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Anti-Mormon vs. Anti-Mormonism

      When I was a Mormon a name they used for anyone who opposed the Church was “anti-Mormon”. The term anti-Mormon covers a huge spectrum to the members of the Mormon Church. There’s a mindset within the Church that if you aren’t with them you’re against them. They expect Christians to just ignore the major doctrinal differences between Mormonism and mainline Christianity. They want all of us to just accentuate the positive things about their religion, not worrying about the rest.

     Granted, there are groups that do appear to be less than kind to the Mormon people and there are others who can love the Mormon people while at the same time highly disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. Many of the Mormons I have spoken with have told me that they see no difference between someone politely conversing with them using the Bible and someone screeching at them on a street corner, sign in hand telling them they’re going to hell. Both instances are perceived to be anti-Mormon, and enemies of the Church.

     Through this experience I’ve come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter how you try to present the Gospel to the lost they will still find offense to it. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is offensive to those who don’t believe. Especially to the Mormons when you try to show them how the doctrines of their religion are not in line with the Bible. You may wonder as I have why the LDS think that people, who oppose the doctrines of their church, oppose them as well. In the process of reading and researching for this article I found the following quote;

 “Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies”. Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign May 1980

     Two years later he says it again. “Be of good cheer, for the Lord is guiding His church. Brothers and sisters, pray for the critics of the Church; love your enemies.” (Ensign May 1982)

     These quotes bring me to the title of this article. There is a huge difference in being against the Mormon people (anti-Mormon) and being against the doctrines of the Mormon Church (anti-Mormonism).

     For a Mormon to call someone an “anti-Mormon” is to call them something that is profane and vile. At least this is how the name was perceived when I was a Mormon. If a fellow church member called something or someone an anti-Mormon I knew to stay away. In Mormonism there’s an underlying persecution complex in the mindset of the Mormon. It usually kicks in not long after they are baptized into the Church when non-LDS friends and family start voicing their concerns about Mormonism.

     The new member may be exposed to literature that’s not church approved and paints the Church in a bad light, or they may run across someone who is a former Mormon who tells them about their exodus out of Mormonism. It’s just easier for the Mormons to slap the anti-Mormon label on an individual’s forehead or the cover of a book rather than take a step back and consider if there are valid concerns to be had about the Church.

     I know there maybe a few people in the world who are against the Mormon people for whatever reason, I’m not going to dispute that. Generally speaking, the people the Mormons are so quick to call their enemies and other names are just people who disagree with the doctrines of the Mormon Church. They have compared and contrasted their findings about Mormonism to Biblical research. I’m not talking about pulling stuff out of the air or off any random website discussing Mormonism.

     These people honestly looked at the historicity of Mormonism, its leaders, and its scripture. So if people are honestly researching, reading the materials the Mormon Church has already provided, and from there draw their own conclusion that Mormonism is a fraud, does that still make them “anti-Mormon” or does it make them “anti-Mormonism”?

     I believe the problem of being quick to judge someone who opposes the Church stems from the notion the Mormons have that tells them “they are their religion”. They put on a pure, happy, clean cut image for the world. When someone speaks against their church, while bringing up historical facts about their religion it tarnishes the way they want to be seen. I think maybe when someone shows them the truth about their religion; on some level it hurts their ego. With all those thoughts bouncing around in their heads it’s no wonder the moment someone makes a less than flattering remark about the Mormon Church they go into a defensive mode and think they are being attacked.

     I would love for the Mormon to understand that we aren’t against them. Sadly I know as long as they believe only their Church holds all the keys to salvation, they may never see the difference in an anti-Mormon and someone who is anti-Mormonism.

 In Christ,

Melissa Grimes (melissa@lifeafter.org)

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The Heavenly Mother of Mormonism

 By Melissa Grimes

 One of the core beliefs in Mormonism is that not only do they have a Father in Heaven, but a Mother in Heaven as well.  This doctrine came from what they call “latter day revelation”, yet it isn’t something you’ll find in any of their extra scriptures.

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Signs of a Cult

 A cult is a group that deviates doctrinally from a parent or host religion.  Cults would include Mormonism, JW’s, Christian Scientists, et al.  A cult doesn’t necessarily have to comply with each example to be a cult.

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Jesus & Mary Magdalene Sealed in Temple

     When the Mormon tells you that anyone speaking out against the “sacred” teachings of the Church are a bunch of “anti’s”, remember what they’ve done in the name of Jesus.

     Today I was alerted to an article written by Helen Radkey that will be posted at the end of this article.  For those of you not familiar with Ms. Radkey’s work, she is an investigative reporter.  She’s written extensively about the Mormon Church’s workings for the dead in their temples and most of her work has been in the Salt Lake Tribune.  Her article featured here was copied from Free Republic (1). 

     As you will read for yourself, Ms. Radkey was researching the names of whom the Church does proxy baptisms for when she discovered the Church baptized and married Jesus to Mary Magdalene by proxy in the Salt Lake temple.

     Miscreant doesn’t seem to do justice in describing the behavior of the LDS Church.  Just when you think you can no longer be shocked by the unbelievable actions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, surprise, their deviant behavior rears its ugly head once more.

     It makes me sad for people like my mother and others like her that the Church is leading astray.   I’m reminded of what Jesus told the disciples in Matthew 18:6;

 “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

   I just have a few questions regarding this and I’m sure you do too!  Ask your Mormon friends and loved ones:

 Why would they baptize Jesus if He’s alive? 

 Does this make Jesus’ baptism by John the Baptist null and void?

 If the Church is a “restoration” of Jesus’ original church then what’s the deal with the baptismal do-over?

      Many people are shocked when they learn there is actually a book about Jesus’ marriage to multiple wives.  It’s called “Jesus was Married”, written by Ogden Kraut.  The news of Jesus’ baptism and subsequent marriage in the temple shouldn’t really surprise us, but then again…it’s just so blasphemous.  Here’s an example of what is in that book by Mr. Kraut when he quoted Jedidiah Grant, an apostle of the LDS Church;

 Journal of Discourses 1:346; The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were “Mormons.”” – Jedidiah Grant, Salt Lake City, August 7, 1853

      Here are some thoughts on Jesus being married by other leaders of the Church:

 Journal of Discourses 2:82-83; It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, October 6, 1854

 Journal of Discourses 2:210; I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children….All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this—they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough “to fulfil all righteousness;” not only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law “to multiply and replenish the earth.” Startle not at this! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only “did that which he had seen his Father do.”” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City, March 18, 1855

 Journal of Discourses 4:259; It will be borne in mind that once on a time, there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and on a careful reading of that transaction, it will be discovered that no less a person than Jesus Christ was married on that occasion. If he was never married, his intimacy with Mary and Martha, and the other Mary also whom Jesus loved, must have been highly unbecoming and improper to say the best of it.” – Orson Hyde, Salt Lake City

 Journal of Discourses 13:309; This same truth is borne out by the Savior. Said he, when talking to his disciples: “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father;” and, “I and my Father are one.” The Scripture says that He, the Lord, came walking in the Temple, with His train; I do not know who they were, unless His wives and children; but at any rate they filled the Temple, and how many there were who could not get into the Temple I cannot say. This is the account given by Isaiah, whether he told the truth or not I leave every body to judge for himself.” – Brigham Young, Salt Lake City, November 13, 1870

 The Seer, pg. 172; “… it will be seen that the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a polygamist… the Messiah chose… by marrying many honorable wives himself, to show to all future generations that he approbated the plurality of wives under the Christian dispensation in which His polygamist ancestors lived.
“We have clearly show that God the Father had a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity, by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of Jesus His First Born, and another being upon the earth by whom He begat the tabernacle of Jesus, as his only begotten in this world. We have also proved most clearly that the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom Kings’ daughters and many honorable wives were to be married. We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit their wives in eternity as well as in time… And then it would be so shocking to the modesty of the very pious ladies of Christendom to see Abraham and his wives, Jacob and his wives, Jesus and his honorable wives, all eating occasionally at the same table, and visiting one another, and conversing about their numerous children and their kingdoms. Oh, ye delicate ladies of Christendom, how can you endure such a scene as this?… If you do not want your morals corrupted, and your delicate ears shocked, and your pious modesty put to the blush by the society of Polygamists and their wives, do not venture near the New Earth; for polygamists will be honored there, and will be among the chief rules in that Kingdom.
” – Orson Pratt

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 Jesus Christ was baptized and “sealed” to Mary Magdalene in the Salt Lake (Mormon) Temple

 By Helen Radkey © Copyright 2010, Helen Radkey June 1, 2010

 Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.

 According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010.

 The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)

 New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”

 On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record.

 The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse“Maria Magdelena.”

 “Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

  It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristianto get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”

 While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.

 Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.

 Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person.

Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.

 On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

 Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.

 LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.

 Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.

 © Copyright 2010, Helen Radkey—Permission is granted to reproduce, provided content is not changed and this copyright notice is included.

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Are Jesus & Lucifer Brothers?

      Are Jesus and Lucifer are Brothers?I grew up on the east side of Ogden, Utah in the sixties and seventies directly across the street from a Seventh-day Adventist church.  At that time there were very few non-LDS neighbors, even with the “weird church” (as we called it) across from us.  That is to say, except the neighbors to the right of us.

     For whatever reason that particular house only held its owners in for a year or two at a time and none of them were LDS.  I recall one family had a son and daughter who was roughly my age and the little girl would sometimes be allowed to play with us, but never at our home.  One day while we were playing on her swing set, she announced she wasn’t allowed to play at my house because we weren’t Christians.  When I asked her what she meant by that, she replied by saying, “You think Jesus and Lucifer are brothers and that’s not Christian”.

     Just as her final words came tumbling from her mouth I gave it my all to touch the sky in that last push on the swing.  It seemed I was in the air forever after coming out of my swing.  I wasn’t so sure the sinking feeling in my gut was a result of my record setting jump or from her blunt analysis of what makes a Christian a Christian.

     I was left with a dark icky feeling all over.  I knew what she said about the Church’s teachings was truth, but I had always been taught it wasn’t something you wanted to go and blab your mouth about in public.  To hear those words coming out of someone’s mouth while not in a ward building startled me.  And then to think she wasn’t even one of us; well, that just compounded my feeling of “ickiness” even more!

     Now with the advent of the political campaigns, the subject of one of the candidate’s faith is in the forefront of many people’s thoughts.  Websites and phone lines are abuzz with questions and innuendos from those who are seeking the truth about Mormonism.  In light of all this; here it is.

 Truth:

The LDS Church has always taught that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers!

     I’ve spent my entire 44 years of life dealing with the Mormon faith and people.  As a sixth generation Mormon from Utah, I spent the first thirty years in the Church.  The remainder of that time has been in ministry offering them hope and showing there is a way out!

     Earlier this week I spent about five minutes on the official website of the Mormon Church at www.lds.org  I’ve listed just a few references from their perspective of who Jesus is and the basics of what they believe regarding this one topic.  The references are taken from their website and my personal collection of LDS works respectively.  It’s to be understood that this one teaching of Jesus isn’t some obscure doctrine plucked from the basement of a sermon given some 150 years ago.  This teaching is a staple in the LDS psyche.

 1 – The following question and answer can be found on their website

“How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and purposes are so utterly opposed?”

Jess L. Christensen, “I Have a Question,” Ensign, June 1986, 25–26; Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah.

On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)”

 “How could two such great spirits become so totally opposite? The answer lies in the principle of agency, which has existed from all eternity. (See D&C 93:30–31.) Of Lucifer, the scripture says that because of rebellion “he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies.” (Moses 4:4.) Note that he was not created evil, but became Satan by his own choice.”

 “When our Father in Heaven presented his plan of salvation, Jesus sustained the plan and his part in it, giving the glory to God, to whom it properly belonged. Lucifer, on the other hand, sought power, honor, and glory only for himself. (See Isa. 14:13–14; Moses 4:1–2.) When his modification of the Father’s plan was rejected, he rebelled against God and was subsequently cast out of heaven with those who had sided with him. (See Rev. 12:7–9; D&C 29:36–37.)”

 That brothers would make dramatically different choices is not unusual. It has happened time and again, as the scriptures attest: Cain chose to serve Satan; Abel chose to serve God. (See Moses 5:16–18.) Esau “despised his birthright”; Jacob wanted to honor it. (Gen. 25:29–34.) Joseph’s brothers sought to kill him; he sought to preserve them. (Gen. 37:12–24; Gen. 45:3–11.)”

 2 – A quick search produced this article by Robert D. Hales, “The Aaronic Priesthood: Return with Honor,” Ensign May 1990, 39;

 “We cannot remember that we once lived with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and that we probably sat in meetings much like this, where the Father’s plan for us was explained. We cannot remember that Lucifer, a son of God the Father, a brother of Jesus Christ, rebelled against God’s plan and, in his rebellion, promised he would bring us all back home. But Lucifer would have denied us our free agency, the freedom to make decisions. We cannot remember that his plan was not accepted by us because, without choice, there would not have been a purpose for coming to this mortal probation. We would not have had opposition or repentance. We would not have learned obedience.

