Journal of Discourses 4:174 “Are there men in our midst who will court other men’s wives? Yes, and will take them right to the ungodly for them to seduce, and they will take our daughters and do the same. What are such men worthy of? They are worthy of death, and they will get it. That time is nearby, and God has spoken from the heavens, and when certain things are about right, we shall make a public example of those characters.” – Heber C. Kimball, Great Salt Lake City, January 11, 1857 (more…)
Posts Tagged ‘Heber C. Kimball’
Death Penalty for Seducing Women
Posted in Blood Atonement, tagged false apostle, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:174 on 06/20/2018| 2 Comments »
The Earth has Parents
Posted in Mormon Quotes, tagged earth has parents, false apostle, Heber C. Kimball on 05/08/2017| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 6:36; “Where did the earth come from? From its parent earths.” – Heber C. Kimball, Great Salt Lake, November 8, 1857
LDS CHURCH ENDORSEMENTS FOR THE JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES
Posted in Journal of Discourses, tagged 45 wives of Heber Kimball, false doctrines of Mormonism, General Conferences, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, lds church on 12/19/2016| Leave a Comment »
“The Journal of Discourses is not an official publication of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is a compilation of sermons and other materials from the early years of the Church, which were transcribed and then published. It included some doctrinal instruction but also practical teaching, some of which is speculative in nature and some of which is only of historical interest.” Journal of Discourses
As a reminder, the quote above came from the official website of the LDS Church, and the problem with it is clearly seen in the preface of each volume for the JoD (Journal of Discourses). While each volume has a unique intro, we believe volume two contains one of the most horrifying statements we’ve read in all of Mormondom.
The purpose in gathering all the Church’s endorsements for the JoD isn’t to sensationalize, rather, it’s to inform. We pray the Christian will be able to utilize the info to aid while witnessing, and members of the Church will see the contradictions in the Church’s statements. Please know we’re praying for all involved!
With Love in Christ;
Michelle
1 Cor. 1:18
Witnessing Tip of the Day May 18
Posted in Witnessing Tip of the Day, tagged false apostle of Mormonism, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Holy Ghost is a man, Journal of Discourses on 05/18/2016| Leave a Comment »
May 18 – God’s Holy Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17; “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
More LDS Contradictions about Adam, pt. 1
Posted in Adam, tagged Adam is God, Adam is not God, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophecies of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Kimball, Marion G Romney, Spencer W on 05/04/2016| Leave a Comment »
And just when you thought they couldn’t possibly come up with more…
Apparently not every Mormon leader was on board with the Adam-god theory. As we’ll see today, Mr. Romney’s understanding of Adam’s identity was no closer to truth than the theories of Brigham Young, or Heber C. Kimball.
1862
Adam is God of All
“On the Potter’s Wheel”, Appendix A, Memorandum Book, H. C. Kimball; “April 30, 1862. The Lord told me that Adam was my father and that he was the God and father of all of the inhabitants of this Earth.” – Stanley B. Kimball, editor
Retribution for Traitors of Mormonism
Posted in Blood Atonement, tagged false apostle, false doctrines of Mormonism, false gospel, Heber C. Kimball, retribution for Mormon traitors on 03/10/2016| Leave a Comment »
Today we’re looking at early Mormonism. As we’ve stated many times before, the reason why we look at this topic is twofold. Not only does it provides insight of what was going on back then, but it helps in understanding the mindset of Mormons today.
The Mormon culture of the 19th century didn’t just stop. It provided the foundation, if you will, for the tradition of Mormonism in the 21st century.
Polygamy Lies Told to LDS Seminary Students
Posted in Lies of Mormonism, Polygamy, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, George Q. Cannon, Heber C. Kimball, joseph smith, LDS Seminary D&C Teacher's Manual, lies about polygamy on 02/21/2016| Leave a Comment »
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, “LESSON 140: Doctrine and Covenants 132:1-2, 34-66,” Doctrine and Covenants and Church History Seminary Teacher Manual, (2013); “Do not speculate about whether plural marriage is a requirement for the celestial kingdom. We have no knowledge that plural marriage will be a requirement for exaltation.”
