re looking at what McConkie said and comparing it with what God says about a relationship with Him.

 “There are yet others who have an excessive zeal that causes them to go beyond the mark.  Their desire for excellence is inordinate.  In an effort to be truer than true they devote themselves to gaining a special, personal relationship with Christ that is both improper and perilous.”

 Get ready…he’s going to tell us that having a personal relationship with Jesus is a hobby that is unholy.

 “I say perilous because this course, particularly in the lives of some who are spiritually immature, is a gospel hobby that creates an unwholesome holier-than-thou attitude.  In other instances it leads to despondency because the seeker after perfection knows he is not living the way he supposes he should.  Another peril is that those so involved begin to pray directly to Christ because of some special friendship they feel has been developed.  In this connection a current and unwise book, which advocates gaining a special relationship with Jesus, contains this sentence – ‘Because the Savior is our mediator, our prayers go through Christ to the Father, and the Father answers our prayers through His Son.’  This is plain sectarian nonsense.”     –Bruce McConkie, March 2, 1982

 Shocking isn’t it?  I found this to be one of the top ten most heretical teachings of the Church.  All throughout scripture we read that God wants nothing more than for us to have a personal relationship with His Son Jesus Christ.  The apostle John goes into great detail on how to achieve this and what it means to know and love Him in 1st John, in fact the letter was directed to the saints to beware of the Gnostics.  The theme for chapter one is fellowship with Christ.  Then Peter tells us in his second epistle how important it is to know Jesus Christ.

As you’re aware, there are different kinds of knowledge.  I know President Bush.  I’ve seen him on television and heard him speak.  And then there’s the knowledge that is on the more intimate level.  I know my good friends; I’ve shared meals and prayed with them.  Most importantly I know Jesus Christ.

In 2nd Peter 1:8; it says; “For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

He’s telling us that we need to know Him, really know Him.  Our salvation is dependent upon this knowledge of the Lord and He wants nothing less than for us to be with Him.

In vs. 8 the word knowledge in the Greek is epignosis.  It means the full discernment or recognition of.  This is the same type of knowledge as found in 1 Peter 3:7; having the experience of knowing someone very well.

Let’s look at 2 Peter 1:5;   “And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge.”    The word knowledge here is gnosis.  This means the act of knowing (as by science).  This type of knowledge enables us to avoid error.  We see this example again in 2 Peter 3:18; “But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.”

The next example is the word gnosko.  It means to know experientially, to be sure of.

1 John 2:13-14; “I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.  I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning.”

Hebrews 3:10; “Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, they do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.”

Oh dear ones don’t be tempted or fooled by statements such as the ones given by McConkie.  It is vital and necessary to really know Jesus Christ.  Your relationship with Him can and should be the most important relationship you’ll ever have in your life.  It should be above your relationship with your spouse, your children and your friends.  No one can compare with Him!

Here are some other things said by McConkie in this speech:

 “I shall speak of our relationship with the Lord and of the true fellowship all saints should have with the Father.  I shall set forth what we must believe relative to the Father and the Son in order to gain eternal life…

There is no salvation in believing any false doctrine, particularly a false or unwise view about the Godhead or any of its members.  Eternal life is reserved for those who know God and the One whom He sent to work out the infinite and eternal atonement…”

 I pray the Mormons think about the statement by McConkie and sincerely contemplate the following things;

 Why isn’t it arrogant to believe you can become a god?

What is so improper and perilous about having a relationship with Jesus Christ?

If the verses I used are mistranslated, what are the correct translations?

Why does the Bible have so many references to having a relationship with His Son if we aren’t supposed to do that?

Why is praying to Jesus wrong?

 My heart is so sad over this speech.  I think of all the blessings that are missed out on by not having a deep relationship with Jesus and cannot imagine what it would be like to live like that again.  The main blessing of course is our salvation.  This subject is far more important than just the ‘little red school house’ or ‘mother love’.  I don’t get my feathers ruffled over such trivial things.  The truth is that he is lying about God and Jesus Christ.  The truth is that we are told by God to love and know Jesus Christ and not to be tricked into believing that knowledge will gain our salvation.  You can read about all these things from the epistle of second Peter of being diligent, to John’s first epistle teaching us about the love of God and how to abide in Him; these are the quintessential truths of His Word.

The basics of Christianity are to know and worship God.  We do this by accepting His Son as the atoning sacrifice on the cross.  We also worship Him by knowing that having a true relationship can only be done through communication.  My husband and I have a strong marriage because we have an open line of communication at all times.  I can’t imagine not talking with my husband each day of my life.  It would be no relationship at all.  Prayer is and must be the necessary element of any Christian’s life!

Being a Christian also means knowing our position within the boundaries of the relationship, being a follower of the Lord and knowing His Word.  I’m not bringing God down to my level by worshipping His Son.  I’m worshipping God the Father by worshipping His Son.

I’ve been in ministry work for over ten years now and each time I quote McConkie I am told that his writings, etc., are not what the church believes.  To this I say; hogwash!  This is what the church believes, they do listen to him and they do obey his council, even since his death in 1985.  His writings and speeches are listed all over their products and still sold in their bookstores.

He didn’t teach anything that the church didn’t already teach.  I would encourage the Mormon to visit the website of BYU to see the speech in full.  You can read it for yourself and then read what Jesus has to say about a relationship with Him!

 www.byu.edu   You’ll find his speech under ‘Devotionals’.  The title of the speech is; ‘Our Relationship with the Lord’.

 

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                                                  Mormon Food Storage

     Not long after I became a member of the Mormon Church I started learning about the LDS principle of food storage.  In every General Conference broadcast, at least one LDS leader would use words like preparedness and self-reliance in their talk on planning. . Their talk would usually include the verse from the Mormon scripture Doctrine and Covenants 38:30 that says; “if ye are prepared ye shall not fear.”  Their message conveyed that storing food and other essentials was a commandment from God and if we didn’t heed this warning then we were somehow less righteous then the rest of our fellow Latter-day Saints who did.  Not long ago, the members were told to have a year’s supply.

Now memebers are told to have at least three-month supply to begin with, then they can work on getting their year supply.  If this idea of food storage were from God, why would he change the amount of food he wants us to store? 

If the Mormons believe  their god is an all-knowing god he would be able to give them an exact amount of food they should store for the exact amount of time they would need it.

    The Mormon leaders tell members they’ll need this food and supplies before the Second Coming.  They’re told that there are going to be many wars and calamities making it impossible for them to get to a store to buy food.  This sounds like they have an absence of complete faith and trust in God in their religion.  They’re putting their trust in mortal man telling them what to store, how to store it, and how much of it to store.  They aren’t trusting in the Creator of the universe to provide for them.

When I think about all the ways God has taken care of His follows in Biblical times, I can’t understand why the LDS think He wouldn’t do the same now.  We need to look no further than the Israelites in Exodus to see how God provides for His people.  If we believe in an all powerful, caring, loving God, why would He not see to it that our needs are meet when we ask?

   Matthew 6:30-33 reads;

      “Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore, take no thought, saying What shall we eat? Or What shall we drink? Or Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But see ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”

     Recently I learned about a man by the name of George Muller. Pastor Muller was an awesome man of God, spending most of his life in England where he pastored many churches.  He had a heart for the orphans of England and established many orphanages.  He never went out and asked people for money, nor did he go into debt to keep the orphanages going.  Pastor Muller simply relied on God to provide, and he was blessed mightily for his faith. In one of his sermons he said;

 “Think not, dear reader, that I have the gift of faith, that is, that gift of which we read in 1 Corinthians 12:9, and which is mentioned along with “the gifts of healing,” “the working of miracles, ”prophecy,” and that on that account I am able to trust in the Lord. It is true that the faith, which I am enabled to exercise, is altogether God’s own gift; it is true that He alone supports it, and that He alone can increase it; it is true that, moment by moment, I depend upon Him for it, and that, if I were only one moment left to myself, my faith would utterly fail; but it is not true that my faith is that gift of faith which is spoken of in 1 Corinthians 12:9.”

     It concerns me the LDS don’t feel that they can rely on Jesus Christ to help them in times of need, but on their own righteousness and obedience. In a letter to the LDS people the First Presidency of the LDS Church said;

 “We encourage you to follow this counsel with the assurance that a people prepared through obedience to the commandments of God need not fear.”First Presidency Letter, 24 June 1988

    Past president of the LDS Church Ezra Taft Benson said; “The Lord was warned us of famines, but the righteous will have listened to prophets and stored at least a year’s supply of survival food”. (Ensign, Jan 1974, page 68)

   So if someone could not afford to have a year’s supply of food they are not “righteous”?  The “survival food” Mr. Benson is speaking of doesn’t have to be food that you or your family will eat. Mr. Faust explains it this way;

 “Every father and mother are the family’s storekeepers. They should store whatever their own family would like to have in the case of an emergency. Most of us cannot afford to store a year’s supply of luxury items, but find it more practical to store staples that might keep us from starving in case of emergency.” (James E. Faust, ‘The Responsibility for Welfare Rests with Me and My Family,’ Ensign, May 1986, 20)

      Wouldn’t storing food this way create waste?  If it’s only food that you and your family would eat in case of an emergency what happens when there is no “emergency” and the food expires?  What is the point in storing the food in the first place if its food their family will not eat unless they are starving?

    In closing, I just want to say I think that having a little extra food and essentials on hand would be beneficial depending upon where you live.  Some of us may live in climates’ where we receive a lot of snowfall.  Having some extra food, blankets, alternative heating, and power supply would be very helpful.  What we must keep in mind is that throughout the Bible God tells us not to fear but trust in Him.  No matter what lies ahead of us, He will provide for us.

     Psalm 56:4 reads; “In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.”

     I pray that the LDS people will begin to trust in God more and know He will watch over them.

 In Christ,

Melissa Grimes (melissa@lifeafter.org)

 

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Duties of an LDS Bishop

 Bishops in the LDS Church are called the “judge in Israel” for the wards and branches of the Church (Gospel Principles: Priesthood Organization, Chapter 14). They have many responsibilities throughout the Church, aside from conducting meetings. The Bishop and his counselors are over the different organizations in the Church, such as: the Young Men’s, Priesthood Quorum, Sunday school class, and Primary, as well as the organizations for the women, the Relief Society, and Young Women’s. In addition to all that they are to make sure that the leadership positions in these organizations are filled.

When you are “called” to a position in the Church, it is said that the Lord wants you to be in this position, this calling (The Latter-day Saint Woman, Part B Lesson 28, Serving in the Church). You are expected to accept this position. If you choose not to accept, it’s frowned upon. After all, are you going to say “no” to the Lord? (Dallin H. Oaks, November 2002, Ensign)

In my old ward there was a couple my husband and I were close to. The wife, “Jennifer” was dying of cancer; while this was happening, her husband “Tim” was called to be a Stake Missionary. This calling requires the person called to invest much of their free time away from home, going out with the missionaries to their appointments, and giving new members, the “new member” discussions.  When I asked why Tim would be given such a calling when it seemed that his wife needed him more, I was told that it’s what the Lord wanted. I couldn’t believe for one second that the Lord would want him to be away from his wife when she needed him the most.

     Another duty of a Bishop is to interview the people for the temple recommends. As of July 2000, there is a list of 15 questions the Bishop asks the member. Remember these men are considered the “judge” of these people, they represent God.  The questions are as follows: (The Bishops Manual)

1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord’s house and participate in temple ordinances?

     As you can see, some of these questions are very personal, what business is it of anyone, what you drink, if you pay a full tithe, or what kind of underwear you have on?  In the LDS Church the Bishop is your judge, in a November 2003 Ensign, President Gordon B. Hinckley tells the priesthood at General Conference the areas in which the Bishop judges the church members:

“You cannot compromise your qualifications to sit as a common judge in Israel. It is a fearsome and awesome responsibility to stand as a judge of the people. You must be their judge in some instances as to worthiness to hold membership in the Church, worthiness to enter the house of the Lord, worthiness to be baptized, worthiness to receive the priesthood, worthiness to serve missions, worthiness to teach and to serve as officers in the organizations. You must be the judge of their eligibility in times of distress to receive help from the fast offerings of the people and commodities from the storehouse of the Lord. None for whom you are responsible must go hungry or without clothing or shelter though they be reluctant to ask. You must know something of the circumstances of all of the flock over whom you preside.”

     Jesus is our judge, our authority, our Savior. How could a mortal man, who is full of sin himself judge another worthy of the things mentioned in the quote above? Such questions on chastity, tithing and family matters should be between you and God, unless YOU choose to discuss it with you church leader. Jesus is the one who puts it on your heart to serve; no one can look inside your heart to see if you are “worthy” enough to serve.

     Jesus has authority over us, given to him by God. He suffered and died for us, he paid for our sins on the cross, so we might have eternal life. I would rather stand in judgment before Jesus Christ who was and is perfect in every way versus a mortal man who is no better than me. Colossians 2:16:17 tells us not to let any man judge us, even what we eat or drink we only answer to Christ, no one else.

     When a member commits a serious sin they must confess it to their Bishop. He then helps them through the repentance process. During this time the member may not be allowed to hold church callings, take the sacrament or participate in any class discussions. If needed he presides over any disciplinary council or “Court of Love” as it’s sometimes called, the person on “trial” so to speak, can be disfellowshipped or excommunicated. All this depends on how bad the sin is and how remorseful the church member is; in the end the Bishop will tell the member when their repentance process is complete.

     As President Hinckley stated above they are to judge who needs financial help and who doesn’t. The LDS members are encouraged to not accepted assistance from the government (D&C 78:13-14). They want the members to come to the Bishop if they are in need of financial help. The Church asks members to pay a “fast” offering in addition to the tithing. The “fast” offering comes from when the members who fast once a month give a “generous” fast offering.