  3 – The article we’ve listed here is just as damning and blasphemous as the previous one.  It is hard for me to imagine that I used to believe the same thing.  It was originally a speech called “The Great Imitator” given by James E. Faust.  You can find it on the link provided or search their website for the Ensign, Nov. 1987, pg. 33.

“Satan became the devil by seeking glory, power, and dominion by force (see Moses 4:3–4). But Jesus, chosen “from the beginning” (Moses 4:2), said unto God, “Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever” (Moses 4:2). What a contrast in approaches! Wrong as his plan was, Satan was persuasive enough to entice one-third of the hosts of heaven to follow him (see D&C 29:36; Rev. 12:4). He practiced a great deception by saying, I am also a son of God (Moses 5:13).”

4 – This last quote is taken from the work of Don H. Peterson, Pearl of Great Price: A History and Commentary, pp. 141-142;

“”Long before you were born a program was developed by your creators. There was rebellion in the ranks. The proposed program called for total controls by each individual of his personal life, including restraints, sacrifices, and self-mastery…”But thank God that there were enough sane and sagacious souls on the side of truth and wisdom and the rebellious souls were vanquished as to the eternal and ultimate program. The principal personalities in this great drama were a Father Elohim, perfect in wisdom, judgment, and person, and two sons, Lucifer and Jehovah.” (Spencer W. Kimball, Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, pp. 32-33. See also George Q. Cannon, Gospel Truth, 1:137-38; Harold B. Lee, as quoted by ElRay L. Christiansen, in Ensign, Nov. 1974, p. 23; Joseph Fielding Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, 5:31.)”

      I realize my swing set experience was more than thirty years ago, but I can assure you the teachings of the Church have not changed for this one.  They still hold fast and true to the doctrine of the pre-existence and the war in heaven.  They still teach there was a council of gods that gathered to create the earth and they still teach that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.

     If you’re LDS, take a few moments of your day and do a study about Jesus.  There is no doubt in my mind the LDS people love Him.  I am speaking from thirty years of experience.

     There are many venues to employ in your research.  The first suggestion is an article from our site and the others are independent resources which are very reliable.  Don’t take my word for it – check them out!

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle

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 e-Sword:

 http://www.e-sword.net/

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“Martyrdom” of Joseph

Gospel Kingdom, pg. 360; “He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter left by Brother Wheelock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times. Only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed, died. – John Taylor (Third prophet of the Church.)

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Joseph Smith Descriptions

         Google the name of Joseph Smith and you’ll find a plethora of websites that either lauds the praises of Smith or those who show vehement hatred for the man.  My objective for this list of descriptions isn’t to show hatred towards him because I don’t feel hatred for Joseph Smith; however, I am saddened for my people that have chosen to believe in his odious lies.  Our objective for producing articles such as these is to inform and educate.

     Aside from the LDS hymn “Praise to the Man”, let’s find out just how much the Mormon people love the false prophet Joseph Smith.  If the Mormon will stay on this site long enough to see just one egregious falsehood about Smith and begin thinking about it, then I’ve done the job God has given me to do.  Our main objective isn’t to sensationalize, but to inform and lead my people into the ever loving arms of our God and Savior Christ Jesus.

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20 Helps for Mormon Friends and Loved Ones

 1 – Word studies.  See if your Mormon friends would be interested in doing a word study with you!  These are great for the new ex-Mormon as well as for the Mormon.  Just pick your favorite word/topic from the Bible, find all the places in the Bible where this word is used to get the full context and share with each other what you’ve learned.  Make sure you both use a reputable concordance and dictionary.  Also let them know their opinion counts, that what they have to say matters to you personally.  You don’t have to agree with their opinion, but their spiritual condition obviously matters to you or you wouldn’t bother trying.

 2 – Go out of your way to share with the Mormon what Jesus did for you today.  Use scripture to back it up.  Show them how you applied that scripture to make it a personal message from the Lord to you.  Teach them how to read the Bible as a personal letter from God to them personally.

 3 – Invite them to non-threatening events at your church, i.e. women’s teas, men’s breakfasts, dessert theaters, etc. Let them be around Christian ‘things’ as much as possible, i.e., the cross, Bibles that usually lay around churches, actual people inside the church building in the daytime if possible during the week, etc.

 4 – Listen to Christian music while they’re around you so they can hear the words.  Most Christian hymns and songs contain scripture.  Isaiah 55:11 says His words will not return void.

 5 – Have your Bible open to various passages of scripture when they visit.

 6 – Make sure you’re the one that does the praying if the occasion arises and grab their hand to hold it during prayer.  Never fold your arms while praying with a Mormon and don’t allow them to do the praying.  They are not praying to the true God of the Bible, therefore this isn’t something you’d want to submit yourself to either.

 7 – Ask them various questions about their church.  As you know this may cause animosity at some point but it does give them something to think about.  Ask why they have to store food when Jesus told us in the Bible not to worry about tomorrow when it has troubles of its own – Matthew 6:34.  Who is more credible to them personally – Joseph and the living prophet or Jesus Christ; then ask why.

 8 – Ask what their favorite verse is in the Book of Mormon and why.  Tell them you’ve learned the major tenets of Mormonism are not in the Book of Mormon and ask if this is true.  If they say they are, prod them by asking what is in it and where specifically the teaching is located.

 9 – Ask why they don’t have crosses in their homes or wear them in a necklace.  Ask how they feel about the cross and share with them what the cross means to you personally.

 10 – Ask them why God would need Satan to fulfill his plan for mankind. 2 Nephi 2:11; “For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad…”  This is actually a basic tenet within Witchcraft.  Witchcraft believes there must be an equal balance in all things; good for bad and bad for good.  In other words, yin yang.

 11 – Ask them why the book of Jacob says not to practice polygamy but the Doctrine and Covenants says it means exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom (their highest kingdom of heaven).  Jacob 2:24; D&C 132:4-7.

 12 – Ask for their opinion about D&C 1:37 which says the commandments in that book are true and everything will be fulfilled.  Polygamy was outlawed in 1890.

 13 – Ask how dead people can repent.  How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?  Why did Jesus say “It is finished” in John 19:30?  How can dead people work for their salvation?

                                               D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

 14 – Ask what they think of the following information;

 2 Nephi 9:9 describes Satan.  “…yea, to that being that who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself into an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness”.

 1976 Introductory page of Doctrine & Covenants describes Moroni.  “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

 Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed …” (A note to the Christian:  the heavenly messenger Smith is talking about is Moroni, an angel of light.)

 Matthew 26:31-4; “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night…Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.” – Also see 2 Cor. 11:14.

 15 – Ask the Mormon why they have to be baptized at the age of 8 for the remission of sins if they are considered to be without sin until then.  Moroni 8:9-13.

 D&C 68:27; “And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.”

 16 – Ask why the Book of Mormon says the earth was covered in darkness for 3 days at the crucifixion of Jesus.  1 Nephi 19:10; Helaman 14:20, 27; 3 Nephi 8:3.  Compare with Matthew 27:45.  Mormons will tell you earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, lasted for 3 hours and then the darkness lasted for 3 days.  The Bible says no such thing.

 17 – Ask your Mormon loved one if they fully accept the Bible.  The answer to this question varies from person to person.  If there is some hesitation to full acceptance ask why and then offer help to investigate reliable sources outside the LDS Church to find out which scriptures have not been translated correctly.

 18 – Ask the Mormon: “if you died tonight would you go to heaven?”  Most if not all will say they don’t know.  Share your favorite passages from the Bible on how you have assurance of salvation.

 19 – Have you told your Mormon friend who Jesus is from the Bible?  Have you told them He is God incarnate & also prophesied about in the Old Testament 333 times?  Look for other interesting facts about the Bible to share.  These types of things are typically non-threatening.  If they say he is the god of this world show them 2 Cor. 4:4.

 20 –Do a simple Bible study with them just on Isaiah chapter 53.  There are 48 prophecies of Jesus in that one chapter alone and each of them has been fulfilled!  LDS doctrines teach some of these prophecies are about Joseph Smith.

 Also see How to Witness http://www.lifeafter.org/how_to_witness.asp

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1 Cor. 1:18; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

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Interesting Facts about the 3 in 1, pt. 5      

 The reason for this work and ministry is threefold.

     3-in-1The first is to bring honor and glory to our Lord God Jesus Christ in all that we do.  The second is to provide information from the LDS Church to its members in a cohesive manner to help answer their questions.  And the third is to provide our Christian readers with truthful information about the LDS Church they can use as an effective tool for witnessing to those caught in the lies of the evil one.

     I cannot begin to tell you, the reader, how many times we’ve cried for the situation the Mormons find themselves in because we were once there ourselves and know how desperate it feels.

     Oh if I could find a way to articulate to them how much Jesus truly loves them!  And how I pray our Lord will continue to lift our heads in encouragement for those who are lost.

     The series of articles “Interesting Facts about the 3-in-1” (or triple combination) are a simple tool to get a quick glance of how the Mormon Church deliberately chooses to confuse its members.

     As I write this there is a picture of some of my family members on my laptop and my heart breaks they cannot see these simple truths.  My mother and grandmother look beyond tired.  The dark circles under their eyes speak silently to the decades of disappointments and fears.  A cousin of mine that is three years my junior looks twenty years older than me.

     Heavenly Father tells us that His word does not come back void in Isaiah 55:11.  I pray each day they will remember the glorious message of God’s love for them I was able to share when they allowed me to take their pictures just a year ago.  Twenty-eight of them gathered for a family picnic last summer…that picture sits next to my open document on the desktop of my computer screen.

     I pray you’ll be able to use these discrepancies in their own sacred works to ask them what they think.  While a few of the items provided do not come from the Triple Combination they are easy enough to find on the web.

     All materials used come directly from LDS Church writings.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle

Jude 1:24-25  …

 Born into Sin or Born Perfect?

 1 Nephi 20:8;Yea, and thou heardest not; yea, thou knewest not; yea, from that time thine ear was not opened; for I knew that thou wouldst deal very treacherously, and wast called a transgressor from the womb.

D&C 29:47;Wherefore, they cannot sin, for power is not given unto Satan to tempt little children, until they begin to become accountable before me.

Romans 3:23; For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

 Ephraim, does he or does he not have descendants?

 2 Nephi 17:8-9; “For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus, Rezin; and within three score and five years shall Ephraim be broken that it be not a people.    9 And the head of Ephraim is Samaria, and the head of Samaria is Remaliah’s son. If ye will not believe surely ye shall not be established.” – BC 559 to 545

Answers to Gospel Questions 1:140; “Latter-day Saints pride themselves because they are of Israel; but they are also of the Gentiles. We are the descendants of those members of the house of Israel who were scattered among the Gentiles to be a blessing to the Gentile nations and make them of the blood of Israel through the gospel… The Book of Mormon came by way of the Prophet Joseph Smith, a descendant of Ephraim, yet it came “by way of the Gentile,” and in the time of the Gentiles.

Hosea 9:11-17;  As for Ephraim, their glory shall fly away like a bird, from the birth, and from the womb, and from the conception.12 Though they bring up their children, yet will I bereave them, that there shall not be a man left: yea, woe also to them when I depart from them! 13 Ephraim, as I saw Tyrus, is planted in a pleasant place: but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. 14 Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. 15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. 16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. 17 My God will cast them away, because they did not hearken unto him: and they shall be wanderers among the nations.

 Who is King?

D&C 38:21-22; But, verily I say unto you that in time ye shall have no king nor ruler, for I will be your king and watch over you. 22 Wherefore, hear my voice and follow me, and you shall be a free people, and ye shall have no laws but my laws when I come, for I am your lawgiver, and what can stay my hand?

Times & Seasons 5:618; “…to build up the kingdom upon the foundation that the prophet Joseph has laid, who still holds the keys of this last dispensation, and will hold them to all eternity, as a king and priest unto the most high God, ministering in heaven, on earth, or among the spirits of the departed dead, as seemeth good to him who sent him.

Improvement Era 1909, Vol Xiii, No. 1; Every man reigns a king over the kingdom of—self. He wears the crown of individuality that no hands but his own can ever remove. He should not only reign, but—rule. His individuality is his true self, his best self, his highest self, his self victorious…Man reigns over this miniature kingdom of self—alone. He is as much an autocrat as is God in ruling the universe. No one can make him good or evil but he, himself.

1 Timothy 1:17; Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 Baptism for Dead not Necessary

 2 Nephi 9:38; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.

D&C 124:29-30; For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead—30 For this ordinance belongeth to my house, and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me.