Don’t Question God, Don’t Question Brigham
Posted in false Mormon apostles, False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged don't question Brigham Young, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses on 01/01/2016| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 6:32-33; “Wake Up! WAKE UP, YE ELDERS OF ISRAEL, and live to God and none else; and learn to do as you are told, both old and
young; learn to do as you are told for the future. …Brother Brigham [Young] is my leader: he is my Prophet, my Seer, my Revelator; and whatever he says, that is for me to do; and it is not for me to question him one word, nor to question God a minute. Do you not see?” – Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City, November 8, 1857
Mormon False Prophecy: Brigham Young Will Be US President
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged Brigham Young will be president of God's Kingdom, false apostle, false prophecies of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:219 on 11/21/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 5:219; “The Church and kingdom to which we belong will become the kingdom of our God and his Christ, and brother Brigham Young will become President of the United States. [Voices responded, “Amen.”] And I tell you he will be something more; but we do not now want to give him the name: but he is called and ordained to a far greater station than that, and he is foreordained to take that station, and he has got it; and I am Vice-President, and brother Wells is the Secretary of the Interior—yes, and of all the armies in the flesh.” – Heber C. Kimball, Delivered in the Bowery, Great Salt Lake City, September 6, 1857
Joseph Smith: OT Prophets Roamed British Isles
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged faith promoting stories, false apostles of Mormonism, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, joseph smith, Journal of Discourses 5:22, OT Prophets in Europe on 11/20/2015| 2 Comments »
Journal of Discourses 5:22; “Nearly twenty years ago, I was in a place in England in which I felt very curious; but I did not know at the time what it meant. I went through a town called Chadburn, beyond Clithero. Before I went there, some persons told me that there was no use in my going, and asked me what I wanted to go to Chadburn for, saying it was the worst place in the country; for the sectarian priests had preached there faithfully thirty years without making any impression. Notwithstanding that, I went, and preached once, and baptized twenty-five persons, where the priests had not been able to do a thing.
Residence of the Holy Spirit
Posted in False Prophecies of the Mormon Church, tagged false apostles of Mormonism, God's spirit is in everything, Heber C. Kimball, Holy Spirit, Journal of Discourses 5:22-23 on 11/19/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 5:22-23; “Let us bless the land we cultivate and the fountains of water, and they will be blessed, and then men may drink of those waters, and they will fill them with the Spirit and power of God. Let us bless and dedicate the fountains of life that are in us, in our wives and children, and in everything else around us.
Can the Spirit of God enter a stone, or one of those posts? Yes; and it can fill every pore as well as it can every pore in my body. Can it enter into my pores? Yes, even into my hair; and it can also enter my bones and quicken every limb, joint, and fiber.” – Remarks by President Heber C. Kimball, Delivered in the Bowery, Great Salt Lake City, April 6, 1857
LDS Inc. Holds Keys to Heaven and Hell
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Brigham Young, false doctrines of Mormonism, false prophets, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:27-28, LDS Church holds keys to heaven and hell on 09/23/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 5:27–28; “Here in Great Salt Lake City is the seat of government for the Church and Kingdom of God, pertaining to
every person that has ever come into a probation on this earth, whether they are now in tabernacles upon this earth, or whether they are in the spirit world, or in hell. This is the place of deposit of all those keys pertaining to the salvation of the human family; and there never will one soul of those spirits now in prison come out of that place, except the keys of the kingdom of God that are now held in Great Salt Lake City open the door and let them out. They may peep and mutter, and may have revelations until doomsday, and may declare to all eternity that Joseph Smith is a false prophet, and that brother Brigham is a false prophet, and that this Church is false, and they will still remain in hell until we let them out.
False Prophecies for Mormon’s First Apostles #6 Brigham Young
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false apostles, False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, false prophet Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball on 08/14/2015| Leave a Comment »
History of The Church 2:188-189; “The blessing of Brigham Young
was that he should be strong in body, that he might go forth and gather the elect, preparatory to the great day of the coming of the Lord; and that he might be strong and mighty, declaring the tidings to nations that know not God; that he may add ten talents; that he may come to Zion with many sheaves. He shall go forth from land and from sea to sea; and shall behold heavenly messengers going forth; and his life shall be prolonged; and the Holy Priesthood is conferred on him, that he may do wonders in the name of Jesus; that he may cast out devils, heal the sick, raise the dead, open the eyes of the blind, go forth from land to land and from sea to sea; and that heathen nations shall even call him God himself, if he do not rebuke them.”
False Prophecies Given to Mormon Apostles
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false doctrines of Mormonism, False Prophecies of Joseph Smith, Heber C. Kimball, installation of LDS apostles on 06/22/2015| Leave a Comment »
On February 14, 1835 Joe Smith and his three BoM witnesses chose their twelve apostles for the LDS Church. Each of the twelve received a special blessing and each of those blessings contained at least one false prophecy!