“In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, members are encouraged to fast whenever their faith needs special fortification and to fast regularly once each month on fast day. On that day, we go without eating or drinking for two consecutive meals, commune with our Heavenly Father, and contribute a fast offering to help the poor. The offering should be at least equal to the value of the food that would have been eaten. Typically, the first Sunday of each month is designated as fast Sunday. On that day, members who are physically able are encouraged to fast, pray, bear witness to the truthfulness of the gospel, and pay a generous fast offering.”   Joseph B. Wirthlin, July 2001 Liahona

     In exchange for the finiancial help, church the members if able, are asked to help with cleaning the church, the church grounds or the Bishop;s storehouse if they live near one (I have a question, March Ensign 1978). Wanting its members to come to them for help isn’t in its self a bad thing. My concern is what happens if someone becomes dependant on the Church for assistance and they discover the church isn’t what it claims to be. What if the Lord wants to lead them out of the LDS church?  Members would feel like they couldn’t leave the Church “after all the Church has done for them”. It creates this false sense of loyalty, that no matter what, they have to stay active members of the church, because they owe the Church so much.

     As I said before Jesus is our judge. He is the only one who can judge us justly, and fairly. I wish that the LDS could know the freedom that comes from knowing the Jesus of the Bible. There is liberty in Christ. Galatians 5:1 reads, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage”.

In Christ,

Melissa Grimes, melissa@lifeafter.org

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Anti-Mormon vs. Anti-Mormonism

      When I was a Mormon a name they used for anyone who opposed the Church was “anti-Mormon”. The term anti-Mormon covers a huge spectrum to the members of the Mormon Church. There’s a mindset within the Church that if you aren’t with them you’re against them. They expect Christians to just ignore the major doctrinal differences between Mormonism and mainline Christianity. They want all of us to just accentuate the positive things about their religion, not worrying about the rest.

     Granted, there are groups that do appear to be less than kind to the Mormon people and there are others who can love the Mormon people while at the same time highly disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. Many of the Mormons I have spoken with have told me that they see no difference between someone politely conversing with them using the Bible and someone screeching at them on a street corner, sign in hand telling them they’re going to hell. Both instances are perceived to be anti-Mormon, and enemies of the Church.

     Through this experience I’ve come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter how you try to present the Gospel to the lost they will still find offense to it. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is offensive to those who don’t believe. Especially to the Mormons when you try to show them how the doctrines of their religion are not in line with the Bible. You may wonder as I have why the LDS think that people, who oppose the doctrines of their church, oppose them as well. In the process of reading and researching for this article I found the following quote;

 “Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies”. Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign May 1980

     Two years later he says it again. “Be of good cheer, for the Lord is guiding His church. Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies.” (Ensign May 1982)

     These quotes bring me to the title of this article. There is a huge difference in being against the Mormon people (anti-Mormon) and being against the doctrines of the Mormon Church (anti-Mormonism).

     For a Mormon to call someone an “anti-Mormon” is to call them something that is profane and vile. At least this is how the name was perceived when I was a Mormon. If a fellow church member called something or someone an anti-Mormon I knew to stay away. In Mormonism there’s an underlying persecution complex in the mindset of the Mormon. It usually kicks in not long after they are baptized into the Church when non-LDS friends and family start voicing their concerns about Mormonism.

     The new member may be exposed to literature that’s not church approved and paints the Church in a bad light, or they may run across someone who is a former Mormon who tells them about their exodus out of Mormonism. It’s just easier for the Mormons to slap the anti-Mormon label on an individual’s forehead or the cover of a book rather than take a step back and consider if there are valid concerns to be had about the Church.

     I know there maybe a few people in the world who are against the Mormon people for whatever reason, I’m not going to dispute that. Generally speaking, the people the Mormons are so quick to call their enemies and other names are just people who disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. They have compared and contrasted their findings about Mormonism to Biblical research. I’m not talking about pulling stuff out of the air or off any random website discussing Mormonism.

     These people honestly looked at the historicity of Mormonism, its leaders, and its scripture. So if people are honestly researching, reading the materials the Mormon Church has already provided, and from there draw their own conclusion that Mormonism is a fraud, does that still make them “anti-Mormon” or does it make them “anti-Mormonism”?

     I believe the problem of being quick to judge someone who opposes the Church stems from the notion the Mormons have that tells them “they are their religion”. They put on a pure, happy, clean cut image for the world. When someone speaks against their church, while bringing up historical facts about their religion it tarnishes the way they want to be seen. I think maybe when someone shows them the truth about their religion; on some level it hurts their ego. With all those thoughts bouncing around in their heads it’s no wonder the moment someone makes a less than flattering remark about the Mormon Church they go into a defensive mode and think they are being attacked.

     I would love for the Mormon to understand that we aren’t against them. Sadly I know as long as they believe only their Church holds all the keys to salvation, they may never see the difference in an anti-Mormon and someone who is anti-Mormonism.

 In Christ,

Melissa Grimes (melissa@lifeafter.org)

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Joseph Smith Descriptions

         Google the name of Joseph Smith and you’ll find a plethora of websites that either lauds the praises of Smith or those who show vehement hatred for the man.  My objective for this list of descriptions isn’t to show hatred towards him because I don’t feel hatred for Joseph Smith; however, I am saddened for my people that have chosen to believe in his odious lies.  Our objective for producing articles such as these is to inform and educate.

     Aside from the LDS hymn “Praise to the Man”, let’s find out just how much the Mormon people love the false prophet Joseph Smith.  If the Mormon will stay on this site long enough to see just one egregious falsehood about Smith and begin thinking about it, then I’ve done the job God has given me to do.  Our main objective isn’t to sensationalize, but to inform and lead my people into the ever loving arms of our God and Savior Christ Jesus.

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20 Helps for Mormon Friends and Loved Ones

 1 – Word studies.  See if your Mormon friends would be interested in doing a word study with you!  These are great for the new ex-Mormon as well as for the Mormon.  Just pick your favorite word/topic from the Bible, find all the places in the Bible where this word is used to get the full context and share with each other what you’ve learned.  Make sure you both use a reputable concordance and dictionary.  Also let them know their opinion counts, that what they have to say matters to you personally.  You don’t have to agree with their opinion, but their spiritual condition obviously matters to you or you wouldn’t bother trying.

 2 – Go out of your way to share with the Mormon what Jesus did for you today.  Use scripture to back it up.  Show them how you applied that scripture to make it a personal message from the Lord to you.  Teach them how to read the Bible as a personal letter from God to them personally.

 3 – Invite them to non-threatening events at your church, i.e. women’s teas, men’s breakfasts, dessert theaters, etc. Let them be around Christian ‘things’ as much as possible, i.e., the cross, Bibles that usually lay around churches, actual people inside the church building in the daytime if possible during the week, etc.

 4 – Listen to Christian music while they’re around you so they can hear the words.  Most Christian hymns and songs contain scripture.  Isaiah 55:11 says His words will not return void.

 5 – Have your Bible open to various passages of scripture when they visit.

 6 – Make sure you’re the one that does the praying if the occasion arises and grab their hand to hold it during prayer.  Never fold your arms while praying with a Mormon and don’t allow them to do the praying.  They are not praying to the true God of the Bible, therefore this isn’t something you’d want to submit yourself to either.

 7 – Ask them various questions about their church.  As you know this may cause animosity at some point but it does give them something to think about.  Ask why they have to store food when Jesus told us in the Bible not to worry about tomorrow when it has troubles of its own – Matthew 6:34.  Who is more credible to them personally – Joseph and the living prophet or Jesus Christ; then ask why.

 8 – Ask what their favorite verse is in the Book of Mormon and why.  Tell them you’ve learned the major tenets of Mormonism are not in the Book of Mormon and ask if this is true.  If they say they are, prod them by asking what is in it and where specifically the teaching is located.

 9 – Ask why they don’t have crosses in their homes or wear them in a necklace.  Ask how they feel about the cross and share with them what the cross means to you personally.

 10 – Ask them why God would need Satan to fulfill his plan for mankind. 2 Nephi 2:11; “For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad…”  This is actually a basic tenet within Witchcraft.  Witchcraft believes there must be an equal balance in all things; good for bad and bad for good.  In other words, yin yang.

 11 – Ask them why the book of Jacob says not to practice polygamy but the Doctrine and Covenants says it means exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom (their highest kingdom of heaven).  Jacob 2:24; D&C 132:4-7.

 12 – Ask for their opinion about D&C 1:37 which says the commandments in that book are true and everything will be fulfilled.  Polygamy was outlawed in 1890.

 13 – Ask how dead people can repent.  How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?  Why did Jesus say “It is finished” in John 19:30?  How can dead people work for their salvation?

                                               D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

 14 – Ask what they think of the following information;

 2 Nephi 9:9 describes Satan.  “…yea, to that being that who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself into an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness”.

 1976 Introductory page of Doctrine & Covenants describes Moroni.  “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

 Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed …” (A note to the Christian:  the heavenly messenger Smith is talking about is Moroni, an angel of light.)

 Matthew 26:31-4; “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night…Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.” – Also see 2 Cor. 11:14.

 15 – Ask the Mormon why they have to be baptized at the age of 8 for the remission of sins if they are considered to be without sin until then.  Moroni 8:9-13.

 D&C 68:27; “And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.”

 16 – Ask why the Book of Mormon says the earth was covered in darkness for 3 days at the crucifixion of Jesus.  1 Nephi 19:10; Helaman 14:20, 27; 3 Nephi 8:3.  Compare with Matthew 27:45.  Mormons will tell you earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, lasted for 3 hours and then the darkness lasted for 3 days.  The Bible says no such thing.

 17 – Ask your Mormon loved one if they fully accept the Bible.  The answer to this question varies from person to person.  If there is some hesitation to full acceptance ask why and then offer help to investigate reliable sources outside the LDS Church to find out which scriptures have not been translated correctly.

 18 – Ask the Mormon: “if you died tonight would you go to heaven?”  Most if not all will say they don’t know.  Share your favorite passages from the Bible on how you have assurance of salvation.

 19 – Have you told your Mormon friend who Jesus is from the Bible?  Have you told them He is God incarnate & also prophesied about in the Old Testament 333 times?  Look for other interesting facts about the Bible to share.  These types of things are typically non-threatening.  If they say he is the god of this world show them 2 Cor. 4:4.

 20 –Do a simple Bible study with them just on Isaiah chapter 53.  There are 48 prophecies of Jesus in that one chapter alone and each of them has been fulfilled!  LDS doctrines teach some of these prophecies are about Joseph Smith.

 Also see How to Witness http://www.lifeafter.org/how_to_witness.asp

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Interesting Facts about the 3 – in – 1 – Part 3

      3-in-1We’re taking a deeper look at the claims of the Triple Combination for the sake of the Mormons as well as the Christians!  So here we go with the third installment of Interesting Facts about the Triple Combination.

 What’s in a Name – again!

 2 Nephi 10:3;

 “Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name.

False Promises

      I asked a few friends to help me count how many verses they could find containing Greek words in the Book of Mormon.  Thanks to everyone’s help we came up with the discovery of several Greek words which appeared in 752 verses throughout the BC era of the Book of Mormon!  The reason for pointing this out is twofold.  First of all why were Greek words being used in the BC era?

Secondly, Smith publicly proclaimed the Book of Mormon contained no such thing!  In Times & Seasons 4:194 it says;

 “There was no Greek or Latin upon the plates from which I, through the grace of God, translated the Book of Mormon Let the language of that book speak for itself.”

      Whenever I am reminded of this scenario I think of what the Apostle Paul told the Galatians in 1:6-9;

 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

      “Why or better yet how, could you not question these things?”  This is the question I receive from Christians all the time when writing in to ask why their loved one has fallen into the trap of Mormonism.  With all of the evidence of plagiarism, lies, and improbabilities, it is amazing that people do not question.  When I was LDS I remember seeing these things and then blaming myself for not understanding or for questioning the Church.  Remember though one of the other things the Apostle Paul warned us about in Ephesians 6:11-12;

 “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 Eve Praises God for Their Sin

      The contradictions found in LDS theology run rampant in regards to the subject of sin.  The average Mormon truly believes two things that are diametrically opposed to what God declares.  1 – Man is inherently evil.  2 – They believe it was necessary that Adam & Eve sin.

     As you dig deeper into Mormon theology, you can easily see how they keep members confused.  The following two examples are found in the Pearl of Great Price.  As you can see in the first example they are lauding Eve’s choice and in another instance they are being taught that by sinning you are choosing to be separated from God.

 Moses 5:11; “And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

 Moses 6:48-50; “And as Enoch spake forth the words of God, the people trembled, and could not stand in his presence.  48 And he said unto them: Because that Adam fell, we are; and by his fall came death; and we are made partakers of misery and woe.  49 Behold Satan hath come among the children of men, and tempteth them to worship him; and men have become carnal, sensual, and devilish, and are shut out from the presence of God.  50 But God hath made known unto our fathers that all men must repent.

      Compare this with what the Bible says in Romans 3:23;

 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

      Also see Rom. 5:12;

 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”

 The Making of Mankind

      Moses 2:27;

 “And I, God, created man in mine own image, in the image of mine Only Begotten created I him; male and female created I them.”

      If God created male and female after His own image and God is an exalted man as they claim in D&C 130:22, would this mean that God is also an exalted woman?

 Timeliness is of the Utmost Importance…

 Abraham 3:24 says;

 “And there stood one among them that was like unto God, and he said unto those who were with him: We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell.

      Where exactly is “down there”?  Wouldn’t that mean there was already something down there that had been created and if so, wouldn’t that contradict Abraham 3:22 which says;

 “Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones.

 Packing Your Bags…Travel Itineraries for Nephites & Jaredites

      First Nephi tells us about the travels of the prophet Lehi and his sons, one of which is Nephi of course.