Isaiah 64:6; But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

 Bible is Eternal

 2 Nephi 9:16; And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away.

8th Article of Faith; “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.”

Matthew 5:18; For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matt. 24:35; “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Prov. 30:5-6; “Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.”

 Mormon god cannot keep promise

Mosiah 27:13; “Nevertheless he cried again, saying: Alma, arise and stand forth, for why persecutest thou the church of God? For the Lord hath said: This is my church, and I will establish it; and nothing shall overthrow it, save it is the transgression of my people.”

Psalm 31:23; O love the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer.

Psalm 37:28-29; For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.  29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.

 Mormon Jesus Says No to Food Storage

3 Nephi 13:31; “Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?”

D&C 109:8; Organize yourselves; prepare every needful thing, and establish a house, even a house of prayer, a house of fasting, a house of faith, a house of learning, a house of glory, a house of order, a house of God.

Matthew 6:31-32; Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

 Biggest Lie (one of them anyway) in Mormonism

Ether 12:11-12; “Wherefore, by faith was the law of Moses given. But in the gift of his Son hath God prepared a more excellent way; and it is by faith that it hath been fulfilled. 12 For if there be no faith among the children of men God can do no miracle among them; wherefore, he showed not himself until after their faith.”

Matthew 5:45; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Romans 3:3-4; For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?  4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

 Honestly, how is this “inspired”?

Moroni 10:1; “Now I, Moroni, write somewhat as seemeth me good…”

Jarom 1:1-2; “Now behold, I, Jarom, write a few words according to the commandment of my father, Enos, that our genealogy may be kept.  2 And as these plates are small, and as these things are written for the intent of the benefit of our brethren the Lamanites, wherefore, it must needs be that I write a little; but I shall not write the things of my prophesying, nor of my revelations. For what could I write more than my fathers have written? For have not they revealed the plan of salvation? I say unto you, Yea; and this sufficeth me.”

1 Nephi 6:3; “And it mattereth not to me that I am particular to give a full account of all the things of my father, for they cannot be written upon these plates, for I desire the room that I may write of the things of God.”

Jacob 1:1-2; “Nephi gave me, Jacob, a commandment concerning the small plates, upon which these things are engraven. 2 And he gave me, Jacob, a commandment that I should write upon these plates a few of the things which I considered to be most precious”

Omni 1:1; “Behold, it came to pass that I, Omni, being commanded by my father, Jarom, that I should write somewhat upon these plates, to preserve our genealogy.”

2 Peter 1:20-21; Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.  21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

 Who Visited Joseph that Night – Moroni or Nephi?

Introductory page of D&C 1976, 3rd paragraph; This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September, 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which The Book of Mormon was afterward translated.

Joseph Smith History 1:32-33; The room was exceedingly light, but not so very bright as immediately around his person. When I first looked upon him, I was afraid; but the fear soon left me.  33 He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Moroni; that God had a work for me to do; and that my name should be had for good and evil…”

Times and Seasons, vol. 3 (November 1841 – October 1842): pg. 753; “The room was exceedingly light, but not so very bright as immediately around his person. When I first looked upon him I was afraid, but the fear soon left me. He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Nephi. That God had a work for me to do, and that my name should be had for good and evil…”

2 Cor. 11:13-15; For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.  14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.  15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

 

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Interesting Facts of the 3 – in – 1 Part 4

 Alpha and Omega – Jesus is God

     3-in-1One of the biggest shocks for me when I left the Church was finding out that Jesus is God.  I felt very small for a really long time afterwards, wondering how I had never known this big piece of theological information.

     Fifteen years later I’ve come to know how easy enough it is for all of us to become “immune” to the true meaning of every day vocabulary.  However, when you’re LDS this is compounded by not knowing that dictionaries can also be used for help when reading our Bibles to find out things like Jesus is God.

     Recently while doing research for another article I found that the use of Alpha and Omega was used so frequently in the D&C it’d be a good idea to stop and think about the meaning of this phrase. Here is how the Holman Bible Dictionary describes Alpha and Omega;

 “ALPHA – ALPHA AND OMEGA are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used in Revelation to describe God or Christ (Rev. 1:8, 17; 21:6; 22:13.) “Alpha and omega” refers to God’s sovereignty and eternal nature. God and Christ are “the beginning and the end, the first and last.” (Rev. 22:13). Thus they control all history and all humans of all generations.

OMEGA  (oh mee’ guh) Last letter in the Greek alphabet. Together with the first letter, alpha, omega designates God and Christ as the all-encompassing Reality (Rev. 1:8; 21:6; 22:13).

      The idea that God and Christ control everything is simply mind boggling to me!  This God that we worship has created everything, yet knows me intimately and loves me too…there are no words to describe the comfort this brings.  Our prayer for the Mormon people is for them to know the inexpressible peace this God can bring to them as well.  I just can’t imagine Smith proclaiming this joy to the people when we read his works.  So the questions are as follows:

 Is Jesus God or not?

If He isn’t then why do several verses in D&C say that He is?

Was Joseph mistaken or was he purposefully trying to confuse members of the Church?

If God hates liars why would He allow only part of His word to be truth?

     The following list gives 22 examples of how the Mormon Church lies.  D&C 130:22 alone contradicts the examples below and does not support that Jesus is God.  There were verses in my little study I didn’t include on this list and I’m sure there are still others I’ve accidentally missed.

D&C 10:70; And now, remember the words of him who is the life and light of the world, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Amen.

D&C 17:9; And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it unto you, that I might bring about my righteous purposes unto the children of men. Amen.

D&C 18:31; And I, Jesus Christ, your Lord and your God, have spoken it.

D&C 19:1; I am Alpha and Omega, Christ the Lord; yea, even I am he, the beginning and the end, the Redeemer of the world.

D&C 20:28; Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.

D&C 27:1; Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Lord, your God, and your Redeemer, whose word is quick and powerful.

D&C 29:1; Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Redeemer, the Great I AM, whose arm of mercy hath atoned for your sins.

D&C 34:1; My son Orson, hearken and hear and behold what I, the Lord God, shall say unto you, even Jesus Christ your Redeemer.

D&C 35:1-2; Listen to the voice of the Lord your God, even Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, whose course is one eternal round, the same today as yesterday, and forever.2 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who was crucified for the sins of the world…

D&C 36:1, 8; Thus saith the Lord God, the Mighty One of Israel: Behold, I say unto you, my servant Edward, that you are blessed, and your sins are forgiven you, and you are called to preach my gospel as with the voice of a trump. 8 I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God; wherefore, gird up your loins and I will suddenly come to my temple. Even so. Amen.

D&C 38:1; Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great I AM, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made.

D&C 39:1; Hearken and listen to the voice of him who is from all eternity to all eternity, the Great I AM, even Jesus Christ

D&C 51:1, 20; Hearken unto me, saith the Lord your God, and I will speak unto my servant Edward Partridge… 20 Verily, I say unto you, I am Jesus Christ, who cometh quickly, in an hour you think not. Even so. Amen.

D&C 53:1-2; Behold, I say unto you, my servant Sidney Gilbert, that I have heard your prayers; and you have called upon me that it should be made known unto you, of the Lord your God, concerning your calling and election in the church, which I, the Lord, have raised up in these last days. 2 Behold, I, the Lord, who was crucified for the sins of the world

D&C 62:1; Behold, and hearken, O ye elders of my church, saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, your advocate, who knoweth the weakness of man and how to succor them who are tempted.

D&C 63:59-60; Behold, I am from above, and my power lieth beneath. I am over all, and in all, and through all, and search all things, and the day cometh that all things shall be subject unto me.60 Behold, I am Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ.

D&C 66:13; Verily, thus saith the Lord your God, your Redeemer, even Jesus Christ. Amen.

D&C 76:1; Hear, O ye heavens, and give ear, O earth, and rejoice ye inhabitants thereof, for the Lord is God, and beside him there is no Savior.

D&C 81:7; Behold, and lo, these are the words of Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ. Amen.

D&C 130:22; The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

 Gal. 6:7; Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

 Dead People Repent

      The following is interesting.

 D&C 138:58-59;The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

 How can dead people repent?

How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?

What about Jesus?

Didn’t the vicarious service of baptism for the dead settle their account?

Gnashing of Teeth

Alma 14:21; And many such things did they say unto them, gnashing their teeth upon them, and spitting upon them, and saying: How shall we look when we are damned?

 Questions:

 How exactly does one go about gnashing teeth upon someone?

Does this sound inspired of God?

 Strange Acts of God

     The indwelling of the Holy Spirit into the adopted children of God has to be one of the best miracles God has ever performed.  I sit in awe each time I dwell upon His love for me and for the way He is ever faithful.  Nothing about His works has ever been to demean or abuse us.  And knowing He is always there to provide for me will always be a comfort to me.  I wouldn’t pretend to know what lies ahead for me personally in this life, but I know I will always be humbled and safe.  That is why I find it offensive when I discovered this verse in the Doctrine and Covenants.

 D&C 95:4; For the preparation wherewith I design to prepare mine apostles to prune my vineyard for the last time, that I may bring to pass my strange act, that I may pour out my Spirit upon all flesh.

John 14:16-18; And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

 No Polygamy!

     Ugh, this is one of my most dreaded subjects that we deal with concerning Mormonism.  The demoralization of this vulgar practice knows no bounds. Those who are caught in its snares are affected in one way or another for life; men, women and children alike.  The warnings from Moses down to Paul weren’t meant solely for their day, but for ours as well.  It makes me think that maybe God knew what He was talking about!

 D&C 42:22, 26; Thou shalt love thy wife with all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else.  But if he doeth it again, he shall not be forgiven, but shall be cast out.

Deut. 17:17; Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

 8 Months Later…Another Prophecy on Polygamy and Temptation

D&C 66:10-11; Seek not to be cumbered. Forsake all unrighteousness. Commit not adultery—a temptation with which thou hast been troubled.  11 Keep these sayings, for they are true and faithful; and thou shalt magnify thine office, and push many people to Zion with songs of everlasting joy upon their heads.

Ex. 20:14; Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Save Yourselves

     Just about everyone I’ve met tells me the same thing; “If the Mormon really believes all this then why are they so nice?”

     I do admit on the outside they do seem amiable enough, but being friendly doesn’t get you into heaven any faster than saving yourself can.  And this is what breaks my heart for the Mormon people.  They are nice, but they also believe they are their own Saviors.  Try as I might I cannot convince my mother that being a doormat for the Relief Society doesn’t gain her Brownie points with God.  Yet this is the only message the Mormons ever preach.

 D&C 38:40-42; And again, I say unto you, I give unto you a commandment, that every man, both elder, priest, teacher, and also member, go to with his might, with the labor of his hands, to prepare and accomplish the things which I have commanded.  41 And let your preaching be the warning voice, every man to his neighbor, in mildness and in meekness.  42 And go ye out from among the wicked. Save yourselves. Be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord. Even so. Amen.

Gal. 2:16-17; Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.  17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

 Odd Reactions

     Whenever I see things like this I have to wonder…

 Is this really inspired?

      The Holman Bible dictionary says this about the inspiration of scripture; “As indicated in the biblical explanation, inspiration is a divine-human encounter whereby God reveals truth. It is a message from God and of God, as well as through persons and for persons.”  From this understanding we can therefore ask ourselves if it is an inspired work of God.

 Is the “scripture” below a message from God and of God?

Is it for people like you, me or even my mother?

How is this “scripture” beneficial for your spiritual growth?

 Alma 14:8-11; And they brought their wives and children together, and whosoever believed or had been taught to believe in the word of God they caused that they should be cast into the fire; and they also brought forth their records which contained the holy scriptures, and cast them into the fire also, that they might be burned and destroyed by fire.  9 And it came to pass that they took Alma and Amulek, and carried them forth to the place of martyrdom, that they might witness the destruction of those who were consumed by fire.  10 And when Amulek saw the pains of the women and children who were consuming in the fire, he also was pained; and he said unto Alma: How can we witness this awful scene? Therefore let us stretch forth our hands, and exercise the power of God which is in us, and save them from the flames.  11 But Alma said unto him: The Spirit constraineth me that I must not stretch forth mine hand; for behold the Lord receiveth them up unto himself, in glory; and he doth suffer that they may do this thing, or that the people may do this thing unto them, according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgments which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent shall stand as a witness against them, yea, and cry mightily against them at the last day.

      Questions:

 If these holy men had the opportunity to save righteous people from the fire why didn’t they do it? 

How was watching these people burn so that others would go to hell be the proper thing to do?

 From a Christian who wrote in asking the following question and providing the verses below: 

 “Would you say there is a correlation here?”

 3 Nephi 17:23-24;And he spake unto the multitude, and said unto them: Behold your little ones.  24 And as they looked to behold they cast their eyes towards heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven as it were in the midst of fire; and they came down and encircled those little ones about, and they were encircled about with fire; and the angels did minister unto them.