Today we’re looking at a few of the false prophecies given in the blessing to Heber C. Kimball –
History of the Church 2:189; “The Blessing of Heber C. Kimball – Heber C. Kimball’s blessing was, in substance, that he shall be made like unto those who have been blessed before him; and be favored with the same blessing. That he might receive visions; the ministration of angels, and hear their voice; and even come into the presence of God; that many millions may be converted by his instrumentality; that angels may waft him from place to place, and that he may stand unto the coming of our Lord, and receive a crown in the Kingdom of our God; that he be made acquainted with the day when Christ shall come; that he shall be made perfect in faith; and that the deaf shall hear, the lame shall walk, the blind shall see, and greater things than these shall he do; that he shall have boldness of speech before the nations, and great power….”
Secret Marriages
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false prophet, Heber C. Kimball, joseph smith, Mormon lies about polygamy, polygamy, Secret Marriage in Mormonism on 05/24/2015| Leave a Comment »
Historical Record, v. 6, p. 240; “I was married to Joseph Smith on the 4th of March 1843… My sister Eliza was also married to Joseph a few days later. This was done without the knowledge of Emma Smith.”
Life of Heber C. Kimball (Apostle), by Orson F. Whitney, pp. 335-336; “… my father… was taught the plural wife doctrine, and was told by Joseph, the Prophet, three times, to go and take a certain woman as his wife; but not till he commanded him in the name of the Lord did he obey. At the same time Joseph told him not to divulge this secret, not even to my mother, for fear that she would not receive it… This was one of the greatest test of his faith he had ever experienced. The thought of deceiving the kind and faithful wife of his youth… was more than he felt able to bear…. his sorrow and misery were increased by the thought of my mother hearing it from some other source, which would no doubt separate them, and he shrank from the thought of such a thing, or of causing her any unhappiness.”
Jesus is Adam’s Son
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Adam-God theory, false apostle, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Jesus is son of Adam on 01/30/2015| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Heber C. Kimball, v. 20, p. 17; also, Deseret News, March 11, 1857; “The Lord told me that Jesus Christ was the son of Adam.” – Heber C. Kimball
President Heber C. Kimball’s Journal, p 209; “April 20, 1862, The Lord told me that Adam was my father and that he was the God and father of all the inhabitants of this Earth” Also see p 274.
Jesus’ Apostles Killed Judas?
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged false apostles, false teachings of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Jesus' apostles killed Judas, Journal of Discourses 6:126 on 09/24/2014| 4 Comments »
Journal of Discourses 6:126; “Jesus said to his disciples, “Ye are the salt of the earth; and if the salt loses its saving principle, it is then good for nothing but to be cast out.” Instead of reading it just as it is, almost all of you read it just as it is not. Jesus meant to say, “If you have lost the saving principles, you Twelve Apostles, and you that believe in my servants the Twelve, you shall be like unto the salt that has lost its saving principles: it is henceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men.” Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him. It is said in the Bible that his bowels gushed out; but they actually kicked him until his bowels came out.” – Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City, December 13, 1857
Did Peter or God Visit Joe Smith?
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged contradictions in Joe Smith's stories, Heber C. Kimball, Joseph Smith's First Vision, Journal of Discourses 6:29 on 09/09/2014| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 6:29; “Do you suppose that God in person called upon Joseph Smith, our Prophet? God called upon him; but God did not come himself and call, but he sent Peter to do it. Do you not see? He sent Peter and sent Moroni to Joseph, and told him that he had got the plates. Did God come himself? No: he sent Moroni and told him there was a record…” – Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City, November 8, 1857
Cursing Your Enemies
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged anti-Mormons, cursing your enemies is good, false apostle, Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:32, Mormon blood atonement on 08/23/2014| Leave a Comment »
Journal of Discourses 5:32; “There are men and women in this congregation of that stamp. I wish I had some stones; I want to pelt your cursed heads, for you lie like hell. Are you valiant to stand by the work of God, and by your brethren? If you are not, you had better put out, you poor curses.
Mormon Dilemma 935 Adam is Jesus
Posted in Mormon Dilemmas, tagged Adam is Jesus, apostasy, false doctrines of Mormonism, Heber C. Kimball, Jesus god of this earth, Journal of Discourses 4:1 on 05/06/2014| 1 Comment »
Journal of Discourses 4:1; “I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people, and He is the God that pertains to this earth-the first man. That first man sent his own Son to redeem the world, to redeem his brethren; his life was taken, his blood shed, that our sins might be remitted. That Son called twelve men and ordained them to be Apostles, and when he departed the keys of the kingdom were deposited with three of those twelve, viz.: Peter, James, and John. Peter held the keys pertaining to that Presidency, and he was the head.” – Heber Chase Kimball, Salt Lake Territory, June 29, 1856
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