     Is it reasonable that Lehi and his family could have left Jerusalem and walked 210 miles in three days to get to the Red Sea?  See 1 Nephi 2:4-7.

     Also note 1 Nephi 2:6, 8 which tells us Nephi & company traveled 3 days in the wilderness to get to the Red Sea and then set up camp next to a river called Laman.

 1 – Most travelers in those days could travel roughly 15 miles on a really good day’s travel.  The distance between the northern tip of the Red Sea to Jerusalem is approximately 153 miles.  That’s roughly ten or so days and as you can see Nephi said he did it in three.  Is this really possible?

2 – There has never been a river that has emptied into the Red Sea; even to this day.  There are and have been canals built for shipping for the past 200-300 years, but no rivers.

      The story in Nephi would be considered a false prophecy.  I realize this is “tough language”; but we need to be honest here and call it what it is – a lie.  A good concise map and data can be found at www.encyclopedia.com for info on this subject.

     In the book of Ether we find Jared, his family and friends building and then packing their boat for the trip to the Promised Land.  There are several items of note within this text that we could spend a good amount of time in, however let’s just look at a few interesting “facts”.

 In Ether 2:2 it says;

 “And they did also lay snares and catch fowls of the air; and they did also prepare a vessel, in which they did carry with them the fish of the waters.

      If they’re going to be sailing for a bit of time, why would they need to pack fish?  Noah was out on the waters for about 370 days and the Bible doesn’t mention one thing about him packing fish of any kind to take with him.  See Gen. 7:11-13 & Gen. 8:14-15 for length of time Noah was on the Ark.

     Didn’t they (the Jaredites) have any food?  If they didn’t need to eat the fish, where were they kept – an aquarium?

 Ether 2:18-20 says;

 “And it came to pass that the brother of Jared cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord, I have performed the work which thou hast commanded me, and I have made the barges according as thou hast directed me.  19 And behold, O Lord, in them there is no light; whither shall we steer? And also we shall perish, for in them we cannot breathe, save it is the air which is in them; therefore we shall perish.  20 And the Lord said unto the brother of Jared: Behold, thou shalt make a hole in the top, and also in the bottom; and when thou shalt suffer for air thou shalt unstop the hole and receive air. And if it be so that the water come in upon thee, behold, ye shall stop the hole, that ye may not perish in the flood.

      Why didn’t the Lord remember to put air holes in the “barges” so they could breathe and why was there a “plug” in the bottom of the boat?  How could air come into the boat if you’re using the plug in the bottom?  Wouldn’t only water be coming through?

 Why was there an Apostasy?

      3 Nephi 28:1-18 is the account of when Jesus told three of the Nephites they would never die.  (Also see “This is My Gospel, Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual”, pg. 185)*

     Here we have a few people wandering the earth with the “truth” and no one intervenes to warn the Christians they were falling into an apostasy?

     The history of Joseph Smith in 1:19 says that God told Joseph not to join any of the churches, for they were all wrong.

 Joseph Smith History 1:19; “I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

      For a concise explanation of what the Church considers to be “the Apostasy” see what the Apostle Bruce McConkie said in Mormon Doctrine, pg. 699;

 “Existence of the sects of Christendom is proof positive of the universal apostasy. Truth is one; Christ is not divided; those who enjoy the Spirit, all speak the same things; there are no divisions among them; but they are “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” (1 Cor. 1:10-13.) When Joseph Smith retired to the Sacred Grove, it was to ask the Lord which of all the sects was right and which he should join. The answer: “I must join none of them, for they were all wrong.” (Jos. Smith 2:14-20.)

      Of course we know this is nothing but lies.  Jesus promises us in Matthew 16:18 that His church will always stand the test of time!

 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

    Dietary Laws for the People of the Book of Mormon

      It is difficult at best to believe the Jewish people wouldn’t know or understand Torah.  The life of a typical Israelite is lived obeying and observing it.  The country they lived in or traveled through wouldn’t matter; they knew the Law just as much as you and I know the pledge of allegiance as it was ingrained in them from one generation to the next.

 About Wine:

      This first example puzzles me because here we have a direct example of how to take the Lord’s Supper using wine.  Apparently this wasn’t a sin, but now it is?  Also note how they prayed in the name of the Eternal Father.  The god of Mormonism isn’t eternal.

 Moroni 5:1-2;

 “The manner of administering the wine—Behold, they took the cup, and said:  2 O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee, in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this wine to the souls of all those who drink of it, that they may do it in remembrance of the blood of thy Son, which was shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.

 About Raw Meat:

 1 Nephi 17:2;

 “And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men; and they began to bear their journeyings without murmurings.

 1 Nephi 17:12;

 “For the Lord had not hitherto suffered that we should make much fire, as we journeyed in the wilderness; for he said: I will make thy food become sweet, that ye cook it not.

 Lev. 7:26-27;

 “Moreover ye shall eat no manner of blood, whether it be of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings. 27 Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

 Lev. 19:26;

 “Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

 About Swine:

 Ether 9:18;

 “And also all manner of cattle, of oxen, and cows, and of sheep, and of swine, and of goats, and also many other kinds of animals which were useful for the food of man.

 Leviticus 11:7-8; “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

How Did Ammon Know to Quote Jesus in 90 BC?

Alma 19:10;

 “And Ammon said unto her: Blessed art thou because of thy exceeding faith; I say unto thee, woman, there has not been such great faith among all the people of the Nephites.

      It’s obvious that Smith is plagiarizing Jesus.  How would someone in Mesoamerica know to say something like this 120 years before it was said by Jesus Himself in Luke 7:9;

 “When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

Personal Injuries

 1 N 4:19-21;

 “And after I had smitten off his head with his own sword, I took the garments of Laban and put them upon mine own body; yea, even every whit; and I did gird on his armor about my loins.  20 And after I had done this, I went forth unto the treasury of Laban. And as I went forth towards the treasury of Laban, behold, I saw the servant of Laban who had the keys of the treasury. And I commanded him in the voice of Laban, that he should go with me into the treasury.  21 And he supposed me to be his master, Laban, for he beheld the garments and also the sword girded about my loins.

      Notice there was no mention of any blood found upon the body of Nephi from the beheading of Laban…Alma 44:12-16;

 “And now when Moroni had said these words, Zerahemnah retained his sword, and he was angry with Moroni, and he rushed forward that he might slay Moroni; but as he raised his sword, behold, one of Moroni’s soldiers smote it even to the earth, and it broke by the hilt; and he also smote Zerahemnah that he took off his scalp and it fell to the earth…16 Now it came to pass that Zerahemnah was exceedingly wroth, and he did stir up the remainder of his soldiers to anger, to contend more powerfully against the Nephites.

      Zerhemnah gets scalped and all it says is that he’s “wroth”?  I would imagine that I’d be a little more than angry if I got scalped.

 Twelve years of war and not one person died… really?  Alma 56:56;

 “But behold, to my great joy, there had not one soul of them fallen to the earth; yea, and they had fought as if with the strength of God; yea, never were men known to have fought with such miraculous strength; and with such mighty power did they fall upon the Lamanites, that they did frighten them; and for this cause did the Lamanites deliver themselves up as prisoners of war.

Living Under Law

    The following verse in the Doctrine and Covenants make me absolutely heart sick for the Mormon people and angry with the leadership that will not tell the truth about God.  Memories of my mother working herself almost to death for the sake of a false gospel has left me baffled on many an occasion.

     If we were to work under the Law then why pray tell even bother with the Jesus side of things?

 D&C 132:32;

 “Go ye, therefore, and do the works of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.

      There are two passages of scripture that keep coming to mind whenever I read this in the Mormon “scripture”.  Romans 4:2-3 and Galatians 2:20-21;

 “For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

 “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      Clearly we are living under grace now, if you’ve accepted the Messiah actually delivered on His promises that is.  The scripture is also very clear about living under the Law:

 Galatians 5:3-4; “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 Romans 5:19; “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

      Notice how Paul said that by one man’s obedience.  This demonstrates it isn’t by your works or my works, it is by one person’s obedience, that being Jesus Christ.

 Deacons

     The list of discrepancies, contradictions and outright lies are many in the teachings of the LDS Church, so when I’m going through my list of what to publish for these articles, I am trying to just pull out the most prevalent.  This particular subject matter caught my attention because of its levity.

     When we take communion it is a very serious event for those of us who participate in it.  In fact the Apostle Paul said this in 1 Cor. 11:26-27 regarding the Lord’s Supper;

 “For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.

      I could go on and on about the elements of bread & wine or juice in the Christian churches vs. the “Wonderbread” and water the LDS Church uses and the way they administer it with everyone just eating and drinking at their own will, but that’s for another time…

     The LDS Church ascribes to the teachings of Joseph Smith by observing the perfunctory ordinances at each and every event, but I am left to wonder why they haven’t changed their “scripture” for this one.

     D&C 20:58 says;

 “But neither teachers nor deacons have authority to baptize, administer the sacrament, or lay on hands.”

      This must have been a pretty important rule if Smith thought enough of it to make it “scripture”, so I have to ask the proverbial “why” on this one.  Mormon Doctrine pg. 361 says this about the deacons and sacrament;

 “Twelve-year-old LDS males usually receive the Aaronic Priesthood and are ordained deacons, continuing in that priesthood office until age fourteen. Deacons receive assignments from their bishops that may include distributing the Sacrament to the congregation, serving as messengers, collecting fast offerings, providing assistance to the elderly or disabled, and caring for the meetinghouse and grounds.

      Again, please know that we don’t publish our findings or write these articles to bash or demean the Mormon people.  We love the people dearly and our prayer is that they will come to know the real Jesus Christ of the Bible who died for them.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

 *The following “note” appears at the end of page 185 in Gospel Doctrines Teachers Manual.  It’s interesting how they teach their members to keep secret about things and to not discuss them amongst each other.  Could it be they might logically come to the conclusion this was a fabricated story?  “Note: Stories often circulate about the three Nephites who were translated. Members of the Church should be careful about accepting or retelling these stories. You should not discuss them in class.”

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burning in the bosom 2This article came about because of an e-mail I received last month (November 2008).  Someone wrote in to comment about another article I wrote called “Mormon Lifestyles”.

     The person who wrote in kept telling me they “feel” that my article wasn’t telling the whole truth.  That part of his e-mail led into the subject we’re discussing now; feelings.

     The LDS Church has taught and continues to teach it is important to rely upon your feelings to know if something is from God or if it’s not from God.  They get this from Doctrine and Covenants 9:7-9.  We want to know – is this really biblical?  It is from verse eight they get the phrase “burning in the bosom” so let’s look at this in context.

 “Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me. 8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right. 9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.”

      The above passage is part of a supposed revelation from God to Joseph Smith meant for Oliver Cowdery.  In Latter-day Prophets and the Doctrine and Covenants 1:85 it tells us that Cowdery didn’t have sufficient faith to translate the symbols with the Urim and Thummim, thus the chastisement from the Lord.

     The “commentary” on this part of Doctrine and Covenants goes into detail describing how Cowdery didn’t know his place as being a scribe and should seek out God by paying attention to the feelings in his heart.  But what of our passage mentioned above?  Are we really expected to “study it out in our minds” and then wait for a “burning in the bosom”?  If this is really the case then certainly we can find evidence of such an important subject in the Bible, right?

     Oswald Chambers once talked about “taking possession of our own soul”.  His message was taken from Luke 21:19.  He was describing the new life we live when we first get saved and as time goes by slipping back into our old selves again.  The one thing that caught my attention was when he said we shouldn’t always be blaming Satan for circumstances around us as they are usually a result of actions we take because of our moods.  Here’s an excerpt from that sermon;

 “There are certain things in life that we need not pray about—moods, for instance. We will never get rid of moodiness by praying, but we will by kicking it out of our lives. Moods nearly always are rooted in some physical circumstance, not in our true inner self.

         So are the “feel good feelings” from reading the Book of Mormon because it’s true, or because as my mother pointed out one day it reminds her of grandpa?  I am led to believe it’s the latter; and this of course is spiritual suicide.

     In addition to this passage the Mormon missionaries will also tell you to pray about Moroni 10:4-6;

 “And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.6 And whatsoever thing is good is just and true; wherefore, nothing that is good denieth the Christ, but acknowledgeth that he is.”

     Again, how can we trust our own heart?  What if we’re just not in the mood to go to church and worship God or do good things for those around us?  What if the feeling for being obnoxious was strong in our hearts?  These two examples are ways of denying Christ so how can you be sure of what to do without the word of God who has already established what is holy and righteous?  Proverbs 28:26 says;

“He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.”

      We must distinguish nice memories in our childhood from truth and sadly enough the truth is that grandpa wasn’t leading his family into the arms of Jesus Christ.  For this topic the four key words to look at in this verse would be “trusteth”, “heart”, “fool” and “wisely”.

 “Trusteth” in the Hebrew is “baòtÖach” (pronounced baw-takh’) means to “hie for refuge”.

(Isn’t it just like our Lord to place this particular word here to firmly remind us that our refuge is found in His word and absolutes?)

The Hebrew word for fool is “kesŒòyl” (pronounced kes-eel).  It means stupid or silly.

The word for heart is “leòb” (pronounced labe). It can literally mean your physical heart or in this case, your mind or intellect.

The last word is wisely.  The Hebrew word is “chokmaòh” (pronounced khok-maw’).  In the English this means wisdom or wit.

       So this verse means “those who takes refuge in his own mind/intellect is stupid or silly, but those who follow with wisdom will be saved”.  Imagine; it has nothing to do with your mood, a feeling or a physical sensation!

     What if the burning in the bosom is a result of hanging out with friends who are supportive when you’re following their agenda?  Dr. Walter Martin once said; “Don’t explain Christianity by experiential reasoning but through demonstrative explanation”.  I can personally vouch that goose-bump moments come and go with the wind; God’s truth stands forever.