Lev. 18:21; And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

      As always we are praying the LDS will stop for just a moment and contemplate a few of these scenarios.  I personally know what it means to be overwhelmed with it all, but when that scenario was taking place for me fifteen years ago, the one thing I knew I had to do was listen to Jesus’ voice more above my family’s heritage.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

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Interesting Facts about the 3 – in – 1 – Part 3

      3-in-1We’re taking a deeper look at the claims of the Triple Combination for the sake of the Mormons as well as the Christians!  So here we go with the third installment of Interesting Facts about the Triple Combination.

 What’s in a Name – again!

 2 Nephi 10:3;

 “Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name.

False Promises

      I asked a few friends to help me count how many verses they could find containing Greek words in the Book of Mormon.  Thanks to everyone’s help we came up with the discovery of several Greek words which appeared in 752 verses throughout the BC era of the Book of Mormon!  The reason for pointing this out is twofold.  First of all why were Greek words being used in the BC era?

Secondly, Smith publicly proclaimed the Book of Mormon contained no such thing!  In Times & Seasons 4:194 it says;

 “There was no Greek or Latin upon the plates from which I, through the grace of God, translated the Book of Mormon Let the language of that book speak for itself.”

      Whenever I am reminded of this scenario I think of what the Apostle Paul told the Galatians in 1:6-9;

 “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.  8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

      “Why or better yet how, could you not question these things?”  This is the question I receive from Christians all the time when writing in to ask why their loved one has fallen into the trap of Mormonism.  With all of the evidence of plagiarism, lies, and improbabilities, it is amazing that people do not question.  When I was LDS I remember seeing these things and then blaming myself for not understanding or for questioning the Church.  Remember though one of the other things the Apostle Paul warned us about in Ephesians 6:11-12;

 “Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 Eve Praises God for Their Sin

      The contradictions found in LDS theology run rampant in regards to the subject of sin.  The average Mormon truly believes two things that are diametrically opposed to what God declares.  1 – Man is inherently evil.  2 – They believe it was necessary that Adam & Eve sin.

     As you dig deeper into Mormon theology, you can easily see how they keep members confused.  The following two examples are found in the Pearl of Great Price.  As you can see in the first example they are lauding Eve’s choice and in another instance they are being taught that by sinning you are choosing to be separated from God.

 Moses 5:11; “And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.

 Moses 6:48-50; “And as Enoch spake forth the words of God, the people trembled, and could not stand in his presence.  48 And he said unto them: Because that Adam fell, we are; and by his fall came death; and we are made partakers of misery and woe.  49 Behold Satan hath come among the children of men, and tempteth them to worship him; and men have become carnal, sensual, and devilish, and are shut out from the presence of God.  50 But God hath made known unto our fathers that all men must repent.

      Compare this with what the Bible says in Romans 3:23;

 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

      Also see Rom. 5:12;

 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”

 The Making of Mankind

      Moses 2:27;

 “And I, God, created man in mine own image, in the image of mine Only Begotten created I him; male and female created I them.”

      If God created male and female after His own image and God is an exalted man as they claim in D&C 130:22, would this mean that God is also an exalted woman?

 Timeliness is of the Utmost Importance…

 Abraham 3:24 says;

 “And there stood one among them that was like unto God, and he said unto those who were with him: We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell.

      Where exactly is “down there”?  Wouldn’t that mean there was already something down there that had been created and if so, wouldn’t that contradict Abraham 3:22 which says;

 “Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones.

 Packing Your Bags…Travel Itineraries for Nephites & Jaredites

      First Nephi tells us about the travels of the prophet Lehi and his sons, one of which is Nephi of course.

     Is it reasonable that Lehi and his family could have left Jerusalem and walked 210 miles in three days to get to the Red Sea?  See 1 Nephi 2:4-7.

     Also note 1 Nephi 2:6, 8 which tells us Nephi & company traveled 3 days in the wilderness to get to the Red Sea and then set up camp next to a river called Laman.

 1 – Most travelers in those days could travel roughly 15 miles on a really good day’s travel.  The distance between the northern tip of the Red Sea to Jerusalem is approximately 153 miles.  That’s roughly ten or so days and as you can see Nephi said he did it in three.  Is this really possible?

2 – There has never been a river that has emptied into the Red Sea; even to this day.  There are and have been canals built for shipping for the past 200-300 years, but no rivers.

      The story in Nephi would be considered a false prophecy.  I realize this is “tough language”; but we need to be honest here and call it what it is – a lie.  A good concise map and data can be found at www.encyclopedia.com for info on this subject.

     In the book of Ether we find Jared, his family and friends building and then packing their boat for the trip to the Promised Land.  There are several items of note within this text that we could spend a good amount of time in, however let’s just look at a few interesting “facts”.

 In Ether 2:2 it says;

 “And they did also lay snares and catch fowls of the air; and they did also prepare a vessel, in which they did carry with them the fish of the waters.

      If they’re going to be sailing for a bit of time, why would they need to pack fish?  Noah was out on the waters for about 370 days and the Bible doesn’t mention one thing about him packing fish of any kind to take with him.  See Gen. 7:11-13 & Gen. 8:14-15 for length of time Noah was on the Ark.

     Didn’t they (the Jaredites) have any food?  If they didn’t need to eat the fish, where were they kept – an aquarium?

 Ether 2:18-20 says;

 “And it came to pass that the brother of Jared cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord, I have performed the work which thou hast commanded me, and I have made the barges according as thou hast directed me.  19 And behold, O Lord, in them there is no light; whither shall we steer? And also we shall perish, for in them we cannot breathe, save it is the air which is in them; therefore we shall perish.  20 And the Lord said unto the brother of Jared: Behold, thou shalt make a hole in the top, and also in the bottom; and when thou shalt suffer for air thou shalt unstop the hole and receive air. And if it be so that the water come in upon thee, behold, ye shall stop the hole, that ye may not perish in the flood.

      Why didn’t the Lord remember to put air holes in the “barges” so they could breathe and why was there a “plug” in the bottom of the boat?  How could air come into the boat if you’re using the plug in the bottom?  Wouldn’t only water be coming through?

 Why was there an Apostasy?

      3 Nephi 28:1-18 is the account of when Jesus told three of the Nephites they would never die.  (Also see “This is My Gospel, Book of Mormon Gospel Doctrine Teacher’s Manual”, pg. 185)*

     Here we have a few people wandering the earth with the “truth” and no one intervenes to warn the Christians they were falling into an apostasy?

     The history of Joseph Smith in 1:19 says that God told Joseph not to join any of the churches, for they were all wrong.

 Joseph Smith History 1:19; “I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

      For a concise explanation of what the Church considers to be “the Apostasy” see what the Apostle Bruce McConkie said in Mormon Doctrine, pg. 699;

 “Existence of the sects of Christendom is proof positive of the universal apostasy. Truth is one; Christ is not divided; those who enjoy the Spirit, all speak the same things; there are no divisions among them; but they are “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” (1 Cor. 1:10-13.) When Joseph Smith retired to the Sacred Grove, it was to ask the Lord which of all the sects was right and which he should join. The answer: “I must join none of them, for they were all wrong.” (Jos. Smith 2:14-20.)

      Of course we know this is nothing but lies.  Jesus promises us in Matthew 16:18 that His church will always stand the test of time!

 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

    Dietary Laws for the People of the Book of Mormon

      It is difficult at best to believe the Jewish people wouldn’t know or understand Torah.  The life of a typical Israelite is lived obeying and observing it.  The country they lived in or traveled through wouldn’t matter; they knew the Law just as much as you and I know the pledge of allegiance as it was ingrained in them from one generation to the next.

 About Wine:

      This first example puzzles me because here we have a direct example of how to take the Lord’s Supper using wine.  Apparently this wasn’t a sin, but now it is?  Also note how they prayed in the name of the Eternal Father.  The god of Mormonism isn’t eternal.

 Moroni 5:1-2;

 “The manner of administering the wine—Behold, they took the cup, and said:  2 O God, the Eternal Father, we ask thee, in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ, to bless and sanctify this wine to the souls of all those who drink of it, that they may do it in remembrance of the blood of thy Son, which was shed for them; that they may witness unto thee, O God, the Eternal Father, that they do always remember him, that they may have his Spirit to be with them. Amen.

 About Raw Meat:

 1 Nephi 17:2;

 “And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men; and they began to bear their journeyings without murmurings.

 1 Nephi 17:12;

 “For the Lord had not hitherto suffered that we should make much fire, as we journeyed in the wilderness; for he said: I will make thy food become sweet, that ye cook it not.

 Lev. 7:26-27;

 “Moreover ye shall eat no manner of blood, whether it be of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings. 27 Whatsoever soul it be that eateth any manner of blood, even that soul shall be cut off from his people.

 Lev. 19:26;

 “Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

 About Swine:

 Ether 9:18;

 “And also all manner of cattle, of oxen, and cows, and of sheep, and of swine, and of goats, and also many other kinds of animals which were useful for the food of man.

 Leviticus 11:7-8; “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

How Did Ammon Know to Quote Jesus in 90 BC?

Alma 19:10;

 “And Ammon said unto her: Blessed art thou because of thy exceeding faith; I say unto thee, woman, there has not been such great faith among all the people of the Nephites.

      It’s obvious that Smith is plagiarizing Jesus.  How would someone in Mesoamerica know to say something like this 120 years before it was said by Jesus Himself in Luke 7:9;

 “When Jesus heard these things, he marvelled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.

Personal Injuries

 1 N 4:19-21;

 “And after I had smitten off his head with his own sword, I took the garments of Laban and put them upon mine own body; yea, even every whit; and I did gird on his armor about my loins.  20 And after I had done this, I went forth unto the treasury of Laban. And as I went forth towards the treasury of Laban, behold, I saw the servant of Laban who had the keys of the treasury. And I commanded him in the voice of Laban, that he should go with me into the treasury.  21 And he supposed me to be his master, Laban, for he beheld the garments and also the sword girded about my loins.

      Notice there was no mention of any blood found upon the body of Nephi from the beheading of Laban…Alma 44:12-16;

 “And now when Moroni had said these words, Zerahemnah retained his sword, and he was angry with Moroni, and he rushed forward that he might slay Moroni; but as he raised his sword, behold, one of Moroni’s soldiers smote it even to the earth, and it broke by the hilt; and he also smote Zerahemnah that he took off his scalp and it fell to the earth…16 Now it came to pass that Zerahemnah was exceedingly wroth, and he did stir up the remainder of his soldiers to anger, to contend more powerfully against the Nephites.

      Zerhemnah gets scalped and all it says is that he’s “wroth”?  I would imagine that I’d be a little more than angry if I got scalped.

 Twelve years of war and not one person died… really?  Alma 56:56;

 “But behold, to my great joy, there had not one soul of them fallen to the earth; yea, and they had fought as if with the strength of God; yea, never were men known to have fought with such miraculous strength; and with such mighty power did they fall upon the Lamanites, that they did frighten them; and for this cause did the Lamanites deliver themselves up as prisoners of war.

Living Under Law

    The following verse in the Doctrine and Covenants make me absolutely heart sick for the Mormon people and angry with the leadership that will not tell the truth about God.  Memories of my mother working herself almost to death for the sake of a false gospel has left me baffled on many an occasion.

     If we were to work under the Law then why pray tell even bother with the Jesus side of things?

 D&C 132:32;

 “Go ye, therefore, and do the works of Abraham; enter ye into my law and ye shall be saved.

      There are two passages of scripture that keep coming to mind whenever I read this in the Mormon “scripture”.  Romans 4:2-3 and Galatians 2:20-21;

 “For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

 “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      Clearly we are living under grace now, if you’ve accepted the Messiah actually delivered on His promises that is.  The scripture is also very clear about living under the Law:

 Galatians 5:3-4; “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

 Romans 5:19; “For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

      Notice how Paul said that by one man’s obedience.  This demonstrates it isn’t by your works or my works, it is by one person’s obedience, that being Jesus Christ.

 Deacons

     The list of discrepancies, contradictions and outright lies are many in the teachings of the LDS Church, so when I’m going through my list of what to publish for these articles, I am trying to just pull out the most prevalent.  This particular subject matter caught my attention because of its levity.

     When we take communion it is a very serious event for those of us who participate in it.  In fact the Apostle Paul said this in 1 Cor. 11:26-27 regarding the Lord’s Supper;

 “For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord.

      I could go on and on about the elements of bread & wine or juice in the Christian churches vs. the “Wonderbread” and water the LDS Church uses and the way they administer it with everyone just eating and drinking at their own will, but that’s for another time…

     The LDS Church ascribes to the teachings of Joseph Smith by observing the perfunctory ordinances at each and every event, but I am left to wonder why they haven’t changed their “scripture” for this one.

     D&C 20:58 says;

 “But neither teachers nor deacons have authority to baptize, administer the sacrament, or lay on hands.”