     You can read more of my “proof” on this subject in my own testimony.  It stands as a clear example that our behaviors can and do change.  In April of 1984 I actually spat on Ed Decker.  Besides being very unladylike, not to mention gross, God still performs miracles.  I hadn’t been active in the Church for two years at the point I made a lame attempt at defending Mormonism and I didn’t even agree with half of what they taught by that time.  I couldn’t articulate why I didn’t agree with it; I just knew something was wrong and I wasn’t looking forward to being eternally pregnant.  For thirty years the “burning in the bosom” fueled my behavior in defending a lie.

 Christians live out their faith based on what is known, not by what they feel is right. 

 Here is an excerpt from my response to the person who e-mailed us.

 “We make a confession of faith based on the fact that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came here to die for our sins and then was resurrected on the third day so that we may have eternal life.  People aren’t given a “general salvation” because He died.  Those who believe are seen as pure and clean because of His death and our subsequent individual commitment made on decisions, not feelings.

Faith is different from feelings.  Faith is based upon what you know to be true.  The old adage of knowing the chair is going to withstand your weight when you sit in it is a classic example of faith.  Feelings change from day to day because of human emotions and cannot, nor should they, be trusted.”

     A few questions for members of the LDS Church:

If you trust the burning in the bosom theory how do you feel about polygamy today?

How are you going to feel about it when/if you are in heaven?

How’s your spouse going to feel about it?

How do you feel knowing Joseph Smith wouldn’t be receiving a temple recommend if he was alive today?

What about blacks?

Should they be in the Church?

How do you feel with a black president?

    You see, the “feeling good” standard has no standing in God’s righteous holy ways.  God is unchanging.  Now the Church members all say the same thing; “Oh the “anti’s” all beat on the same topics all the time, they can’t come up with anything new…”  The reason we “anti’s” do this is because God hasn’t changed.  His plans haven’t changed, His righteous ways haven’t changed, but mankind has changed.

 Where in the Bible does God condone polygamy?

Where in the Bible does God condemn the black race?

Where in the Bible did God say it was okay to murder babies?

Abortion is murder so why is it acceptable in this world and even in Mormonism?

 Ensign, November 1998, pg. 71; Abortion is an ugly thing, a debasing thing, a thing which inevitably brings remorse and sorrow and regret…While we denounce it, we make allowance in such circumstances as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape, when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have serious defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

     If by this standard I had followed the counsel of doctors and the leaders in my church (LDS), my kids wouldn’t be here.  In the summer of 1990 military doctors told me to abort my oldest daughter Jacqui, she’s seventeen years old now.  They were convinced they couldn’t find a steady heartbeat for two appointments in a row.  They felt that something could be wrong with her future health.  Jacqui was born with her father’s engineering mind, graduates from high school this year and is planning on attending college in Germany to become a missionary for troubled teens.  She is working towards her pilot’s license, plays violin and the guitar.  She started a Bible study at the public school she attends after years of it being non-existent.  I cannot imagine my life without her presence each day and aside from an occasional cold, she’s in perfect health.

     Axi, my sixteen year old would also be dead.  She gets straight A’s, sings in choir at school, sings and plays piano for the youth group at church, attends Bible studies and is a source of joy every day of my life.  Her crime?  In 1992 Axi was born with a cleft lip and palate and a slight heart murmur.  The doctors told me it’d be understandable if I chose to abort and would arrange for my wishes to be carried through.  Because a test for Lyme disease came back with a false positive they were convinced she’d have horrible birth defects and serious problems.

     God tells us in Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”; this of course is the sixth commandment!  By the way, the Lyme disease test showed a false positive because I have Multiple Sclerosis.

What if I had felt it’d be too much for me to bear?

What about Axi?

What about God?

     God knows and understands the daily emotional mountains we face each day, that’s why He gave us His word.  Psalm 119:105 says; “Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.”  (The first verse Jacqui memorized.)  His promises are meant to be a constant source of comfort to us when life presents us with new emotions or questions.  The Bible isn’t just a source of mistranslated old works.  God has given you a gift and the Mormon Church has tricked you into believing it’s a mistake!

     You must test the Mormon “scripture” and see if it lines up with what God says in the Bible.  If it doesn’t then you must walk away, as difficult as that may be and usually is, God will give you peace that passes understanding; I’m living proof!  Phil. 4:7.

     Now even more important than our mortal life is the eternal life that’s at stake when we place our trust in our own heart.  While murder is obviously a horrible sin it pales in comparison to living outside of God’s presence for eternity just because you trusted in your own feelings.

     If you’re LDS please know that we’re praying for you and know also that you’re not alone!

With Love in Christ;

Michelle …

1 Cor. 1:18

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Joseph Smith and Polygamy

In the 13 years I was a Mormon there was little talk about Joseph Smith and polygamy. Whenever polygamy was brought up the discussion was usually centered on Brigham Young as the one who set the example and paved the way for polygamy in the early Mormon Church.

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January 2 – Who has the authority?  Jesus told the people in Matthew 28:18-20 that all authority had been given to Him in heaven and earth.  He then instructed us to go out and make disciples of all men.

As  Christians we know this scripture is the Great Commission.  We are to go to all the nations and preach the Word of God.  The great omission of the Great Commission is not obeying.     

According to LDS theology “There is but one at a time who holds the keys and the right to receive revelation for the Church, and that man is the President of the Church”.  Doctrines of Salvation 1:283.

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December 31 – Jude 1:24-25; “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.”

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He alone is the One who saves; He alone is the Only Begotten Son.  To Him is all the glory!  My prayer is for the Mormon to know how precious this passage is to me and all of us who call Him Lord and God.  There’s not one Mormon who believes in the Trinity so ask them what they think about the opening page of the Book of Mormon.  Then think about this for a moment and ask yourself; haven’t we all been the woman in John chapter eight; and being so, where would we be if the Mormon Church was right?

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“…the woman thrown at the feet of the Redeemer for judgment…But did the Lord forgive the woman? Could he forgive her? There seems to be no evidence of forgiveness. His command to her was, “Go, and sin no more.” He was directing the sinful woman to go her way, abandon her evil life, commit no more sin, transform her life. He was saying, Go, woman, and start your repentance; and he was indicating to her the beginning step-to abandon her transgressions….The Lord’s prophet Amulek had said emphatically: “. . . Ye cannot be saved in your sins.” (Al. 11:37. Italics added.) It was this same Lord Jesus Christ who made the laws, and he must observe them. Accordingly, how could he have forgiven the woman in her deep sin? When she had had time to repent; when she had abandoned her evil ways and evil associates; when she had made restitution so far as she could; and when she had proved by her works and the living of the commandments that she was “born again” and was a new creature-when she had done these things the forgiveness of the Savior could overshadow her and claim her and give her peace.”  Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, pg. 165.

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December 29 – Revelation 5:6a, 9-10a; “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain…And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”

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This is the second time that John refers to Jesus as the Lamb.  In the gospel of John, he told us of how John the Baptist points to Jesus as the Lamb of God.  In Revelation he tells us that He is the slain Lamb of God, worthy of our praise.  What a beautiful picture we have here of our awesome God!

The word slain literally means cut in the throat for a sacrifice.  His sacrifice is our proof that He paid the price in full for our redemption unto God. 

In Mormon theology, Jesus is a created being.  If this is all he is, wouldn’t it leave room for error, therefore nullifying the Lamb of God without blemish?  How could it be that something created could be perfect?  Saying Jesus was created takes away His omnipotence and lessens the wonder of who God is to us.  They can call him the Lamb of God all they want, but it’s not the Lamb of God of the Bible that was created.

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“God the Eternal Father, our Father in Heaven, is an exalted, perfected, and glorified Personage having a tangible body of flesh and bones. (D. & C. 130:22.) The designation Father is to be taken literally; it signifies that the Supreme Being is the literal Parent or Father of the spirits of all men. (Heb. 12:9.) All men, Christ included, were born as his children in pre-existence. (D. & C. 93:21-23; Moses 1; 2; 3; 4; Abra. 3:22-28.) This is the reason men are commanded to approach Deity in prayer by saying, “Our Father which art in heaven.” (Matt. 6:9.)”  Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 278.

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December 28 – Isaiah 52:13; “Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.”

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The Bible makes it very clear as to who is exalted and who shall be abased.  The theme throughout His word is the same; when you lift yourself up, He will make sure you don’t hold that position for long.  The Gnostics of the Biblical age were the group of Christians who had been expelled from the church.  They claimed they were the only true Christians and salvation came through intelligence gained by yourself which elevated and exalted you to a higher status than the rest of the believers.  They believed you received this intellectual status through secret teachings.  Hmm…this sounds very familiar with something else I know! 

There’s nothing new under the sun.  Ecc. 1:9-10.

Where is our Beloved Kinsman Redeemer in all this?  

Are the marks in His hands making a mark in your life?  If so, how?  

What do they mean to you personally?

When you think upon the baby in the manger can you lower yourself enough to bow at His holy bed?  Can you honestly believe in your heart that this isn’t about you?  Why does it always have to be about sex?  What does that have to do with being saved?

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“To Latter-day Saints, exaltation is a state that a person can attain in becoming like God-salvation in the ultimate sense (D&C 132:17). Latter-day Saints believe that all mankind (except the sons of perdition) will receive varying degrees of glory in the afterlife. Exaltation is the greatest of all the gifts and attainments possible. It is available only in the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom and is reserved for members of the Church of the Firstborn. This exalted status, called eternal life, is available to be received by a man and wife. It means not only living in God’s presence, but receiving power to do as God does, including the power to bear children after the resurrection (TPJS, pp. 300-301; D&C 132:19). Blessings and privileges of exaltation require unwavering faith, repentance, and complete obedience to the gospel of Jesus Christ.”  Encyclopedia of Mormonism, 1-4 vols, 479.

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December 25 – Matthew 1:21; “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”

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Yesterday we saw that the Mormons believe Jesus was born in Jerusalem.  Jerusalem and Bethlehem are not suburbs of each other.  The Mormon will try to tell you otherwise, so don’t be fooled my friend!  Find at least five other names of Jesus and share them with their meanings to the Mormon in your life.  This will be the best Christmas gift they’ll ever receive!  

There’s not a Mormon alive who doesn’t believe they are the ones that save the non-Mormon. 

 Thus, baptizing for the dead, as well as their extensive missionary programs.

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“Let us Latter-day Saints, called to be saviors of men called to be saviors of the world, called to be saviors to introduce that which will save mankind and bring them up from their lowest state into a condition where they will be fit to hold converse with Deity. . . . (CR, April 1918, pp. 16, 18, 22.)”  Roy W. Doxey, comp., Latter-day Prophets and the Doctrine and Covenants, 3: 407.

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December 22 –1 Peter 5:2-4; “Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.”

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Jesus is referred to as the good Shepherd, the great shepherd and others.  But here it says He is the chief Shepherd.  It means there is none other that fills His shoes of authority.  He has the authority over all things, all people, etc.  To Jesus and Him only do we report and rely upon.  So when you show the Mormon this verse ask him or her how it is that only the Mormon Church has the authority for God?

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“Some general authorities are empowered to do one thing and some another. All are subject to the strict discipline the Lord always imposes on his saints and those who preside over them. The positions they occupy are high and exalted…Though general authorities are authorities in the sense of having power to administer church affairs, they may or may not be authorities in the sense of doctrinal knowledge, the intricacies of church procedures, or the receipt of the promptings of the Spirit…Those who join the true Church and keep their covenants gain salvation in the celestial kingdom of God…In the true Church there will be apostles, prophets, true doctrinal teachings, revelation, visions, miracles, healings, the ministering of angels, and all of the gifts of the Spirit…Where these things are found, there is the true Church; where these things are not found, there the true Church is not.”  Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pgs. 134 & 309.

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December 16 – Isaiah 53:5, 11; “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.”

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These are only two of the 48 prophecies in this chapter of Isaiah.  He lived about 700 years before Christ. Ask the Mormon why they believe Jesus paid the price for their sin in the Garden of Gethsemane. 

The Hebrew word for wounded is: chalal.  It means bore, pierced. Our crooked nature needed more than our obligatory sacrifices could atone for, so He willingly hung there for us.  Yet the crucifixion was nothing in pain compared to the sins He had to carry for us.

 Also share Zechariah 12:10 with them.  It says He was pierced.

I realize going over the simplistic part of the gospel may seem redundant for a Christian; however for the Mormon if they are asked the same question repeatedly they will actually begin to think about it.  Remember they need to be taught to take responsibility for their own thinking, just like you taught your toddler.  

You won’t find commentaries or speeches about the sufferings of Jesus in the Mormon writings.  When they refer to the crucifixion they use the term “atonement” and it is coupled with what they think happened here in the Americas at the time He died and how much the early saints of Mormonism have suffered.  Also notice that they say the darkness lasted three days, in the Bible it lasted three hours. 

In addition to all that, when Jesus was crucified people who had been dead in their graves came up out of them.  He came to bring life, not death!  Nowhere in the Bible does it say there was great groaning and howling of the people.  From the biblical accounts the only thing destroyed was the temple and that is something to praise God for!  Why was there a great destruction in Mesoamerica if Jesus was crucified in Israel?

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“And it came to pass that it did last for the space of three days that there was no light seen; and there was great mourning and howling and weeping among all the people continually; yea, great were the groanings of the people, because of the darkness and the great destruction which had come upon them.”  3 Nephi 8:23.

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Symbols of the Occult on the Mormon Temple and Their Meanings

Temple Symbols 3We are not entirely sure of the meaning of all of the symbolic stones and their placement. Neither Joseph Smith nor Brigham Young said too much about these. Brigham Young said, “Figures (symbols) are reduced to reality, and realities are exhibited by figures, and those who have the Spirit and understand, derive great comfort and consolation from that source.” – Loren C. Dunn, Saturday, February 13, 1993, Church News

It’s interesting how they perpetuate the lie without knowing what it means, and it doesn’t bother them.  It’s not the fact that sin exists in this world that shocks me.  It’s how blatantly, in your face, the Mormon Church flaunts their demonic behavior while trying to call it something else, and not knowing what, or whom, they worship.  It reminds me of the Wicked Witch of the West on the Wizard of Oz bent over, and calling out with her cackling voice, “I’ll get you my pretty…”  It’s just downright icky.

Truth is not relative.

When you ask a Mormon what they think of the demonic symbols on the outside of their temples you won’t hear truth, but a canned response of how the symbols correlate with the shifting shadows of the sun throughout the day, or how other symbols mark the revelation of what Joseph Smith had in mind back in Nauvoo, Illinois.

What’s sad about this is how the Mormon people have bought into the lies they’ve been fed by the leaders and don’t question anything at all.  They are much too trusting on these things.  The leadership of the Church, then and now, is the one responsible for these lies.

When you present a Mormon with the truth, they will tell you that symbols mean different things to different people.  That in essence, is what a Mormon woman e-mailed to me when the Nauvoo Temple was being built back in 2002.  In an article I wrote for Saints Alive years ago, I commented the inverted pentagrams were demonic.  The woman told me that it’s all in the eye of the beholder.  Really?  How is evil good?

Another example is when you Bing or Google the phrase “inverted pentagram”, and getting a plethora of opinions.  Some people say the inverted pentagram became a sign for evil when a Frenchman introduced the evil meaning for it in the mid nineteenth century.  Others will tell you it has always been evil, while still others say the pentagram (not inverted) was a sign of the five points of pain of Christ.

Whatever it was in the past is not what it is today.  The inverted pentagram of today is a universal sign of evil, not so for the Mormon.  The majority, if not all, of the markings on these temples either come from mythology, the Masonic Lodge and/or witchcraft.  The pentagram and numerous other symbols are what we’re investigating here today.

We’re providing references of what the LDS Church says the symbols mean, and comparing those with truth.

While looking at these things, we also need to keep Joseph Smith’s background in mind.  He was a Mason, had participated in ceremonial witchcraft by praying in a circle, he went to groves of trees to pray, he used divining rods and stones from which he looked to for inspiration in translating the Book of Mormon.  And if that wasn’t enough, Smith also dabbled (pun intended) in every man made religion imaginable.

As a result of his religious experiences, Mormonism is a mix of just about everything.  In Mormon teachings you’ll find Islam, Masonry, Catholicism, witchcraft, American Folk religion, the occult (the 3 degrees in heaven and marriage in heaven taught in Swedenborgianism), Necromancy, Astrology and Shamanism. All of these are depicted in the symbols on the temples.  Oh, and did I mention a new twist on the Christian vocabulary?

It’s easy to see why Smith proclaimed the Bible is wrong.  (8th Article of Faith)

Many ex-Mormons have some type of connection with family members who are still involved in the Church, so it’s not like we can bring this subject up over dinner one night when the relations are strained to capacity as it is.  Whenever I think about the full implications of what this church has done, and tries to hide, I am reminded of what the apostle Peter wrote about in his first epistle 1:11-12.

I’m saddened whenever I look at a Mormon temple, and can’t help but think of my parents.   I pray that someday, somehow my mother would ask me what the symbols mean so I can tell her the truth without getting into another argument.  Regardless of what some of our readers have to say, the reason we post these truths on this site is not to inflame, but to educate, but mainly to glorify our God, Christ Jesus.

If you’re a member of the LDS Church, we implore you to be objective and patient enough to entertain the idea of truth.  Check our information with other credible sites, and schools, or books.  Typically, a reputable dictionary and encyclopedia will do as well.

For further study on these symbols and their meanings, I encourage you to also visit the websites of Ed Decker, Jim Spencer, Bill McKeever, Eric Barger, etc.

Mormon temples are riddled with occult architecture, both inside and out.  The spooky looks of these symbols should be enough to keep people away, but unfortunately, they don’t.

On the flip side of this, we’ve found that only 25-30% of Mormons are temple worthy and those that do attend temple typically don’t return for more than one visit.  True salvation for the Mormon doesn’t happen unless you achieve godhood status, and that can’t be attained unless you’ve been married in the temple.  After that perfunctory service, it’s also expected for the adherent to return to participate in other endowment ceremonies like baptism for the dead, sealings to family members both dead and alive, as well as proxy marriages for those who are deceased.

In other words, the temple is necessary if you want salvation, but it’s painfully obvious most members of the LDS Church won’t achieve this status.  Like I’ve always said; guilt and shame are never the same…

While doing research for this project I found the following statement made on the website of Myth Encyclopedia.  When compared to the statements of the Church, it’s hard to ignore the similarities.

Most Egyptian religious cults centered on a temple and the daily rituals performed there. Each temple contained images of the cult’s god, generally kept in the innermost part of the building. Daily ceremonies involved clothing, feeding, and praising the god’s image. The pharaoh had overall responsibility for all cults, but the temple priests supervised the daily rituals. Although temple rituals affected the welfare of all the people, common Egyptians rarely took part in them. They attended only special festivals, which often included processions of the god’s images and reenactments of popular myths.

Journal of Discourses 8:203; “We have often told you that we want to build a Temple, but not for convening promiscuous congregations. I inform you, long before you see the walls reared and the building completed, that it will be for the purposes of the Priesthood, and not for meetings of the people…” – Brigham Young

Also see Liahona, October 2010, pg. 28-35, Boyd K. Packer, “The Holy Temple”.

Let’s begin, shall we?

Figure 1  – Close up of stained glass inverted pentagram on Nauvoo temple.

Figure 2  – Star windows accent temple’s upper floor” – “Yearning is fulfilled: Temple is back”, Church News, John L. Hart, May 4, 2002

Mormon Church:

 “Jesus Christ is called the “bright and morning star” (Rev 22:16). The starstones on the Nauvoo Temple, some with their unique lengthened ray, are a fitting symbol of Jesus Christ as the morning star. Additionally, the circle is a symbol of eternity and it is wholly fitting that the symbol of Jesus Christ in the circular windows (five-pointed stars) was framed by a circle.” – Lisle Brown 

Truth:

The inverted pentagram is a sign of evil.  One point down, two points up is a sign calling to evoke all evil earthly powers to come forth.  It is a representation of the great Goat of the witch’s Sabbath.  What concerns us here is what other organizations think of the pentagram and the association the Church has with those groups.

From an excerpt in “The Secret Teachings of All Ages” this is what Masonic author Manly Hall had to say about the pentagram;

In symbolism, an inverted figure always signifies a perverted power…The star with two points upward is also called the “Goat of Mendes,” because the inverted star is the same shape as a goat’s head. When the upright star turns and the upper point falls to the bottom, it signifies the fall of the Morning Star.” – Manly Hall

A circle around a pentagram indicates their power is enhanced.  Witches use upright pentagrams while Satanists use the inverted pentagram.

For the sake of argument, let’s say the inverted pentagram wasn’t bad when the Nauvoo Temple was originally built.

Why did they rebuild the temple in Nauvoo with the inverted pentagram when it was clearly a sign of evil in the twenty-first century?

And let’s say God wanted His people to start building temples again because the veil that was rent in two in the Jewish temple was all for naught.

 What about the personified moonstones?

What about the personified sunstones?

What about the Masonic square and compass used over the angel Moroni weather-vane?

Why were the stone engravings, beehive, all-seeing eye and hand clasps placed on the Salt Lake Temple when God is very clear in the Bible about not participating in these things?

There are a lot of “ifs” in this line of thinking.  A lot of truths would have to be changed if the LDS Temples are truly from God.

Acts 7:37-43 clearly points out that God does not dwell in temples made by unclean hands and reminded them that because of Israel’s sin He indeed carried them out when they bowed to worship stars.

 Moon stones

 Figures 3 & 4 – Personified moonstones on outside of Nauvoo Temple

Figure 5 – Moonstones on outside of Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:   

Located directly above the earthstones, the moon is depicted in its various phases around the temple. The changing moon can represent the stages of human progression from birth to resurrection or represent the patron’s journey from darkness to light.

One of the most prominent features of the pilasters were the base-stones. The base-stones included a deeply carved relief crescent moon facing downward. Although William W. Phelps stated that the moonstones were “new moons” (Lundwall, Temples of the Most High, p. 47), they were clearly crescent moons. Each moon also had a carved face in profile. The personification of the moonstones was perhaps meant to also represent those who dwell in the Terrestrial Kingdom, because the moon represents the glory of that kingdom on the Vision (D&C 76:71, 78).” – Lisle Brown

A symbol can function in one set of relationships and mean one thing.  In another set of relationships, it can have another meaning.  For example, the symbol of the moon, which repeatedly appears on the temple, was usually associated during Renaissance and Counterreformation Catholicism with the Virgin Mary.”  BYU Studies, p 8

Truth:   

Why does the temple have anything on it that is associated with any other church or movement?  Why would they want something on their temple that was also on churches in the “Counterreformation Catholicism”?

The LDS Church has emphatically stressed all churches but their own are the whores of Babylon and yes, that includes the Protestants. 1 Nephi 14:10, Mormon Doctrine, pg. 609, Journal of Discourses 6:167, History of the Church 5:387.

The Wiccans idolize the moon and see it as a pagan goddess.

For the Muslim, the symbol of their god is the moon called Allah.

 For the pagan in ancient and modern times, Diana is the goddess of “light” and “fertility”, represented in the moon and worshipped in groves of trees. Hmmm…groves of trees, sex, temples, and false gods – it all sounds so familiar…

The phrase used by the LDS Church in the first description above should be an eye-opener for the Mormon people.  Why are these occult symbols a representation of the Mormon’s life and  where is the cross????

 John 3:19-20; “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Holiness to the Lord Inscriptions

Figure 6:  Nauvoo Temple, engraving of “Holiness to the Lord”

Figure 7 :  Masonic Holiness Symbol

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Mormon Church:   

The first phrase, “Holiness to the Lord,” is also a millennial declaration about building a Zion to which the Lord can return at his second coming…”  BYU Studies, p 52

 “Inscriptions Just above the windows on the eastern center tower is the inscription “Holiness to the Lord” (Exodus 28:36). This is inscribed somewhere on all temples.

“The House of the Lord” identifies the Temple as “bethel,” or the Lord’s House – the place upon the earth, which is especially built and dedicated to him, where me may now come and “lay his head” (Matt 8:20).” – NAUVOO TEMPLE EXTERIOR SYMBOLISM, By Lisle Brown

 Truth:

 How can you honestly believe the Lord will return to that one specific place at His return?  What about Jerusalem?  The true Zion is in Jerusalem, not Utah, not Nauvoo, and certainly not Independence, Missouri.  America has nothing to do with Zion.  Contrary to Joseph Smith’s teachings, Christianity is not an American made institution.  See Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 188.

 Let’s take things in context and look at the passage in Matthew mentioned above.

 Matthew 8:18-22; “Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side.  19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.  20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.  21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.  22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

 It’s commendable when we take a verse and apply it to our lives – but not always.  Two of my favorite verses are Jude 1:24-25.  I’m not however, applying those verses to justify doing something that doesn’t line up with the rest of what God’s word says.  The passage in Matthew is referring to a couple of disciples who were eager to bid the Lord’s direction, but one of them had a misplaced zeal.

 Does the Lord have a place to rest His head in your life?  The Bible tells us that He resides not in buildings of stone made of hands; instead He resides inside your heart.  John 14:17, 23.  Can He come to tarry there with you or are you busily going about with what you’ve been told by others to do?

 The irony of using this passage shouldn’t be overlooked.  Jesus told us to let the dead bury the dead!  Why has the Church built a temple to talk to the dead?  Wouldn’t that mean they’re spiritually dead?

And what about the inscription “Holiness to the Lord” on the temples?

Are the workers inside the Mormon temple wearing the proper clothing that God instructed the priests to wear?  God instructed a small gold plate with this inscription to be affixed on the forehead of Aaron.

Are the Mormon temple workers affixing this to their foreheads?

 Exodus 28:36; “And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, and grave upon it, like the engravings of a signet, HOLINESS TO THE LORD.

 Sun stones

 Figures 8, 9, and 10:  Close up of sunstone on Nauvoo Temple, sunstones with inverted stained glass pentagrams on Nauvoo temple – 3rd picture is a closer look of sunstone near top of Nauvoo Temple.

Figure 11:  Sunstone on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

Nauvoo Temple, pg. 87; “At the base of each pilaster was a crescent moon carved in a giant stone, while fifty feet above it a stone of equal size crowned the pilaster. This was the sun stone, with its human face carved in the large stone, with rays of light extending from the full face to the edge of the stone. This was surmounted by two hands holding two trumpets. These sun and moon stones were typical of the different degrees of glory that await the human family after the resurrection.” – E. Cecil McGavin

Sunstones.  Located directly about the moonstones, the sunstones depict the sun—a symbol of the glory of the celestial kingdom.

 Church News, “Original sunstones part of America’s religious history”, May 4, 2002, “President Gordon B. Hinckley, then a counselor in the First Presidency…said they “were undoubtedly inspired by Paul’s writing in 1 Corinthians 15:40-42 “which compared the glory of the heavenly kingdoms to that of the sun, the moon and the stars.” – Greg Hill

 Truth:

Just looking at the face of this sunstone character is bothersome.  Solar deities can be found in many cultures throughout history and can be male or female.  In Greek and Roman mythology, Apollo was a god of light and sun.  Ra of Heliopolis (Horus or Anu-Re to the Egyptians) is another example and considered to be the creator of everything.  These symbols are nothing more than a form of Ba’al worship.