      This must have been a pretty important rule if Smith thought enough of it to make it “scripture”, so I have to ask the proverbial “why” on this one.  Mormon Doctrine pg. 361 says this about the deacons and sacrament;

 “Twelve-year-old LDS males usually receive the Aaronic Priesthood and are ordained deacons, continuing in that priesthood office until age fourteen. Deacons receive assignments from their bishops that may include distributing the Sacrament to the congregation, serving as messengers, collecting fast offerings, providing assistance to the elderly or disabled, and caring for the meetinghouse and grounds.

      Again, please know that we don’t publish our findings or write these articles to bash or demean the Mormon people.  We love the people dearly and our prayer is that they will come to know the real Jesus Christ of the Bible who died for them.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

 *The following “note” appears at the end of page 185 in Gospel Doctrines Teachers Manual.  It’s interesting how they teach their members to keep secret about things and to not discuss them amongst each other.  Could it be they might logically come to the conclusion this was a fabricated story?  “Note: Stories often circulate about the three Nephites who were translated. Members of the Church should be careful about accepting or retelling these stories. You should not discuss them in class.”

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Interesting Facts about the 3-IN-1 – Part 2

     3-in-1 A few years ago I wrote an article pointing out a few discrepancies in the writings of LDS doctrines.  My purpose in this is to lovingly point out some items that are indeed confusing.  I had someone e-mail a few weeks ago that told me she is “Mormon doctrine” so it was always going to be insulting when I write things that are “anti”.

     There are two things I have to say about that comment.  1 – People are not a rule written down on a piece of paper.  You are a human being whom God loves and who He has created.  2 – The materials that I use for information on this website are not written out of maliciousness towards the Mormon people.  The information gathered is taken directly from the writings of the LDS Church making it impossible to be “anti”.

 FALSE PROPHECY ABOUT DARKNESS AT CRUCIFIXION

 1 Nephi 19:10 says there would be three days of darkness on the day of Jesus’ crucifixion.

 The Bible says there were three hours of darkness at the time of the crucifixion:  Mark 15:33 says; “And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.”

 NEPHI SAYS WOE TO THEM WHO DIE IN SINS; BIBLE ASKS WHY ARE YOU BAPTIZING DEAD PEOPLE; D&C SAYS IT IS GOD’S ORDINANCE TO BAPTIZE THE DEAD

 2 Nephi 9:38; “And, in fine, wo unto all those who die in their sins; for they shall return to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.”

 D&C 124:29-30; “For a baptismal font there is not upon the earth, that they, my saints, may be baptized for those who are dead— For this ordinance belongeth to my house, and cannot be acceptable to me, only in the days of your poverty, wherein ye are not able to build a house unto me.”

 1 Cor. 15:29 says; “Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?”

      The question begs to be asked; what is going on here?   The apostle Paul was asking the Corinthians why they were practicing a pagan cult ritual when they didn’t even believe in the resurrection.  Nephi says there are no second chances in heaven; once you’re dead, that it folks, your time to obey and believe is done.  And lastly we see how Joseph has said that God demands we baptize our dead relatives so they may be saved as well.  This is a classic example of how the LDS doctrine confuses people.

 THE COLOR ISSUE

 2 Nephi 26:33 says; “… for he doeth that which is good among the children of men; and he doeth nothing save it be plain unto the children of men… and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female…

 Answers to Gospel Questions, 2:188; “Kindly see chapters 15 and 16, in The Way to Perfection, for further light in relation to the reason why the Negro cannot receive the priesthood. In brief, it is as follows: Because of transgression in the first estate which deprives him in this second estate. Since Cain slew his brother… the children of Cain should not have the privilege of bearing the priesthood until Abel had posterity who could have the priesthood and that will have to be in the far distant future. When this is accomplished on some other world, then the restrictions will be removed from the children of Cain…

        The following passages of LDS “scripture” further explain why God turned people dark after they were here on earth and why they were not allowed to hold the priesthood until 1978:  Abraham 1:21-7; Moses 7:7-8; 2 Nephi 5:21-4.

      We’ve written articles on this topic before and will happily continue to do so in order for those in Mormonism to see the problems within their own doctrine and allow the Lord to speak to them through this.  There is absolutely nothing in the Bible suggesting we are a certain color because of some supposed past behavior.

    In addition, the Bible clearly proclaims that we were first created in the womb, not spiritually created first; 1 Cor. 15:46; “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.”  Also see Jer. 1:5 which say God formed us in the belly.

      Why do the doctrines of Mormonism vary?

      If you’re a member of the LDS Church have you ever wondered why the writings of the Church haven’t changed in regards to this kind of thing?  If the doctrines of God change, shouldn’t your published lesson books change as well to ensure that no one gets confused?  And why did God change his mind anyway?

 One more thing…if those who are dark sinned in the pre-existence, why was Jesus dark here on earth?  He’s from the Middle East!

 LANGUAGE OF THE JEWS?

      There are many complex problems within the books of Ether and Mormon.  First in the writings of the prophet Mormon, we see that God’s chosen people have changed their native tongue. By the time they got on a ship to sail for the Americas, they are speaking and writing in a language not spoken by anyone else on earth. They’ve called it “reformed Egyptian”.

     If that wasn’t bad enough, when they begin to write their story down, the plates aren’t big enough to write out all the things God wanted them to write.

     Then we move on to the next book, Ether, and it tells the readers that he is writing a synopsis of what it was like at the tower of Babel.  Here is when God destroyed the tower and confounded everyone’s language, forcing people to scatter with their own languages.  Now the Bible says everyone’s language was changed.  Ether says that everyone’s language changed but Jared, Jared’s brother and just their friends.

     So in Mormon it says they (the Nephites), changed the language before they got to the Americas and they were speaking the language of their fathers; that being reformed Egyptian.

     Then in Ether we read how God answered their prayers and didn’t change a thing about their language.  Way back in Mosiah 1:6 it says they were speaking the language of their fathers (reformed Egyptian) when they left Jerusalem.

 So were all the Jews speaking reformed Egyptian in Israel?

Why did they alter their language after asking God not to confound or change it?

 Mormon 9:32-4 says; “And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.  And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.  But the Lord knoweth the things which we have written, and also that none other people knoweth our language….”

 Ether 1:34-7; “And the brother of Jared being a large and mighty man, and a man highly favored of the Lord, Jared, his brother, said unto him: Cry unto the Lord, that he will not confound us that we may not understand our words.  And it came to pass that the brother of Jared did cry unto the Lord, and the Lord had compassion upon Jared; therefore he did not confound the language of Jared; and Jared and his brother were not confounded. Then Jared said unto his brother: Cry again unto the Lord, and it may be that he will turn away his anger from them who are our friends, that he confound not their language… and the Lord had compassion upon their friends and their families also, that they were not confounded.”

 Gen. 11:7-9; “Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.”

 NEPHITES BELIEVE IN CHRIST BUT KEEP LAW OF MOSES

 Jacob 4:5; “Behold, they believed in Christ and worshiped the Father in his name, and also we worship the Father in his name. And for this intent we keep the law of Moses, it pointing our souls to him; and for this cause it is sanctified unto us for righteousness...”

 Hebrews 9:14-5; “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?  And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.”

 ALMA, ALMA, ALMA…  JESUS BORN IN JERUSALEM; MEN WASHED WITH BLOOD OF LAMB IN 82 BC; PEOPLE BAPTIZED, WOMAN SAVED BY JESUS, CHURCH ESTABLISHED IN 90 BC.

      Throughout the first 600 years of the story in the Book of Mormon there are countless examples of people and places named that qualify the Book of Mormon as a false prophecy.  The last 421 years have their own set of problems, but for now we’ll just be listing a few examples of the BC era for our proof, taken from the book of Alma.

 Alma 7:10; “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers, she being a virgin, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.”

 Matthew 2:1; “Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem.”

 Alma 13:11; “Therefore they were called after this holy order, and were sanctified, and their garments were washed white through the blood of the Lamb.”

 Alma 19:29, 35; “And it came to pass that she went and took the queen by the hand, that perhaps she might raise her from the ground; and as soon as she touched her hand she arose and stood upon her feet, and cried with a loud voice, saying: O blessed Jesus, who has saved me from an awful hell! O blessed God, have mercy on this people!”

 “And it came to pass that there were many that did believe in their words; and as many as did believe were baptized; and they became a righteous people, and they did establish a church among them.”

 HOW TO BECOME SONS AND DAUGHTERS UNTO GOD

 Moroni 7:48; “Wherefore, my beloved brethren, pray unto the Father with all the energy of heart, that ye may be filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son, Jesus Christ; that ye may become the sons of God; that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is; that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure. Amen.”

 D&C 11:30; “But verily, verily, I say unto you, that as many as receive me, to them will I give power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on my name. Amen.”

 Moses 3:5, 7; “…For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth… And I, the Lord God, had created all the children of men; and not yet a man to till the ground; for in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth….”

 “And I, the Lord God, formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul, the first flesh upon the earth, the first man also; nevertheless, all things were before created; but spiritually were they created and made according to my word.”

      The last set of LDS “scripture” can be confusing to those who aren’t acquainted with Mormonism.  The passage from Moses is located in the Pearl of Great Price and refers to the period of time the Mormons know as the “pre-existence”.  They believe that all mankind was spiritually begotten by God (Heavenly Father) through a sexual union with a “Heavenly Mother”.  When the time came for God to create mankind, He breathed “life” into Adam to live here on earth.  Thus, man’s spirit is waiting for an earthly “tabernacle” to reside in so they can earn their way to godhood themselves.

     Ask the Mormon how many times they really need to be born to be a son of God.  Nicodemus asked Jesus in the gospel of John how many times he needed to be born and Jesus told him that he had to be born of the spirit.  Mormons already did this in the pre-existence according to the book of Moses.

 WHERE WERE MY SINS PAID FOR?

 1 Nephi 11:33 says; “And I, Nephi, saw that he was lifted up upon the cross and slain for the sins of the world.

 D&C 19:18-9; “Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—Nevertheless, glory be to the Father, and I partook and finished my preparations unto the children of men.”

 Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 542; “Modern LDS leaders have emphasized that Jesus’ most challenging experience came in Gethsemane. Speaking in a general conference of the Church in 1982, Marion G. Romney, a member of the First Presidency, observed that Jesus suffered “the pains of all men, which he did, principally, in Gethsemane, the scene of his great agony” (Ensign 12 [May 1982]:6). Church President Ezra Taft Benson wrote that “it was in Gethsemane that Jesus took on Himself the sins of the world….”

 1 Corinthians 1:18-19; “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

 BIBLE IS ETERNAL, BUT THEN AGAIN…

 2 Nephi 9:16 says; “And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word, which cannot pass away, that they who are righteous shall be righteous still, and they who are filthy shall be filthy still; wherefore, they who are filthy are the devil and his angels; and they shall go away into everlasting fire, prepared for them; and their torment is as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever and has no end.

 Articles of Faith, pg. 214; “The historical and other data upon which is based the current Christian faith as to the genuineness of the Biblical record are accepted as unreservedly by the Latter-day Saints as by the members of any sect; and in literalness of interpretation this Church probably excels.

 Doctrines of Salvation 3:191; “We are all aware that there are errors in the Bible due to faulty translations and ignorance on the part of translators; but the hand of the Lord has been over this volume of scripture nevertheless, and it is remarkable that it has come down to us in the excellent condition in which we find it. Guided by the Books of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and the Spirit of the Lord, it is not difficult for one to discern the errors in the Bible…”

 Isaiah 40:8 says; “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

 WHAT’S IN A NAME?

 2 Nephi 10:3; “Wherefore, as I said unto you, it must needs be expedient that Christ—for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name—should come among the Jews, among those who are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him—for thus it behooveth our God, and there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God.

 Matthew 1:20-1 says; “But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.  And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”

      While it may seem this isn’t all that important, let me expound a moment.  Whenever a member of the LDS Church refers to the Lord they only refer to Him as Christ, never by His given name of Jesus.  While that in itself isn’t necessarily a bad thing, His name is not Christ.  Christ is a Hebrew title for Messiah or anointed one.  It’s as if they’ve stripped Jesus of His personal identity by calling Him by His title only.

     For instance, my name is Michelle Grim.  Now if everyone referred to me by Mrs. Grim all the time, including my family, friends, and business associates, etc. it places a wall or barrier between them and me.  I’m Michelle to my husband, close friends, acquaintances and relatives.  Of course I’m mom to my children and finally I’m Mrs. Grim to those whom I interact with at the bank, grocery store, or the schools that my children attend.

     Our first name is what helps identify us and personalizes our relationships with other people.  When I hear the name Kirk, I think of my husband; if I hear the names Jacqui or Axi, I immediately think of my daughters.