 Ba’al worship is the adoration or worship of things in nature created by God.  The worshipping of creation typically revolved around the cycle of crops or raising livestock or it could include the worship of water.  It also included the worshipping of stars, the moon, planets and sun.  The Israelites are thought to have adopted Ba’al worship through the Canaanites.

 Neo-paganism (modern form of witchcraft) is replete with the use of sun and/or moon gods with faces.  It has so infiltrated our society and culture today that we can see these sun faces everywhere in home and yard décor.  Many people are oblivious to the spiritual implications of having these idols in their homes.

 I keep saying one of the best bible studies that opened my eyes to the historical aspects of the Old Testament was the book of Jeremiah (See Jer. 42:15-16).  It also cleared the fog of confusion for me that I kept having with the Book of Mormon.  Just about everything God commanded the Israelites not to do is found as righteous behavior in the Book of Mormon.  LDS temples aren’t coy about whom the attendees are worshipping.  God destroyed most of the Israelites for worshipping the same things depicted on these temples.

 In addition to all that, there is the sun god Re whom the Egyptians worship.  The Egyptians believed Re, also known as Horus-Re, died and was resurrected or reborn each and every day.  Egyptians personified this sun god through drawings of him sitting on a boat sailing through the sky.

 In the 1913 publication of Spalding’s booklet, “Joseph Smith, Jr., as a Translator”, we find Egyptologist Dr. Samuel Mercer’s findings.  According to Dr. Mercer along with ten other Egyptologists, the drawing in Facsimile 2, Figure 3 in the Book of Abraham is the Egyptian sun god Horus.

 Yet, Joseph Smith was adamant this pictorial is “God sitting upon his throne”.  We can only be left to conclude the god of Mormonism is Horus, not the God of the Bible.

Above drawing is from the Book of Abraham Facsimile 2, Figure 3

 2 Kings 17:16; “And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

 Beehive

 Figures 12 & 13

Top Row: Notice beehive in center of Salt Lake Temple door handle.

Second Row:  Beehive House in Salt Lake City, also known as home of Brigham Young  

 Figure 14 & 15 –

Top Row: doors to Salt Lake Temple.

Second Row: Close up of beehive in center of doors to Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

 Utah’s nickname is the Beehive State and their flag proudly bears the symbol of the beehive as well.  It’s difficult to determine where the state ends and religion begins, while another example of this can be found in the state motto which is “Industry”.

50 States Nickname 

50 States Flag

State Symbols

 The LDS Young Woman’s group (12-13 y/o) is named the “Beehives”, so this theme permeates everything around the Mormon people.

A number of leaders compared the honey bee with Church workers. In October 1898 general conference, President Joseph F. Smith said, “This country, in the beginning, was called Deseret — the honey bee — signifying industry; Utah, in the early days, was likened to the hive of bees… Everyone should be increasing, improving, and advancing in some way, and accomplishing something for his or her good and for the good of the whole.”

Mormon author E. Cecil McGavin writes; “Masons who visit the Temple Block in Salt Lake City are impressed by what they call the Masonic emblems displayed on the outside of the Mormon Temple. “Yes, the ‘Masonic emblems’ are displayed on the walls of the Temple—the sun, moon and stars, ‘Holiness to the Lord,’ the two right hands clasped in fellowship, the All-seeing eye, Alpha and Omega, and the beehive. Masonic writers tell us that the Mormon Temple ritual and their own are slightly similar in some respects.”

Let’s be honest, they’re more than slightly similar…the sad thing is that the Church refuses to apologize…

“Without any apologies we frankly admit that there may be some truth in these statements.”  (Mormonism and Masonry, Introduction, by E. Cecil McGavin, Bookcraft, 1956)

He further went on to say

 “…the lessons Masons should draw from the beehive is that the grand arch of the heavens, reaching from horizon (the form of which resembles the old fashioned straw hive) has a spiritual queen, the spirit of the universe; and that periodically a new principle is born as the beehive ripens and brings to maturity a new queen bee with her retinue of attendants.Shields Research, p 62 

 Truth:

 The last example above sounds a lot like the teaching of eternal progression.  New lessons from their god are occasionally introduced as man progresses along in life.  This concept allows the Mormon god to change church doctrines with whatever is politically correct in society at the time, i.e. the race issue, polygamy, temple ordinances, et al.

 I’d love to take a survey to find out how many members of the Church know the spiritual significance of the symbols plastered on their temples.  Experience has taught me very few of them do.  I can assure you my mother knows nothing of the queen bee on the temple being a symbol for the spirit of the universe.

 According to the book “The Craft and its Symbols” by Allen E. Roberts, the beehive is a Masonic emblem of Industry with generative powers.

For the Egyptians, bees were the tears of the sun god Ra.  Honey was a symbol of resurrection and protection against evil spirits.

 In Greek mythology the sun god Apollo reigned alongside his priestess wife Pythia who was called the Delphic Bee.

Greece also believed the bee was a priestly creature.  The names of Eleusis and Ephesus were called Melissae or “bees” which is a reference to the virginity of worker bees.  These served at the Greek festivals in honor of Demeter, the Queen Bee.  It’s also considered a symbol of the soul which is influenced by the sun and immortality.

The truth is that the bee and beehive has been a symbol of idol worship and sex in many cultures throughout history.  We’ve only listed a few examples, but you can find it’s prevalent within the Hindu, African and Mediterranean cultures as well.  The idolization of this symbol is full of sexual overtones.

The Lord has been very explicit about His dislike for worshipping creatures and calling them God.  The beehive in the center of the door handle on the Salt Lake Temple is another example of how Mormonism has deep ties in Masonry.

The irony couldn’t be richer with this one.  The Book of Mormon tells its readers not to participate with anything that has secret combinations, yet their temples have been built with the imagery of Masonic symbols.  The very first thing you must touch on the temple is a Masonic symbol that literally opens the door to the occult.

 Psalm 19:9-10; “The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

 1 Corinthians 10:20-21; “But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.  21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord’s table, and of the table of devils.

 Horus, the All-Seeing Eye

 Figure 16 – Horus – The All Seeing Eye on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:   

Apparently the Nauvoo Temple was to include the depiction of the all-seeing eye in the center of the top portion of the large rounded windows. Whether this was done or not cannot be determined from photographic evidence.  Brigham Young called this symbol “the all-searching eye of the Great Jehovah” (J.D. 2:32).

Located atop each of the center towers of the temple is the all-seeing eye of God, which represents God’s ability to see all things.

Exterior Symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple:  Reflecting the Faith that Called the Place into Being

BYU Studies, Richard G. Oman, Art and Architecture, Temple, Journal 36:4;

Spiritual Bearings.  The temple is the “meeting point of the three cosmic regions”: heaven, earth, and the abode of the dead.”  Page 27

Pg. 48-50 “This symbol reminded the Saints that the eye of the Lord was upon them and that all that they did should be in accordance with the will of the Lord.  John Taylor noted it “penetrates and enabled to weigh the actions and motives of the children of men.

Mr. Oman goes on to say;

Page 51 – “…the all-seeing eyes on the temple differ from all the rest…those on the Salt Lake Temple are depicted looking out from beneath a pleated veil.  Veils are used to separate the sacred from the profane, the spiritual from the carnal, truth from confusion, the Lord from mankind.  The veil separating man and the Lord is removed only on rare occasions of great faith and obedience…” [emphasis mine]

Truth:

The LDS Church’s obsession with Egyptian gods is obvious to all by now.  The All Seeing Eye is from the false god Horus.  It is supposedly the left eye of the “moon” or “sound eye” of Horus, who is the son of Isis (mother goddess of nature and magic) and Osiris (god of the underworld).  The full story of how their son Horus came into being is too sexually graphic for this website, but you can find the info anywhere on the net.  The point to this entry should be obvious.

 Why does the Mormon temple have this symbol on their “sacred” place of worship?

 The Mormons aren’t the only ones that utilize the All-Seeing Eye of Horus on their temples.  The Masonic Lodge believes it is the watchful providence of God.  As you can see from the example below, they’re no closer to the truth than the Mormons are.  The best place to get references and information on the Masonic Lodge is from Ed Decker at Saints Alive.

 The Encyclopedia of Freemasonry says this about the All-Seeing Eye; “…the Egyptians represented Osiris, their chief deity, by the symbol of an open aye, and placed this hieroglyphic of him in all their Temples…The All-Seeing Eye may then be considered as a symbol of God manifested in his omnipresence—…”The eyes of the Lord are in every place, beholding (or, as in the Revised Version, keeping watch upon) the evil and the good.” It is a symbol of the Omnipresent Deity.

 Here is what the One True God of the Bible has to say about these false gods –

 Psalm 135:15-18; “The idols of the heathen are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands.  16 They have mouths, but they speak not; eyes have they, but they see not; 17 They have ears, but they hear not; neither is there any breath in their mouths.  18 They that make them are like unto them: so is every one that trusteth in them.

 Masonic Handclasp

Figure 17 – Hand Clasp on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

 “Handclasp.  Each of the center towers features a pair of clasped right hands identified as the “right hands of fellowship” cited in Galatians 2:9. In Jeremiah 31:32, the Lord uses the handclasp to denote covenant making—an act at the very heart of temple worship.

 “…a pair of clasped hands, which represent the hand of fellowship and the unity of the Saints.  But the clasped hands seem to have additional meanings, for surrounding the hands is an oval with rays emanating outward.  The usual meaning of an aureole of light is divine sanctification or divine presence. BYU Studies, Exterior Symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple, p 45

 ““I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”  Immediately beneath this inscription in the lower window arch of the centre tower appears in relief the emblem of the clasped hands, betokening the bond of brotherhood and the free offering of the right hand of fellowship.” – House of the Lord, James Talmage, pg. 148-151 

 Truth:

 The secret handshakes in the Mormon Church are nothing more than their own rendition of the Masonic handshakes.  They are exactly the same and performed in a ceremonial ritual in the endowment ceremony that makes the adherent believe they can’t be saved without knowing the secret.  It’s ungodly behavior.

 When using the Bible as your defense you need to use it in context.  According to the Holman Bible Dictionary, fellowship means “the bond of common purpose and devotion that binds Christians together and to Christ”.  The Mormons and Masons alike can’t possibly claim the Apostle Paul was referring to secret handshakes in the reference above.

 The Jesus of the Bible is not the Jesus of Mormonism and the god of Masonry is Jahbulon, not Jesus.  The people (Masons) taking the oath with that handshake aren’t necessarily even claiming to be Christians so why are they using the Bible and this terminology?

 Again, the Mormons are trying to build an entire theological precept upon one verse from the Bible and in so doing have proven themselves to be false teachers.

You can find the transcript of the Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony here.

 “The Grip of the Entered Apprentice is made by pressing the thumb against the top of the first knuckle-joint of the fellow Mason, the fellow Mason also presses his thumb against the first Mason’s knuckle.  The name of this grip is “Boaz”. When a candidate is imparted with this grip and its usage it is done in this manner.”  First the Worshipful Master says to the candidate: “I now present my right hand in token of friendship and brotherly love, and will invest you with the grip and word. As you are instructed, he who has hitherto answered for you, will do so at this time.” 

 Jeremiah 1:16; “And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.

 Jeremiah 31:32; “Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD.

 Galatians 2:9; “And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

 Earth stones

Figure 18 – Earth Stone on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

 Earthstones.  The earthstones, located at the base of each buttress, represent the earth—the “footstool of God.” Although the earth is currently a telestial kingdom, it will transition to a terrestrial kingdom at the coming of the Millennium; and at the end of one thousand years, it is destined to become a celestial kingdom.

Earth stones These are found just above the basement of the temple and at the floor of each buttress. The 36 stones are believed to symbolize the spreading of the gospel throughout the world, because they represent different portions of the globe. They also represent the telestial kingdom, the lowest of the three degrees of heavenly glory in LDS beliefs.” –  Lynn Arave, November 27, 2008

Truth:

Where do I begin…sigh…since when does something used by witches symbolize the spreading of the gospel?

Using the cross as a symbol of Christianity wasn’t pulled out of some obscure verse that goes unread by most.  Jesus dying on a cross was foretold in Deuteronomy and everyone knows of it.  If you’re a Christian wouldn’t you use the cross as a symbol of your faith instead of something from the occult?

Wiccans use nature and manmade things from the earth as symbols of reverence and worship for their gods.  Cycles of the earth, seasons, moons, stars, planets and the sun are all part of deities they believe hold power and mysticism.  Gods (sun and wildlife) and goddesses (earth and the moon) make up the pantheon of deities witches might worship.

The placement of the witch’s tools in ceremonial worship is important in order to draw and utilize their magic.  Numbers, proper timing and placement of the elements they use are all essential in the witch’s rituals.  A temple for a witch could be in a room, building, a grove of trees, etc.

The pattern of where the stones were placed on the temple is no different than what witches do when making their own temples.

For example, the Salt Lake Temple has 50 moonstones.  They patterned the number of stones and stars upon the lunar cycle in the year they built the temple – 1878.

From the bottom up, the earth stones were placed first, then the moon stones, sun stones, cloud stones, star stones, Big Dipper, Handclasp, All-Seeing Eye, and then Moroni.  Each has been placed in a certain position for a particular reason with meticulous detail.

The point to all this?  The only time anything is referenced to an “earth stone” or “moon stone” is in neo-pagan religions such as Wicca.  Never, ever will you see any type of thing like this in the Bible.

Between my husband, me and our kids, we’ve traveled and lived just about everywhere in the world, and everywhere we’ve been the cross is the only symbol used in true Christianity.  The symbols used on the temple speak volumes about the god you worship and your integrity.

Why does the Church continue to lie to people?  Yes, it’s personal for me; my entire family in Utah is being led down a road that doesn’t lead to Jesus.  It’s shocking to say the least of it.  My kids have lived without the benefit of having grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins to love on them and share their lives.  And it’s all because of what’s represented on the exterior walls of a building in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah.

The scriptures below are just a few of the things God tells us what we should and shouldn’t be doing.  It’s amazing how the Mormon teachings are the exact opposite of what God says.

Isaiah 66:1; “Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

Remember in the NT Jesus and the apostles Paul and Peter told us that His Holy Spirit would reside inside of us and believers are the temple of God.  John 14:16-18, 23; 1 Corinthians 3:16, 6:19.

Matthew 5:34-35; “But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

1 Peter 2:5; “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:8-12; “Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;  9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.  10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.  11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God.

Jeremiah 8:2; “And they shall spread them before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven, whom they have loved, and whom they have served, and after whom they have walked, and whom they have sought, and whom they have worshipped: they shall not be gathered, nor be buried; they shall be for dung upon the face of the earth.

Saturn stones

 

Figure 19 – Saturn Stones on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

FYI: For Your Info”, New Era, April 1993, pgs. 34-37; “Saturn Stones are located directly below the parapet on each side of the six towers. They represent Kolob, the dwelling place of God.

Ensign, January 1978, pg. 80; “Overwhelmed by the building itself, people may not realize how extensive the ornamentation is, each of which, commented President George A. Smith, “conveys a moral lesson, and all point to the celestial world…There are fifty Earth Stones weighing 3 1/2 tons apiece, fifty moon stones, several Saturns, numerous sunstones, sixty-eight star stones… Brother Nibley continues, “The temple itself is a reminder that none can receive the highest blessings without entering its portals. … Here all time and space come together; the barriers vanish between this world and the next; between past, present, and future. What is bound here is bound beyond, and only here can the gates be opened to release the dead who are awaiting the saving ordinances.”” – The Salt Lake Temple

 Truth:

It’s been said that Saturn is the darkest symbol to use in all of the mystic religions.  Just when you thought it couldn’t get any darker spiritually speaking, you find out you’re wrong.

For the Romans, he was known as the god of agriculture, time, and celebration. He was so important in Roman mythology that both a day (Saturday) and a planet were named in his honor.  In English his name means serious and gloomy.

In Greek mythology Saturn is known as “Father Time” or Cronus, thus our English term chronology.  Cronus was depicted with a sickle which he used to castrate his father Uranus.  From Hesiod’s Theogony, Cronus supposedly ate his children when they were born to prevent them from taking power from him someday.

The symbol of Saturn even shows up in the 19th degree of Scottish Rite of Freemasonry where oaths are taken to the god of Masonry as they take upon themselves the “priesthood” of the Masonic Lodge.  While going through this particular ritual, a robe is worn with a crimson sash across the breast representing the twelve stars of the Zodiac and the twelve tribes amongst other symbolic gestures.  (Question of Freemasonry, pg. 17, Ed Decker)

In the Question of Freemasonry, Ed went on to further point out how the rituals of the Lodge portraying the Zodiac as holding the priesthood is a pathetic attempt to strip the only person who holds the priesthood of His powers – and yes, this would mean Jesus Christ!

Question:  why is the Mormon Church participating in anything that has to do with the Zodiac (Saturn stones) and also portraying signs of Masonic influence on their temples if the Masons believe this stuff?

While there is no reference to the Egyptians using astrology until the middle or late period of classical history, it has been shown by Egyptologist Richard Parker that Saturn was also known as Heru, bull of the sky. (Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago).

Saturn and Ba’al worship at Carthage – “Classical sources relate how the Carthaginians burned their children as offerings to Ba’al Hammon. See Moloch for a discussion of these traditions and conflicting thoughts on the matter. From the attributes of his Roman form, African Saturn, it is possible to conclude that Hammon was a fertility god.

At times Saturn was known as the god of death and represented in the sun at its lowest part of the winter solstice.

Saturn, Seb, Cronos (Kronus), Repa, Remphan, Sakkuth, Kaiwan, Kiyyun, and Chiun are just different names from different cultures for the same false god.  (See Holman Bible Dictionary under Chiun)  God told the Israelites to stop worshipping this false god in Amos 5:26.

He was also represented by many different forms which include an “Oriental talisman”, the sun and a solar disk, and also a man with a head of a hawk, beetle or ram.  He’s additionally been depicted as a phoenix, a heron, a serpent, a bull, cat, lion…

Another question for the Mormons:

Why do you have a baptismal font for dead works and why is the baptismal font sitting atop twelve bulls?  If Saturn is known as Heru, bull of the sky, why is such a thing in your temples today along with the Saturn stones?

According to LDS doctrine the carved bulls represent the twelve tribes of Israel and the baptismal font is patterned after the molten sea in the original temples.  The baptismal font looks like a solar disk!

The truth is that the molten sea in the Old Testament era temple was actually filled with water as a place for the priests to wash blood off themselves after sacrificing animals to God.  And Solomon made the bulls to show the Israelites their only use was as a post instead of worship as they’d done under Aaron’s direction.  See my article on temple furniture.

Now if you’re not engaged in animal sacrifices and God already told us not to have anything to do with the dead, why would you want to participate in this type of thing?

Regardless of what the Church says, God does not reside on Kolob which is a make believe word from the mind of Joseph Smith.  And why would you use Saturn as a symbol of God’s residence when it’s been used all throughout the history of man to denote a false god?

The Holman Bible Dictionary says the following about heaven; “As God’s dwelling place, heaven is not a divine haven where God can isolate Himself from earth. It is the divine workplace, where He sends blessings to His people (Deut. 26:15; Isa. 63:15) and punishment on His enemies (Ps. 2:4; 11:4-7). Heaven is a channel of communication between God and humans (Gen. 28:12; 2 Sam. 22:10; Neh. 9:13; Ps. 144:5).

Isaiah 1:13-14; “Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

2 Kings 17:16-18; “And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.  17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.  18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

Cloud stones

Figure 20 – Cloud stones on Salt Lake Temple

Mormon Church:

 Cloudstones.  High above the sunstones on the east center tower are two clouds with descending rays of light (originally planned to be one white and one black with descending trumpets.) The parallel of this symbolism is found in the Old Testament. Once temples were dedicated in ancient Israel, they were filled with the “cloud of the Lord.” At Mount Sinai, the children of Israel saw this cloud as both dark and bright accompanied by the blasting of a trumpet.

Cloud stones There are only two cloud stones on the temple. They are located on the east center tower and represent the gospel piercing through superstition and the error of the world.” –Symbolism can be seen in architecture of S.L. Temple, Lynn Arave, 27 November 2008 

 Truth: 

The residence of God is no longer in the cloud on Mt. Sinai and the cloud is no longer in the temple in Jerusalem.   The desire to portray the two different colors black/white is suspicious as well given the other carvings on the temple.  Typically, having these color variations with the meaning of dark and bright/light together denotes yin yang.

The Holman Bible Dictionary also says this about the presence of God;

New Testament Usage The primary New Testament manifestation of the presence of God is in Jesus Christ, Emmanuel, “God with us” (Matt. 1:23; John 1:14; Heb. 1:1-3). This presence did not end with the death of Christ. The risen Christ appeared to the disciples (John 21:1-14) and to Paul. Through the apostles, Paul and the disciples, Christ’s work continued (Acts 1:8; 26:12-18). The Holy Spirit is an important manifestation of the presence of God and continues the redemptive work of God. The return of Christ will bring permanence to the presence of God with His people.”

2 Corinthians 6:16-17; “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

Star stones

Figure 21 – pictured top row: Inverted Pentagram on Salt Lake Temple

Figure 22 – pictured middle row: Upright pentagram on Salt Lake Temple

Figure 23 – bottom row: Eagle Gate with inverted pentagram and beehive in Salt Lake City

 

 

Mormon Church:

Starstones.  Six-pointed stars represent the actual stars in the heaven. Upside-down five-pointed stars represent morning stars, compared to the “sons of God” in the scriptures. The large upright five-pointed stars may represent the governing power of the priesthood while the small upright five-pointed stars may represent the saving power of the priesthood for those who attach themselves to it.

THE FIVE-POINTED STARS The five-pointed star is often represented as the morning star. The descending ray of the Nauvoo Temple’s inverted five-point starstones (there is only one surviving example and it is damaged) was extended downward. Such an orientation suggests the rising morning star. This “star” is not a star at all, but the planet Venus…The starstones on the Nauvoo Temple, some with their unique lengthened ray, are a fitting symbol of Jesus Christ as the morning star.  

THE SIX-POINTED STARS  The six-pointed stars commonly represented the stars in the heavens, and clearly this was the intended purpose in placing them along the soffit, where only when persons looked upwards were they visible. There placement also on the balustrade, the highest point of the temple’s walls, also suggests that they represented the stars in heaven.

THE TWELVE-POINTED STARS  The intended use of twelve pointed-stars in the circular windows of the main body of the Temple, may suggest the priesthood, as well as the fulness of the priesthood…Those righteous leaders who hold the priesthood in its fulness are the source of power, revelation and light to the Saints,”

Star stones Just above the cornice of the temple are five-point star stones. The eastern towers have 40 star stones. These number 12 on the central towers. They are also found on the majority of keystones.

Truth:

Equating Jesus to a pentagram is just about as bad as it gets.  My heart breaks for people like my mother who hasn’t a clue about the meanings of the occult markings on the temples.  The “saints” should only be looking to Jesus as their only source of power and revelation, not some twelve pointed star carved into the side of a building that hosts dead spirits.

As you’ll see below the meaning of stars always has to do with the spirit and elements of the earth – and this from the witch’s point of view!

The Pentagram is a symbol of a star encased in a circle. Always with 5 points (one pointing upward), each has its own meaning. The upward point of the star is representative of the spirit. The other four points all represent an element; earth, air, fire, and water.  All these things contributive to life and are a part of each of us.

Also see Wiki Occult Symbolism for further information on occult symbolism.  Six pointed stars are known by the names of “Magan star” and the “Star of Remphan”.

Stars are a Wicca symbol because they signify the unattainable wisdom of the Creatrix, which is attainable to those who study the esoteric arts.

Stars symbolize the potential of every being to reach Divinity, with all the wisdom and magickal Power that entails.

The Holman Bible Dictionary points out that anything carved or otherwise representing something made by God is known as idolatry.  IDOL Physical or material image or form representing a reality or being considered divine and thus an object of worship. In the Bible various terms are used to refer to idols or idolatry: “image”, either graven (carved) or cast, “statue,” “abomination.” Both Testaments condemn idols, but with idols the Old Testament expresses more concern than the New, probably reflecting the fact that the threat of idolatry was more pronounced for the people of the Old Testament.” 

Also noteworthy is what the Masonic Dictionary has to say about the importance of stars and numerology.  The number of stars and where they’re placed on the temple is not just a coincidence.

In Freemasonry there are many numbers of importance in a symbolic sense. Such numbers as 3, 5, 7 and 9 each have symbolic meaning to them. Some of this symbolism lies in Kabalistic notions, while others are representative of Masonic teachings.” – Source: MasonicDictionary.com

2 Peter 2:14-17; “Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

  Angel Moroni

 Figure 24 –Top row: Statue of Moroni, “the angel of light”, atop the Salt Lake Temple

Figure 25 – Second row: drawing of Moroni weathervane atop Nauvoo Temple

 

Mormon Church: 

 The Angel Moroni statue He represents the restoration of the gospel in the latter days…Missing features — Not all the symbolism originally planned for the Salt Lake Temple became a reality, either. For example, an early sketch of the temple by Angell found hanging today in Brigham Young’s guest room at Cove Fort shows that two Angel Moroni statues, one each on the east and west ends, were initially envisioned. Only an eastern statue was ever used for reasons unclear.

Symbolism can be seen in architecture of S.L. Temple, Lynn Arave, 27 November 2008

Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 954; “From 1823 to 1829, the angel Moroni 2 appeared at least twenty times to Joseph Smith and others. Those appearances opened the way for the translation and publication of the Book of Mormon and laid the foundation of many of the Church’s most characteristic teachings. As a resurrected messenger of God, Moroni told Joseph Smith about the Nephite record on gold plates and taught him concerning the gathering of Israel, the forthcoming visit of Elijah, the imminence of the second coming of Jesus Christ, and the judgments to be poured out on the world prior to that event.

 Truth: 

 Below is a list of several descriptions of the angel Moroni that sits atop the Salt Lake and Nauvoo temples.  Up until 1979 the introductory page of Doctrine and Covenants said;

 “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September, 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

 They’re obviously not trying to hide their sin.  Their description of Satan is much like it is in the Bible.  Check out what they have to say in 2 Nephi 9:9;

 “And our spirits must have become like unto him, and we become devils, angels to a devil, to be shut out from the presence of our God, and to remain with the father of lies, in misery, like unto himself; yea, to that being who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness.

 2 Corinthians 11:14; “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

 And to further their belief that Moroni is Satan take a look at Joseph Smith’s own testimony:

 Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced; when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed, and I found that day was approaching, so that our interviews must have occupied the whole of that night.

 This should remind everyone of what took place between Jesus and Peter!  To deny Jesus the third time with a false gospel and immediately a cock crows.  I just cannot imagine the look on the Lord’s face…

 Luke 22:34, 60-62; “34 And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.  60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.62 And Peter went out, and wept bitterly.

 Why would you want Satan to be the spokesman of your church?  I don’t know of any Christian who would want such a thing.  We have to wonder what type of gospel they’re trying to deliver to the saints.

 In other testimonies by Smith friends and family members, we find that Moroni was originally morphed from a toad in a box into a Spaniard ghost with his throat cut from ear to ear and had blood dripping down the front of him.  This is the same angel, claims Smith, who appeared before him to deliver the plates which contained the gospel.  Seriously, this is what Smith had told others about an angel from heaven visiting him.