     When the Mormons refer to any of the apostles in the Bible they refer to them by their first names, why not Jesus?  Could it be they do not want members of the Church to be on a personal basis with Jesus?

     Mormon Doctrine, pg. 392 says this about using the name “Jesus”;

 “Though it was a common name anciently, its use by the Lord God Omnipotent as his personal name has given it a sacred connotation for all succeeding generations. (Acts 2:36.) Accordingly its profane and repetitious use is not in keeping with the true spirit of reverence and worship.

 FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST ARE ONE GOD

 D&C 20:28 says; “Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.

 Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 548; “Yet God the Father is not one in substance with the Son or the Holy Spirit, but is a separate being. The Father existed prior to the Son and the Holy Ghost and is the source of their divinity. In classical terms, LDS theology is subordinationist; that is, it views the Son and the Holy Ghost as subordinate to and dependent upon God the Eternal Father. They are his offspring. Thus Joseph Smith referred to the Father as “God the first” to emphasize his priority in the Godhead (TPJS, p. 190). The Son and the Holy Spirit were “in the beginning, with God,” but the Father alone existed before the beginning of the universe as it is known.”

 Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:17; “It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

 Isaiah 9:6; For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

      These are just a handful of examples you can read in the doctrines of the Church and compare them with the true scripture; that being the Bible.  We pray the Mormon people will look for themselves and go to the Heavenly Father to ask Him if these things are true.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

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Interesting facts of 3-in-1 Part 1

3-in-1 Introductory page of the Book of Mormon says; “Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God”

  The LDS Church does not believe in the Trinity.  In the book Articles of Faith, pg, 40-1, it states; “Unity of the Godhead….this cannot rationally be construed to mean that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one in substance and in person, nor that the names represent the same individual under different aspects.”

 There are two more items of interest just in this one sentence on their introductory page.

 1-What is the meaning of eternal?

2-They only believe that Jesus has earned the right to become a god because of his good works here on earth.  This statement does not mean that Jesus is our God, just that he is a god.

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Jesus in the Book of Mormon and the LDS Church

      Mormon Jesus 2As is usually the case, I stumbled across something interesting in the Book of Mormon while looking for something else.  This time I was reminded of what the Nephites thought of Jesus and His skin color in 3 Nephi 19:30;

 “And when Jesus had spoken these words he came again unto his disciples; and behold they did pray steadfastly, without ceasing, unto him; and he did smile upon them again; and behold they were white, even as Jesus.

      How can this be you ask?  Yeah, well you might want to hold that thought so you can ask the same question about all the things they say about Jesus.  So this got me to thinking…is there a concise list of all the things Mormons are taught about Jesus?  I remember being a Mormon and being confused about the truth.  I wanted so badly to know Him, but didn’t know how or even where to look.  Each time I read my MIA or Relief Society manuals to compare them with the Bible I kept getting more and more confused.  I couldn’t keep the stories about Him straight and often wondered where the atonement took place and when.

     It wasn’t until I started investigating on my own years later did I find the truth.  I’m a visual learner and remember things better when they’re written down so I’m a fan of making lists.  Below is a small list of the teachings about Jesus according to the Mormon Church.

     And because the Church claims the Book of Mormon is the “fullness of the gospel”, we’re comparing what they say in the Book of Mormon to the teachings of other Church leaders.  We’re simply asking:

 Why aren’t all of their teachings found in the “fullness of the gospel”?

      If you’re LDS please know that we pray for you each and every day here at Life After Ministries.  It is our sincere desire that you know the truth about what the leaders have taught and most importantly that you would know the real Jesus of the Bible.  All of our information comes directly from Church authorized books and manuals.

With Love in Christ;

Michelle

1 Cor. 1:18  …

 Teachings about Jesus found in the Book of Mormon

 A Son of God – Alma 36:17

 Ascended multiple times into heaven – 3 Nephi 18:39

 Belief in Jesus saves you – Helaman 14:8

 Blood of Jesus is only way to salvation – Helaman 5:9

 Born in Jerusalem – Alma 7:10

 Cannot save you in your sins – Alma 11:34, 37

 Crucified for sins of the world – 1 Nephi 11:33

 Eternal Father – Alma 11:39

 Eternal God – Front Cover of BoM; 2 Nephi 26:12

 Father and the Son – Ether 3:14

 Father, Son and Holy Ghost is One God – Mormon 7:7

 God – 2 Nephi 26:12; Mosiah 13:34, Alma 11:39

 God above all – Mosiah 5:15

 Lamb of God – 1 Nephi 11:19

 Law fulfilled in him – 3 Nephi 15:5

 Lifted up on cross to draw people to him – 3 Nephi 27:14

 Lord and God – Moroni 8:8; 3 Nephi 19:18

 Name is Christ – 2 Nephi 10:3; Mosiah 5:9

 Named Jesus Christ – 2 Nephi 25:19

 One God – Alma 11:34

 Redeemer – Alma 11:40

 Savior of the world – 1 Nephi 13:40

 Son of the Eternal Father – 1 Nephi 11:21 (note: in the 1830 BoM edition it said Jesus was the Eternal Father in this verse.  Joseph Smith changed this and other verses in 1837. – Power of the Word: Saving Doctrines from the Book of Mormon, pg. 11 – Robert Millet)

 Son of God – 1 Nephi 11:24

 Additional teachings about Jesus

 A god – Doctrines of Salvation 1:32

 A god named Christ – Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pg. 6

 Alpha, Omega, Jehovah, I AM – Jesus the Christ, pg. 34

 Atonement of Jesus, Crucified for polygamy – Journal of Discourses 1:346, Jedidiah Grant

 Atonement of Jesus, Crucified for sins – Doctrines of Salvation 1:132

 Atonement of Jesus, Crucified for sins of the world – D&C 21:9, 46:13, 53:2, 54:1; 76:41

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – D&C 19:18

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – MD, pg. 85

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – EM, pg. 542

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – Learning for the Eternities, pgs. 104-105

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – Selected Writings of Daniel H. Ludlow: Gospel Scholars Series, pg. 244

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – Conference Report, April 1961, pg. 119

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – Seventies Course in Theology 4:113-114

 Atonement of Jesus in Garden of Gethsemane – Sermons and Writings of Bruce McConkie, pg. 208

 Became master over elements – Sermons and Missionary Services of Melvin Ballard: pg. 177

 Became the Father – Gospel through the Ages, pg. 24

 Begotten by man – Doctrines of Salvation 1:18

 Begotten by the father of his spirit – Mormon Doctrine of Deity, pg. 264

 Birth brought darkness to earth – Answers to Gospel Questions 3:45

 Blood of Jesus is perfect sacrifice – D&C 76:69

 Blood of Jesus not enough for murderers – D&C 42:79

 Blood of Jesus not enough – Doctrines of Salvation 1:133

 Born the same race as God – Doctrines of Salvation, pg. 103

 Born to a virgin – Mormon Doctrine, pg. 822

 Bows to Adam – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 157

 Brother of Lucifer – Mormon Doctrine, pgs. 192-195

 Brother of Lucifer – Jesus the Christ, pg. 8

 Brother of Lucifer – Gospel through the Ages, pg. 15

 Chosen to be savior – Jesus the Christ, pg. 30

 Christian Jesus is ½ horse and ½ ass – Journal of Discourses 4:217, Brigham Young

 Conception result of natural act – Journal of Discourses 8:115-116, Brigham Young

 Conception through sexual intercourse – Teachings of Harold B. Lee, pg. 14

 Contention with Lucifer – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 357

 Created by God – Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 548

 Death of Jesus was death of a god – Sermons and Missionary Services of Melvin Ballard, pg. 226

 Died for all sins – D&C 132:27

 Doesn’t need man’s adoration – Best of Lowell L. Bennion: Selected Writings 1928-1988, pg. 79

 Earned godhood status – Gospel through the Ages, pgs. 20-21

 Elder brother – Doctrines of Salvation 1:15

 Emmanuel – Mormon Doctrine, pg. 376

 Father and Son – Gospel through the Ages, pg. 23

 Firstborn spirit child of God – Encyclopedia of Mormonism, pg. 724

 Forgot everything coming to earth – Doctrines of Salvation 1:32

 God – Building Faith with the Book of Mormon, pg. 127, Reid Bankhead, Glenn Pearson

 God – D&C 1:20, 10:70; 17:9; 18:33, 47; 19:1, 4; 20:28; 27:1; 29:1; 34:1; 35:1, 2; 36:1, 8; 38:1; 39:1; 51:1; 53:1, 2; 54:1; 62:1; 63:59, 60; 66:13; 76:1, 81:7; 93:3

 God of this earth – This is the Truth, pg. 46, Mary Pratt Parrish

 Grew into Messiah – Even As I Am, pg. 69, Neal Maxwell

 Had to qualify to become redeemer – Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pg, 8

 Held power of priesthood with Adam – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 158

 Jehovah – Jesus the Christ, pg. 135

 Literal son of God – Gospel Standards, pg. 4, Heber J. Grant;

 Literal son of God – EM, pg. 724, 729

 Man’s spiritual brother – Gospel through the Ages, pg. 21

 Married – Journal of Discourses 4:259-260, Orson Hyde

 Married in Cana – Journal of Discourses 2:82-83, Orson Hyde

 Mediator of the New Covenant – D&C 76:69

 Member of the council of gods – Behold the Lamb of God, pg. 17, J. Reuben Clark

 Must obey commandments – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 308

 Name of Jesus Christ only for salvation – D&C 18:23

 Not begotten by the Holy Spirit – Journal of Discourses 1:51, Brigham Young

 Not the only savior – Joseph Smith the Prophet, pg. 13

 Offspring of God – Gospel Doctrine, pg. 69

 Offspring of polygamist David – Journal of Discourses 13:42, George A. Smith

 One of many redeemers – Journal of Discourses 14:71, Brigham Young

 Path of Jesus to godhood – God, Man, and the Universe, pgs. 193-194, Hyrum Andrus

 Perfect – Gospel through the Ages, pg. 19

 Polygamist – Journal of Discourses 2:210, Brigham Young

 Polygamist – Journal of Discourses 13:309, Brigham Young

 Polygamist – The Seer, pg. 172, Orson Pratt

 Progressed into godhood – Key to the Science of Theology, pgs. 39-40, Parley Pratt

 Rejected by all men – Mormonism and Early Christianity, pgs. 169-170, Hugh Nibley

 Related to Joseph Smith – Jesus was Married, pg. 94, Ogden Kraut

 Return of Jesus in 56 yrs (it was Jan. 1836 at time of prophecy) – History of the Church 2:180

 Saved being and prototype for faith – Lectures on Faith, pgs. 97-98, Larry Dahl, Charles Tate, Jr.

 Separate god from Father God – Documentary History of the Church 6:474, Joseph Smith, Jr., June 16, 1844

 Shed his blood because Adam had no blood – Answers to Gospel Questions 3:207

 Sired by God – Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, pg. 7

 Sired by God – Come unto Christ, pg. 4, Ezra Taft Benson

 Son of God who also had a father – Doctrines of Salvation 1:11

 Strange Powers within – Contributor, vol. 10 (November 1888-October 1889): p. 368-369

 The Great White God – Pamphlets: Latter-day Tracts, pg. 1, Mark E. Petersen

 Volunteered for atonement – Answers to Gospel Questions 1:32

 Wasn’t perfect – Times and Seasons, 20 January 1846

 Wasn’t perfect, wasn’t prepared – I Know that My Redeemer Lives: Latter-day Prophets Testify of the Savior, pg. 35, John Taylor

 Withdrew his spirit from the earth – Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 15

 Worked out his own salvation – Doctrines of Salvation 1:32

 Worships another god – Nature of God in the Book of Mormon, 1995 FARMS, Robert Millet

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It’s All Because of Joseph

     Please forgive my sarcasm in the title of this article. It comes from a video I watched on YouTube of a BYU professor who talks about, amongst other things, her testimony of Joseph Smith. Take a look at the video, and I’ll see you back here in a few minutes:

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mormon_missionaries We receive countless e-mails and phone calls on a daily basis asking us how to witness to a friend or loved one in Mormonism.  While I’ve numbered the tips below for witnessing it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re in order of importance.

With that said, it’s important to remember everything listed will be a totally new experience to the Mormon.  When I converted to Christianity I was a few months shy of my thirtieth birthday, and quickly learned every single thing I had known up until that time, was a lie.

Our new and updated version of ‘How to Witness to a Mormon’ is a result of PowerPoint presentations given at churches. The majority of it comes from copious note taking while listening to, and watching dozens of audio, and video tapes Dr. Walter Martin (1928-1969) produced during his long, and industrious career.

To say those working in the counter-cult movement owes a debt of gratitude for his work, would not be an overstatement whatsoever. Many have heralded him as the father of the counter-cult movement.

One comment he made always gives me pause, and has reminded me on a number of occasions to be dilegent in witnessing to those who don’t know our Lord.