 My heart is so, so sad…

 I highly recommend purchasing the book written by H. Michael Marquardt and Wesley P. Walters called “Inventing Mormonism”.  The information about a toad morphing itself into a Spanish ghost can be found in their eye opening investigation of Joseph Smith and his money digging schemes. I can’t say enough about their investigative work – you’ll be sure to learn a lot from their tireless effort.

We could list other examples of how evil this angel of light Moroni is, but at the end of the day what matters are the words of the apostle Paul in Galatians 1:6-9;

 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 Temple Towers

 Figure 26 – The Towers

Mormon Church:

 “The six towers, the higher ones on the east representing the Melchizedek Priesthood and the lower ones on the west the Aaronic Priesthood, were a departure from the single-towered Kirtland and Nauvoo Temples.” – BYU Studies, p 15

 “On the two west corner towers, and on the west end, a few feet below the top of battlements, may be seen in bold or alto relievo, the great dipper, or Ursa Major, with the pointers ranging nearly towards the North Star. (Moral, the lost may find themselves by the Priesthood.)” – James Talmage, House of the Lord, pg. 121

 “Prominent on the Salt Lake Temple are its towers. Three eastern towers, rising six feet higher than the corresponding towers on the west, represent the three presiding high priests of the Church who constitute the First Presidency. The three western towers represent the Presiding Bishopric of the Church, whose duty it is to supervise temporal interests.” – New Era, June 1978, pg. 33, Dean R. Zimmerman

 Truth:

 The High Priest is represented in the person of Jesus Christ, not some granite towers or men who’ve attached the title to their own names.  The book of Hebrews tells us Jesus is high priest of the temple God created, that being mankind and not a temple built with human hands.

 Hebrews 8:1-2; “Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; 2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

 The true believers “find themselves” through the identification of Jesus, not men here on earth.  Man’s heart is deceitful (Jer. 17:9) as are the symbols on the temple – they’re even using symbols that tell you they are used for deception!  Why would you want to follow a sinful person here on earth?

 With all the towers representing different priesthood powers, the bishopric, first presidency and high priests, one has to wonder where the Lord fits into all this.

 Where is a sign of the cross that Jesus humbly walked to and allowed Himself to be sacrificed upon for your sins?

 1 Corinthians 1:18; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Figure 27 – Square and Compass

Mormon Church:

There exists no account for reason of the placement of the square and compass on the weather vane. One scholar has suggested that, since the compass, which is used to draw circles, points towards the bowl of the sky, and that the square, which is used to draw squares, points towards the earth, that the combination of the two symbols respresent [sic] the powers of God in creating the bowl of the starry heavens and the four corners of the earth (Brown and Smith, Symbols in Stone, p. 105).” – NAUVOO TEMPLE EXTERIOR SYMBOLISM, By Lisle Brown

 Truth:

 The square and compass that once sat atop the angel Moroni weathervane on the Nauvoo temple served only one purpose.  It was a proclamation that Mormons were indeed aligning themselves with the oaths and precepts of the Masonic Lodge.  It is nothing more than a symbol of the pride they hold in their hearts for the lies they tell.

 As you can see in the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, use of the symbol of the square and compass is to promote deception.

 Encyclopedia of Freemasonry; “Square and Compasses…It will be universally understood, or misunderstood, as having a Masonic significance; and, therefore, as a trade-mark, must constantly work deception. Nothing could be more mischievous than to create as a monopoly, and uphold by the poser of lacy anything so calculated as applied to purposes of trade. To be misinterpreted, to mislead all classes, and to constantly foster suggestions of mystery in affairs of business…

 3 John 1:7-8; “Because that for his name’s sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.  8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we might be fellowhelpers to the truth.

 Big Dipper

 Figure 28 – Salt Lake Temple – Notice the Saturn stones above the Big Dipper and the sun stone beneath.

Mormon Church:

 “Big Dipper.  High on the west center tower is a depiction of the Big Dipper, a constellation used by travelers for thousands of years to find the North Star. It is an appropriate symbol for the temple where patrons come to get their bearings on the journey home.

 “Constellations Above the windows on the west central tower are representations of Ursa Major and the Big Dipper. Angell once wrote that Ursa Major and its pointer toward the North Star symbolize that the lost may find themselves by the priesthood.

 “On the west central tower, above the windows, can be found Ursa Major, the Big Dipper, intended to remind those in doubt concerning the true way, that they should follow the path indicated by the priesthood. Angell recorded that Ursa Major means that the lost may find themselves by the priesthood.” – New Era, June 1978, pg. 33, Dean R. Zimmerman

 Truth:

 I was reminded of the greatness of God in the book Crazy Love, Pastor Frances Chan when he said; “Jesus Servant, Not Beggar.  In Malachi 1:11 God says, “From the rising of the sun even to its setting My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure: for My name will be great among the nations”. 

God tells the priests that if they don’t’ want to give him excellence, others will.  God says His name will be great among the nations.  Right now a hundred million angels are praising God’s name; He certainly doesn’t need to beg or plead with us.  We should be the ones begging to worship in His presence.

 My prayer is that my people, the Mormons, will be there worshipping in that throng of people and angels someday.  What a glorious time we will have!  Raising God to His rightful place in our hearts is a sure cure against the heretical belief of becoming gods ourselves someday.

 I’ve not found a scripture yet that refers to Jesus as Ursa Major or that we should “find ourselves by the priesthood”.  The Scottish missionary Amy Carmichael once said; “If I covet anything but the dust at the foot of the cross I know nothing of Calvary Love”.  It is apparent the Mormon Church hasn’t a clue about Calvary Love.

 Why would you refer to the Creator of all things to one of the things He created?

Ursa Major has been known throughout history in many cultures as a bear.  In Greek mythology Zeus’ wife turned Callisto (originally a nymph) into a bear because of jealousy.  In India each of the stars in the Big Dipper represents a beloved sage while in Theosophy it’s believed the energy of Ursa Major goes from each of the stars on down to the human race.

 Regardless of what the different cultures have said down through history, one thing has always stood firm and true; God’s word.  The Lord has consistently warned His people to stay away from worshipping, believing in or paying homage to things He has created.  Our total adoration and desire for guidance must and should always go to Him who gave His only Son.

 Exodus 20:4; “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

 May the good Lord bless those who have taken their time to read and ponder through this study.  If you’re a member of the LDS Church know that we pray for you each and every day.  We hope you will come to know the Jesus of the Bible, just as we have done.

 With Love in Christ; Michelle Grim

 Jude 1:24-25; “Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,  25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

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November 20 – Hebrews 11:36-38; “And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.”

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The above scriptures are a classic example of what it means to be a martyr.  It means that you don’t fight back; you don’t have the mentality of “kill or be killed”.  You die willingly for the sake of the gospel.   Notice how Joseph and Hyrum Smith died and see if they qualify.

I’ve had people in the LDS Church tell me that Joseph died for the Mormon people and my question is always the same.  What did Joseph’s death personally do for you?

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“I shall never forget the deep feeling of sympathy and regard manifested in the countenance of Brother Joseph as he drew nigh to Hyrum, and, leaning over him, exclaimed, ‘Oh! my poor, dear brother Hyrum!’ He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter left by Brother Wheelock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed, died.”  Joseph Smith, History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 7: 102 – 103.  The 3rd President of the Church, John Taylor made the above statements.

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     As is usually the case, I came across something interesting in the Book of Mormon while looking for something else.  This time I was reminded of what the Nephites thought of Jesus and His skin color in 3 Nephi 19:30;

And when Jesus had spoken these words he came again unto his disciples; and behold they did pray steadfastly, without ceasing, unto him; and he did smile upon them again; and behold they were white, even as Jesus.” 

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THE INFLUENCE OF JOSEPH SMITH 

To say the Mormons worship Joseph Smith in every sense of the word would be an understatement.  There are many subject matters within the doctrines of Mormonism that warrant a closer look and this is definitely one of those times.  The influence Joseph Smith has had on people is mind boggling.  His name alone throws my own mother into another frame of mind every time his name is mentioned.

Joseph Smith-History 1:33; “He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people.” 

For my research on Mormonism I use the computer program “Gospelink”.  It’s sold through the LDS owned company Deseret Books.  In that program I have a file of no less than 106 quotes containing titles and/or descriptions of Smith made by leaders in the Church or Smith himself.  I can assure the reader that I’ve merely scratched the surface.

The following is an excerpt from an article I wrote after visiting my mother in Utah in the summer of 2005:

“The False Prophet Joseph Smith”

I asked my mother a couple of weeks ago which prophet of all time that she liked the best.  She replied by asking me which one I liked.  I told her I couldn’t pick but have a tendency to turn to Isaiah time and again.  I told her that his words are comforting to me when he prophesied about Jesus in chapter 53, or when he spoke of the ‘Highway of Holiness’ in chapter 35.  She had never heard of Isaiah then told me that Hinckley and Joseph had to be her favorites.  I found it interesting that Mormons refer to Joseph Smith by just his first name and everyone knows who you’re talking about.  Yet I can’t recall the last time my own mother referred to Jesus without calling Him by His title instead of by His given name.

The above scenario is typical of any Mormon you might meet.  Another phenomenon you may encounter while mentoring is when the new Christian has stories from the Bible confused with Joseph Smith.  This is caused from Smith and others using scripture to describe the greatness of Smith.  In their eyes he is superhuman.  Below are some of the descriptions of Smith.

Foreordained from foundation of the world  

DS 1:184; “Joseph Smith was chosen to stand at the head of the work of the Lord in the last days, and his work was assigned to him through the fore-knowledge of our Eternal Father in the eternities before he was born. He came in the spirit of Elias to prepare the way for the coming of our Lord. No prophet since the days of Adam, save, of course, our Redeemer, has been given a greater mission.

God to all 

TPJS, pg. 363;God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead, and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you don’t like it, you must lump it. I have been giving Elder Adams instruction in some principles to speak to you, and if he makes a mistake, I will get up and correct him. (April 8, 1844.) —DHC 6:318-320.

Controls minds of believers

TPJS, pg. 341; “President Joseph Smith again arose and said—In relation to the power over the minds of mankind which I hold, I would say, It is in consequence of the power of truth in the doctrines which I have been an instrument in the hands of God of presenting unto them, and not because of any compulsion on my part.

Holds endless priesthood 

LDS Hymn #27 & Joseph Smith, the Prophet, the Man, pg. 3; “Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.  Ever and ever the keys he will hold.  Faithful and true, he will enter his kingdom, Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.  (“Praise to the Man,” Hymns #27)” 

His name will never perish

 

Gospel Doctrine, pg. 479; “God lives, and Jesus is the Christ, the Savior of the world. Joseph Smith is a prophet of God—living, not dead; for his name will never perish.” 

Genius with no education 

Divine Authority or the Question, Was Joseph Smith Sent of God?, pg. 4; “How came Mr. Smith, if a deceiver, to think of all this? Did Martin Luther, Wesley, Whitfield, Swedenborg, or Irving think of this? Whence his superior intellect, his depth of understanding, his extensive foresight, that he should so far surpass all former impostors for 1700 years? John testifies that when the everlasting gospel is restored to the earth it shall be by an angel. Mr. Smith testifies that it was restored by an angel, and in no other way. This is another presumptive evidence that he was sent of God.” 

People studied at the feet of Joseph 

Joseph Smith, The Choice Seer, Preface #3; “In assessing the marvelous impact of the Choice Seer’s work on this dispensation, we will turn first and foremost to the doctrinal teachings of Joseph Smith as set forth in his sermons, letters, revelations, translations, and narrations. In addition, we will rely occasionally on the clarifications and expansions of those who knew Brother Joseph firsthand and studied at his feet, as well as those apostolic and prophetic successors to whom is given the divine mandate to build on the doctrinal foundation he laid.” 

Joseph had more followers than Jesus 

 JD 14:202-203; “…this personage whom we call the Savior of the world, there were not, strange to say, as many persons believed on him as have believed on Joseph Smith in the latter days. Not that Joseph was the Savior, but he was a prophet.” 

Reverence for Smith’s name advised 

Neal A. Maxwell Quote Book, pg. 181; “Whenever we speak of the Prophet Joseph Smith … it should be in reverent appreciation of the Lord who called him and whom Joseph served so well. (“‘A Choice Seer,'” p. 113.)” 

Confessing spirit of Smith is of God 

Discourses of Brigham Young, pg. 435; “Whosoever confesseth that Joseph Smith was sent of God to reveal the holy Gospel to the children of men, and lay the foundation for gathering Israel, and building up the Kingdom of God on the earth, that spirit is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist, no matter whether it is found in a pulpit or on a throne. 8:176.” 

Joseph defies world to refute him

 

 TPJS, pg. 372; “The head God organized the heavens and the earth. I defy all the world to refute me.” 

Joseph is Heaven’s Gatekeeper

 

 JD 7:290;Should not this thought comfort all people? They will, by-and-by, be a thousand times more thankful for such a man as Joseph Smith, junior, than it is possible for them to be for any earthly good whatever. It is his mission to see that all the children of men in this last dispensation are saved, that can be, through the redemption. You will be thankful, every one of you, that Joseph Smith, junior, was ordained to this great calling before the worlds were.

Joseph’s name known for good and evil 

Joseph Smith History 1:33; “He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil among all nations, kindreds, and tongues, or that it should be both good and evil spoken of among all people.”

Set aside some time to go through each description with the ex-Mormon. There are three reasons why you’d want to do this!

1.  Allow them to share their thoughts on what they’ve read and understood about that description.

2.  Help them to find a scripture to refute each example.

3.  If the person believed these things about Joseph Smith lead them in a prayer of repentance.

© 2010 Life After Ministries, Inc.

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