‘The cults are the unpaid bills of the body of Christ.’

We’re listing the same first 12 points from our presentations, and 20 helps for friends and loved ones, thereafter.

POINT #1                                               POINT #2          

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POINT #3                                                    POINT #4

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POINT #5                                                  POINT #6

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POINT #7                                              POINT #8

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POINT #9                                              POINT #10      

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POINT #11                                            POINT#12

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20 Helps for Mormon Friends and Loved Ones

20-helps 1 – Word studies.  See if your Mormon friends would be interested in doing a word study with you!  These are great for the new ex-Mormon as well as for the Mormon.  Just pick your favorite word/topic from the Bible, find all the places in the Bible where this word is used to get the full context and share with each other what you’ve learned.  Make sure you both use a reputable concordance and dictionary.  Also let them know their opinion counts, that what they have to say matters to you personally.  You don’t have to agree with their opinion, but their spiritual condition obviously matters to you or you wouldn’t bother trying.

2 – Go out of your way to share with the Mormon what Jesus did for you today.  Use scripture to back it up.  Show them how you applied that scripture to make it a personal message from the Lord to you.  Teach them how to read the Bible as a personal letter from God to them personally.

3 – Invite them to non-threatening events at your church, i.e. women’s teas, men’s breakfasts, dessert theaters, etc. Let them be around Christian ‘things’ as much as possible, i.e., the cross, Bibles that usually lay around churches, actual people inside the church building in the daytime if possible during the week, etc.

4 – Listen to Christian music while they’re around you so they can hear the words.  Most Christian hymns and songs contain scripture.  Isaiah 55:11 says His words will not return void.

5 – Have your Bible open to various passages of scripture when they visit.

6 – Make sure you’re the one that does the praying if the occasion arises and grab their hand to hold it during prayer.  Never fold your arms while praying with a Mormon and don’t allow them to do the praying.  They are not praying to the true God of the Bible, therefore this isn’t something you’d want to submit yourself to either.

7 – Ask them various questions about their church.  As you know this may cause animosity at some point but it does give them something to think about.  Ask why they have to store food when Jesus told us in the Bible not to worry about tomorrow when it has troubles of its own – Matthew 6:34.  Who is more credible to them personally – Joseph and the living prophet or Jesus Christ; then ask why.

8 – Ask what their favorite verse is in the Book of Mormon and why.  Tell them you’ve learned the major tenets of Mormonism are not in the Book of Mormon and ask if this is true.  If they say they are, prod them by asking what is in it and where specifically the teaching is located.

9 – Ask why they don’t have crosses in their homes or wear them in a necklace.  Ask how they feel about the cross and share with them what the cross means to you personally.

10 – Ask them why God would need Satan to fulfill his plan for mankind. 2 Nephi 2:11; “For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad…”  This is actually a basic tenet within Witchcraft.  Witchcraft believes there must be an equal balance in all things; good for bad and bad for good.  In other words, yin yang.

11 – Ask them why the book of Jacob says not to practice polygamy but the Doctrine and Covenants says it means exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom (their highest kingdom of heaven).  Jacob 2:24; D&C 132:4-7.

12 – Ask for their opinion about D&C 1:37 which says the commandments in that book are true and everything will be fulfilled.  Polygamy was outlawed in 1890.

13 – Ask how dead people can repent.  How can dead people pay a penalty for their transgressions?  Why did Jesus say “It is finished” in John 19:30?  How can dead people work for their salvation?

D&C 138:58-59; “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

 14 – Ask what they think of the following information;

2 Nephi 9:9 describes Satan.  “…yea, to that being that who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself into an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness”.

1976 Introductory page of Doctrine & Covenants describes Moroni.  “This took place in the early spring of 1820.  In September 1823, and at later times, Joseph Smith received visitations from Moroni, an angel of light, who revealed the resting place of the ancient record from which the Book of Mormon was afterward translated”.

Joseph Smith’s Testimony 1:47; “After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed …” (A note to the Christian:  the heavenly messenger Smith is talking about is Moroni, an angel of light.)

Matthew 26:31-4; “Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night…Peter answered and said unto him, Though all men shall be offended because of thee, yet will I never be offended.  Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.” – Also see 2 Cor. 11:14.

15 – Ask the Mormon why they have to be baptized at the age of 8 for the remission of sins if they are considered to be without sin until then.  Moroni 8:9-13.

D&C 68:27; “And their children shall be baptized for the remission of their sins when eight years old, and receive the laying on of the hands.”

16 – Ask why the Book of Mormon says the earth was covered in darkness for 3 days at the crucifixion of Jesus.  1 Nephi 19:10; Helaman 14:20, 27; 3 Nephi 8:3.  Compare with Matthew 27:45.  Mormons will tell you earthquakes, volcanoes, etc, lasted for 3 hours and then the darkness lasted for 3 days.  The Bible says no such thing.

17 – Ask your Mormon loved one if they fully accept the Bible.  The answer to this question varies from person to person.  If there is some hesitation to full acceptance ask why and then offer help to investigate reliable sources outside the LDS Church to find out which scriptures have not been translated correctly.

18 – Ask the Mormon: “if you died tonight would you go to heaven?”  Most if not all will say they don’t know.  Share your favorite passages from the Bible on how you have assurance of salvation.

19 – Have you told your Mormon friend who Jesus is from the Bible?  Have you told them He is God incarnate & also prophesied about in the Old Testament 333 times?  Look for other interesting facts about the Bible to share.  These types of things are typically non-threatening.  If they say he is the god of this world show them 2 Cor. 4:4.

20 –Do a simple Bible study with them just on Isaiah chapter 53.  There are 48 prophecies of Jesus in that one chapter alone and each of them has been fulfilled!  LDS doctrines teach some of these prophecies are about Joseph Smith.

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Holy Week:  Do you know what it means?

      I can’t believe Easter is just around the corner!  Spring is my favorite time of year for a few reasons; but ultimately it reminds me of the new life I have in Christ.

     Because of what Jesus has done for all of us, we can start anew.  Just as spring is a new beginning to the world around us, we can have a new beginning in our lives when we ask Jesus into our hearts.  Last year when I was newly out of the LDS Church I didn’t give much thought to Holy Week. As a Mormon, my family celebrated on Easter Sunday, and that was it.  There was no special Sunday service at church and no real acknowledgment of why this is such a special time of year.  As part of my growth as a new Christian and walk with the Lord, I wanted to take the time to learn about Holy Week and share what I learn with all of you.

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Great Apostasy 

 Ten Questions about the Great Apostasy

           In the 1830’s Americans were in the infancy stages of the public education system; the majority of Americans were part of the agricultural economy; four times as many immigrants came into the country in that decade than the previous one; Louisa May Alcott, Emily Dickinson and Mark Twain were all born in the early to mid 1830’s, the Alamo took place and TX became a state (1836); and the song Jesus Loves Me was written in 1837 by Anna Warner.

Wittenburg, Germany where Martin Luther attended church - copy of the 95 Point Thesis.

Wittenburg, Germany where Martin Luther attended church – copy of the 95 Point Thesis.

    All of these events left an indelible mark upon America’s and the world’s history.  In addition to these significant events taking place another person who added to the course of historical events would write a religious book some referred to as the “Golden Bible”.  Eighteen-thirty is the year J. Smith published the first edition of the Book of Mormon, and formed the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  According to Smith a handful of major events had taken place in the previous years that caused him to act upon the revelation he said God had given to him.

     The most incredible “revelation” came from Smith that we read about in the Pearl of Great Price under Joseph Smith Testimony.  In it he claims that he went to a grove in the forest to ask God which church he should join and God appeared in the flesh with his Son Jesus Christ.  They went on to tell him not to join any of the churches because they were all wrong and had become the “Whore of Babylon”.

     Just think; Jesus’ spilled blood amounts to the worth of a whore.  Isn’t that what God told Jeremiah the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah had become?  In the third chapter of Jeremiah, God has the Weeping Prophet proclaim to the people that because they have chosen earthly creation and people their gods that He is about to forsake them if they don’t repent and return.  How arrogant of Smith to call the bride of Christ a whore!  Can you just imagine God providing the people with the wedding feast and calling His Son’s bride a whore?

     The Lord told us through the apostle Paul that the Bible is God-breathed; 2 Tim. 3:16 says that it’s also good for reproof, doctrine and instruction unto righteousness.  And God also tells us in Deut. 18:20-22 that if anyone comes along and says something that is shown to be false then you are to disregard that prophet and not be afraid because he is not speaking for God.

     The claims that Smith made then and the LDS Church has since made for 177 years are remarkable when you think about it.  There wasn’t anyone – no one on earth at all – who was speaking or teaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ and hadn’t been for almost 2,000 years?!  There are approximately 6 billion people on the face of the earth today.  The Church claims to have 12 million members.  Out of 6 billion how can it be that there are only 12 million who are going to heaven? (The fact that their numbers are wrong is for another time.)

 1 – What type of god would sacrifice his son to DIE if it were all for naught?

 2 – What type of god would leave his believers without hope or help when the last messenger (meaning the apostles) died?

 3 – Wouldn’t this mean that the believers were the ones responsible for their own salvation and not him?

 4 – Why did the apostles waste their time going on missions if no one believed after they died?

 5 – What happened to what Jesus told the disciples in John 14:23 that He would send the Comforter to abode with them?  The word abode in the Greek is “mone” and it means; “to tarry, residence, a staying, and a mansion”.

 6 – Did Jesus lie?

 7 – Whatever happened to what Jesus told Peter and His other disciples in Matthew 16:18;

 “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”?

      Walter Martin once said; “The cults are the unpaid bill of the body of Christ”.  I’m inclined to say that I must agree.  We need to stand up and refute the obviously blatant lies and discrepancies of the evil one.  To have blinded the minds of so many is not only remarkable but shocking.

     The Church also has 13 tenets of their belief system which they call the “Thirteen Articles of Faith”.  The 8th Article of Faith says the Bible is only correct as far as it is translated correctly.  “We believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God…”

     Joseph Smith said that the Book of Mormon is the most correct book ever written.  Yet, to date the BoM has had more than 4,000 grammatical changes made to its text.

In HC 4:461 it quotes Smith as saying:

 “ I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.”

    8 – The Lord promises us in Isaiah 40:8 that His word endures forever.  So my next question is; did God lie?

 9 – Why is the Bible wrong too?

 10 – Why read the Bible if the majority of it cannot be trusted?

      In the coming weeks we’ll be looking at several core doctrinal teachings of the LDS Church so be sure to tune in and listen for tips on how to witness to and pray for the Mormon people.

 With Love in Christ;

 Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18  …

Jesus’ Promises Kept

I’m here today to let everyone know how intoxicated I am by being around those in the body of Christ.  I admit that I look at the church of Jesus Christ through rose colored glasses.  And I’ll be the first to admit that when I think of the Christian people it’s easy for me to overlook the flaws each denomination and individual person really has.  I am more inclined to treat them in the same manner a parent has for a favorite child.

Each time I go out to speak or answer the ministry line and e-mails, the above scenario and Jesus’ promises in the Bible are the things I think of every day of my life.  Even after fifteen years of salvation (it’s 2008), I look out at the audiences and I’m still in awe by Jesus’ power and faithfulness!

Matthew 16:18; “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

Ironically enough, the verse above is what I used in my prayers as a Mormon child growing up in Utah.  I prayed Heavenly Father would keep the Christians around long enough for me to see them after I left Utah.  I literally pictured myself amongst the throngs of people who walked alongside of Him as the dust of Jerusalem surely must have touched His holy feet.

While we’re not living in the days of long robes and donkey rides in Western societies today, the everyday circumstances of life have stayed pretty much the same.  We are beset with troubles we’ve brought on ourselves or caused by those around us.  We are more inclined to be taken into a world of abyss and doom with our natural reaction to the onslaught of evil’s ugliness.  Instead of seeking the Lord’s guidance who reminds us to be patient with verses like Habakkuk 2:3, we immediately think of our own indignation.

“For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.”

In the New American Standard the last part reads ….For it will certainly come, it will not delay.

For the Mormon, being reminded of God’s infinite wisdom through the Bible just isn’t an option.  They are taught from birth to mistrust it while not being given a reason why.  It’s no wonder confusion abounds!  I’ve not met a member of the LDS Church yet who knows how to read the Bible as personal message to them from God.  This is one of the biggest jobs we have here at LAM.

Speaking of which, it’s been an incredibly busy time for us witnessing God’s mighty work as He calls those in darkness to come forth into Light.  This obviously confirms the promise He gave not only to the disciples He spoke to in Caesarea Philippi, but to those of us who walk this earth today!

What is so disheartening for us who know the Lord and love the Mormons is to see the lack of a personal relationship between the Mormon and Jesus.  This is a direct result of promulgating the lies when the LDS Church says that the Bible has not been translated correctly.

Instead of the Mormon opening his Bible to glean something for himself that day from God, the story has become a detached history lesson not holding much truth.  It reminds me of what was going on in the schools in Germany years ago.

When Kirk and I lived in Germany from ’85 to ’88 school history books left out all incriminating evidence of what took place some 40 years earlier.  It wasn’t until the past ten or so years that the history books from which the children glean information about their country even addressed the fact that their fellow German people were partially responsible for the deaths of six million Jews just a few generations previously.

No mention of why the Jewish population went from hundreds of thousands in Germany down to a measly thirty thousand.  In fact when I was a tour guide there, it was illegal for me to mention the words “Nazi”, “Holocaust”, “Swastika” and “Hitler” in public while taking groups of tourists down on the economy.

There are a myriad of ways to pray for the Mormon people and one of the specific things I am always praying for is that they would begin to ask themselves simple questions and find the answers for those questions.

1 – Who exactly, mistranslated the Bible?

2 – What parts of the Bible are mistranslated?

3 – Are there any historical documents that could shed light on where the trusted translations are located?

4 – Why would Heavenly Father desert His creation and what purpose did that serve us and Him?

5 – Why do millions of people continue to use the Bible if it’s not translated correctly?

6 – Does anyone today speak the same languages the people from biblical days spoke?

7 – When did the Bible become corrupt?

8 – Where did the reputable translations go?

9 – How did everyone go the way of corruption when Jesus promised in the Bible that the gates of hell wouldn’t prevail?

10 – Can or should I trust this type of god?

You see, if you can trust the Bible enough to call Him Christ, then why don’t you trust the rest of it?  Why not call your god by some other name?

I was on the phone the other day with Jean, a close friend of mine, who shared with me an experience she had some fifty years ago.  Jean worked with a woman all those decades ago who claimed to be a Christian and after working with this woman for several months it became painfully obvious to Jean that her co-worker’s walk with the Lord was probably non-existent.

My friend told me that after months of struggling to get along with this woman she turned to an old friend to ask for insight.  The friend asked her if Jean believed in the miracles and promises of God.  When she replied yes, her friend told her to open the Bible to John 11:40.

“Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?”

That was all my friend needed to say.  We exchanged quick good-byes and promised each other a lunch date in person when we both got back into town after our busy schedules for the rest of the month.

I got to thinking about the advice she imparted to me for the situation I’d been struggling with and the Lord gently reminded me this verse wasn’t meant for just that particular situation some two thousand years ago or even fifty years ago!  This verse is meant for you and me today as well as tomorrow and for those we’ve never heard of far into the future.  The only viable way that could be is if God is who He claims to be in the Bible.

If you believe God could raise the dead two thousand years ago, then why can’t you believe He could keep His promises to you today?

(Picture on the left is a church in Bavaria that’s been in use since 1050 AD.  People still go there to worship Jesus just as they did almost 1,000 years ago.  We took the picture while on holiday for Christmas 2010 and I just couldn’t stop thinking of how trustworthy our Lord is for keeping His promises to us.)

T.R. McNeal’s contribution to Holman Bible Dictionary says this about miracles;

“Contemporary philosophical and theological arguments over the possibility and definition of miracle reflect the altered worldview of the last several centuries—from a theistic to a nontheistic concept of the universe. The perceived tension between the natural and the miraculous is a by-product of a naturalism that is intent on squeezing out the supernatural realm of reality.

The people of the bible did not face this problem. The biblical perspective on the universe is that it is created, sustained, and providentially governed by God.”

While I realize Jesus’ promise of keeping His church on the face of the earth without interruption may not seem like a miracle to the Mormon that’s reading this article, I am convinced it qualifies.  Think about it…

Everyone who walks this earth has the same problem.  Everyone’s main sin in life is pride.  Pride is always the culprit when we believe we can work our way out of any situation without help.  For you and me, that situation is the sinful nature we were born with.

Believing you can work your way to heaven is discarding God’s grace of salvation.  I haven’t met a Christian yet who doesn’t believe it’s a miracle that they’re saved.  Rejection of God’s grace is to reject Jesus.

Just this past weekend I spoke to a group of dedicated believers at a church here in the Puget Sound area.  Every single person in that congregation humbly acknowledged the saving grace of God in their lives.  In turn while looking out at that congregation I was speaking to, I was a witness to Jesus’ kept promises.

Check out what the author of Hebrews had to say about the glory of God in 2:10;

“For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings.”

For the Mormon, the question of whether miracles and promises could be the same thing has to become an action instead of a simple item of reflection for the rest of us.  Earlier this week I received and e-mail from a life-long member of the LDS Church who shared his story with me of how he got up and physically left one of the meetings he was attending at a General Conference.

While the prophet of the Church spent his time telling people there was no such thing as a fundamentalist Mormon, God opened the eyes and heart of this person and he became unable to do anything but get up and walk out.  He started wondering what the role was of anyone calling themselves Mormon and the role of God.  This man knew in his heart that he loved the Lord as much as he loved the church, but both couldn’t be right.

As we demonstrated in the scriptures above, the glory of God isn’t “intelligence” as millions of Mormons believe.  The glory of God is the redeeming work He performs through many venues; salvation of men, raising the dead, healing the sick, holding His church together, His indwelling presence in each of His children, the virgin birth and His most glorious work, raising Jesus from the dead.  As you can imagine the list is endless!

Instead of believing that you get to heaven because of God’s infinite mercy upon you, Mormons believe they can obtain the same intelligence God holds and in turn, salvation.  We experience God’s glory by realizing and submitting ourselves to the proper place of humility.  Mark 9:22-23 explains it this way;

“And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us. 23Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.”

If you’re a Mormon take a day to wonder why the Christians are still here like Jesus said they would be.  Also – why would Jesus lie to the disciples if there was a true full blown apostasy?

With Love in Christ; Michelle

1 Cor. 1:18

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The Ensign and Journal of Discourses

     The LDS Church’s claim to fame is that they are “the only true church” of Jesus Christ on the earth. Members learn their church leaders are “called” by God and upon receiving a calling to serve in the Church you are told that it’s God who is calling you to this position, not the person behind the desk. They say they have a living prophet and this person is the “mouthpiece” of the Lord. He is said to receive modern day revelation from God for the members of the Church.

The Journal of Discourses is a compilation of various General Conference sermons that were given from November 1, 1853 to May 17 1886 by past and prominent leaders of the LDS Church. The sermons from these men used to be considered scripture. At the time, the Saints believed what these people said and believed these men were speaking for God. Nowadays they are not printed by the Church anymore and when members ask about them they are told the Church doesn’t recognize them as scripture or doctrine. They are considered as their past leader’s opinion, yet there are many revelations in the Journals that are supposed to be eternal and/or to always be practiced.

     Here is what Apostle Albert Carrington said about the Journals;

We take great pleasure in presenting to the Saints and the world … the JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, which they will find contains rich treasures of information concerning the glorious principles of Eternal Life, as revealed through God’s anointed servants in these last days. All who read the discourses contained in this volume are earnestly recommended to adapt them to their lives by practice, and we can confidently assure them that, in doing so, they are laying up a store of knowledge that will save and exalt them in the Celestial kingdom.”

     In the Journals you’ll find various quotes on such subjects as polygamy, whites mixing with blacks, blood atonement, and blacks holding the priesthood. (In the case of blacks holding the priesthood, it wasn’t supposed to happen until the millennium.)

Below are a few quotes from Brigham Young on the Church’s view on the above subjects:

White’s Mixing Their Seed with Blacks: 

“Shall I tell you the law of God to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so.” Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Volume 10. 

Polygamy:

“The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy. Others attain unto a glory and may even be permitted to come into the presence of the Father and the Son; but they cannot reign as kings in glory, because they had blessing offered unto them, and they refused to accept them. “Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Volume 11.

Blacks and the Priesthood: 

“When all the other children of Adam have had the privilege of receiving the Priesthood, and of coming into the kingdom of God, and of being redeemed from the four quarters of the earth, and have received their resurrection from the dead, then it will be time enough to remove the curse from Cain and his posterity. He deprived his brother of the privilege of pursuing his journey through life, and of extending his kingdom by multiplying upon the earth; and because he did this, he is the last to share the joys of the kingdom of God.” Brigham Young, Volume 10.

     These sermons were coming from a prophet, someone speaking for the Lord. Since these things happened before they were supposed to or were done way with, does that make Brigham Young and other LDS prophets, false prophets? The Bible has a very clear test for false or true prophets when someone declares themselves to be a prophet.

In Deuteronomy 18:20-22 we learn that if a person calling themselves a prophet is wrong one time, they are a false prophet and false prophets do exist. Why would Jesus and the apostles warn us about them if they didn’t? (Matthew 24:11)  Paul also warned the people about false prophets and teachers in 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. Here he said these people may appear to be apostles of Jesus, but even Satan can appear good and as an angel of light.

It seems the Church can’t make its mind up about whether God changes or not. Some LDS scripture will say God never changes, that he is the same always, while others say that God does change his mind on doctrinal things.  As a Christian I know God never, ever changes. He knows all; he won’t implement a doctrine then change his mind because he knows how it’s going to work out from the beginning.

Today the LDS Church has a monthly publication called the Ensign which carries various articles about different teachings or insights pertaining to the LDS religion.  The first publication was in January 1971 along with two other LDS magazines, the Friend and New Era. The issues for May and November are the General Conference issues which contain the talks given by a few leaders in the Church at General Conference in April and October.

Much like the Journal of Discourses used to be considered scripture, these issues are also considered scripture. I was taught I should keep the current Conference Ensign right by my scriptures. I was to study it and treat it as such; it was “scripture” until the new one came out. Then I was to replace the old issue with the new one.

Like the Conference issue of the Ensign, the sermons in the Journal of Discourses were and are given in front of the LDS people. They aren’t given in the barber shop or across a backyard fence, so they can’t be just opinions. Joseph Smith once said “A prophet of God is only a prophet when acting as such” (Joseph Smith History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, by B.H Roberts) When a prophet addresses the followers of the Church in conference or in a sermon they are “acting as such”.

In a popular LDS Hymn called “We Thank Thee, O God for a Prophet”, the end of the first line reads:

“We thank thee for every blessing, bestowed by thy bounteous hand.

We feel it a pleasure to serve thee, and love to obey thy commands.”

     These men were “acting as such” when they stood up to speak to the members of the Church. What they say when speaking to the members is doctrine like the hymn says; they want to obey what the prophet commands. They want to listen to and obey what these men say because they trust that they won’t lead the LDS people astray.

If the LDS Church is “the only true church” on the face of the earth, how is it their doctrines keep changing? I would think “the only true church” would have the same doctrines and beliefs from the beginning to the present.  What Brigham Young taught about polygamy and whites mixing with blacks is no longer considered doctrine. I would think an all knowing, all powerful LDS god would know the hurt and damage those “doctrines” would cause his children and he would swiftly correct any so called prophet when he spoke those things.

I wonder how long before all the things that the LDS believe now will soon be “not doctrinal”. Will they not be allowed to refer to books or past Conference talks by leaders such as Gordon B. Hinckley, Neal Maxwell or Thomas S. Monson?  Will what they taught be considered “just their opinions” and the Church doesn’t recognize that has doctrine?

I am very grateful to my Father in Heaven. I am glad that I have the Bible, God’s word as “A lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path” Psalm 119:105. God’s word is his will for all of us. I pray the LDS people will realize this and come to the Jesus of the Bible.

I was listening to a pastor on the radio today who said, “Satan likes to use the Christian vocabulary, but not the Christian dictionary”.

In Romans 16:17-18, Paul is telling us that sure, someone may come to you with a wonderful message and it may sound really good, but if it is contrary to what I taught you then stay away from it. You may have someone come to you using all the right words, all the “Christian vocabulary”, but they don’t have the correct desire behind it. They want to lead away from the Jesus of the Bible, to another Jesus and another gospel.

In Galatians 1: 8-9, Paul continues to warn us about false prophets and teachers. He says if an angel of light, or even if I preach a different gospel than what I have taught you from the beginning, don’t listen to it.

As you can see Jesus and his apostles were very concerned that others would come along and deceive his followers. Jesus loves us so much. He doesn’t want any of us to latch on to other gospels that will take us away from him. He wants all of us to be with him in Heaven.

My hope is that the LDS people would truly study their Bibles and see what their Church teaches versus what Jesus taught.

Melissa Grimes

Melissa@lifeafter.org

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8th Article of Faith

 “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

 Has there ever been a topic in life that affects you so deeply that it makes it difficult for you to speak or to even write about?  If there is, then you’ll be able to relate to the pain in my heart that I have over the 8th Article of Faith.  It is rare that I am left speechless as the people in my life can certainly attest to; but this is one of those rare occurrences where this has happened.

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