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August 25 – Isaiah 45:22; “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.”

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God has made it so very simple…

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“Joseph Smith’s divine calling as the restorer of plain and precious truths of the gospel of Jesus Christ was for the benefit of all the children of God, past, present, and future. Yet his role as the great latter-day prophet seems to have imbued him with a special concern for the descendants of the peoples of the Book of Mormon, generally known by the Church today as “Lamanites.””  Susan Easton Black and Charles D. Tate, Jr., eds., Joseph Smith: The Prophet, The Man [Provo:BYUReligiousStudiesCenter, 1993], 187.

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Creation

The book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price is the account of the creation.  Moses 2:1-31 is much like the account of the creation as told in the Bible.  Now if we skip over to Abraham chapters 4 and 5 in the Pearl of Great Price we see an entirely different story of the creation.  Here it tells the Mormon that the ‘Gods’ created the earth and then created man.  This is just one example of how the Mormons became confused.

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Does God Change?

Today we’re looking at another contradiction in Mormonism. This contradiction is between Moroni 8:18, Doctrine and Covenants 20:17, and Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young (Chapter 4, page 29). These read as follows:

Moroni 8:18; “For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity.”

Doctrine and Covenants 20:17; “By these things we know that there is a God in heaven, who is infinite and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God, the framer of heaven and earth, and all things which are in them.”

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Mormon Belief

Newsweek, “What Mormons Believe,” September 1, 1980, p. 68; Mormon doctrine means that ultimately we are not dependent upon God for our existence. And since we can make ourselves as godly as the Father, we don’t feel any jealousy toward him.” – BYU Professor James E. Ford

2 Tim. 2:16; But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

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Denying the Lord Jesus

While answering e-mails today I came across a passage of Mormon scripture in D&C 138:58-59 which says;

The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God,  59 And after they have paid the penalty of their transgressions, and are washed clean, shall receive a reward according to their works, for they are heirs of salvation.

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Contradictions in the Doctrine and Covenants

Today we’re wondering why the prophecy declared by Joseph Smith contradicts what has taken place in the Mormon Church.  As you’ll see from the text, God told Joseph that whoever performs or declares more than repentance and coming to Christ is not in obedience.

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April 15 – Heb. 13:8-9; “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Be not carried away by strange doctrines.  For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.”

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Mormon Clothing and Worship

I can clearly remember the Sunday Morning I walked into the Christian Church that would become my church family for the next two years of my life. It was the middle of February, my family and I had officially left the Mormon religion and we were looking for a new church to call home. As we walked into the sanctuary we could hear the happy chatter of people talking and visiting with one another which was quite a shock to me.

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March 15 – Is. 40:8; “The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever”.

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Word study time!  Eternal and forever are the key words for today.  Look them up in a dictionary, concordance and lexicon and then share your new found knowledge with the Mormon.  Be sure to use some of your favorite verses from the Bible that contain these words.  Don’t forget to explain why the verses you share are your favorites.  What did God reveal to you through these things?

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2 Nephi 9:16; “And assuredly, as the Lord liveth, for the Lord God hath spoken it, and it is his eternal word which cannot pass away”.

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March 14 – Ex. 3:14, John 8:58; “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM”.  “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am”.

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What an amazing set of scriptures to give to a Mormon!  Ask them why they think the Pharisees were so angry with Jesus after reading these two verses to them.  Then share their own scriptures with them and ask them what it means.

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Introductory page of the Book of Mormon, 2nd paragraph:  “JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE ETERNAL GOD”.

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March 13 – Gen. 3:24; “So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim’s, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life”. 

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Next to John 3:16, the Genesis scripture should be at the forefront of every believer’s mind.  Man was separated from God, thus the need for John 3:16.  It was not God’s intention for this to happen.  He knew it would happen, but it doesn’t mean that He willed it to happen.  The Mormon believes man had to sin in order to know joy, sadness and to even procreate.  They believe this sin commandment came from God.

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“In conformity to the will of the Lord, Adam fell both spiritually and temporally.”  Mormon Doctrine, pg. 268.

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March 12 – John 16:17; “Even the Spirit of Truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you”.

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Please show the Mormon the truth about the Holy Spirit.  He actually dwells inside of the believer!

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“Now what is this other Comforter?  It is no more nor less than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself…that when any man obtains this last Comforter, he will have the personage of Jesus Christ to attend him, or appear unto him from time to time…”  Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 151.

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February 27 – “Neither is salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”  Acts 4:12

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AMEN!  We must ask the Mormon what the phrase “none other name” means to them.

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“Some have said that I was very presumptuous to say that Brother Brigham was my God and Saviour, Brother Joseph was his God and the one that gave Joseph the keys of the kingdom was his God which was Peter.  Jesus Christ was his God and (the) Father of Jesus Christ was Adam.”  Journal of Wilford Woodruff, April 10, 1852.

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February 26 – “Neither give heed to fables or endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”  1 Tim. 1:4.

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Ask the Mormon if Joseph Smith had absolute proof that he truly was related to Jesus Christ then what good does it do him?  What purpose does it serve to even mention something like this?  Would it mean that he had a ticket to heaven because of it?

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D&C 113:5-6; “What is the root of Jesse spoken of in the 10th verse of the 11th chapter (Isaiah).  Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days”.

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February 24 – “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”.  Romans 3:23.

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Not one Mormon believes that children can sin.  They baptize at the age of eight to be cleansed from their sins because this is when they believe you become accountable for your actions.  Have a Mormon try to explain away a two-year-old child’s behavior.  Also ask them why they’d have to be baptized for a remission of sins if they were perfect up until they got baptized.

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D&C 29:47-8; “Wherefore, they cannot sin, for power is not given unto Satan to tempt little children, until they begin to become accountable before me; For it is given unto them even as I will, according to mine own pleasure, that great things may be required at the hands of their fathers”.

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February 21 – God warns us about false prophets in Deut. 13:6-9; “If thy brother, the son of they mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou has no known, thou, nor thy father; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him…”

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It seems clear how serious God was in regards to false prophets.  He wanted none of them to survive, and He certainly didn’t want us to pity them.  We are told not to listen at all to them.

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Joseph Smith seemed to believe that he could slip out of his self-proclaimed prophet-hood anytime he chose to do so.  Is this reasonable considering all we’ve learned just this year?  He is quoted in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith as follows; “…I told them that a prophet was a prophet only when he was acting as such”.  History of the Church 5:265

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February 19 – The word or name Adam is translated in the Hebrew as meaning the first man, or ruddy, from the ground.  Gen. 2:19.

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Joseph Smith taught that man’s spirit was sexually begotten by God before he came to earth.  He also taught that Adam was actually Michael the angel, and Noah was Gabriel.

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D&C 107:54; “And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel.”

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Islam vs Mormonism

 by Kirk Grim

                The Islamic faith is centered on the belief in one God and in Arabic he is called Allah. The Muslims, followers of Islam, believe that Muhammad was visited by an angel of light from whom he received God’s final revelation. Muhammad claimed that this angel of light was Gabriel, the same Gabriel as the one from the Old Testament of the Bible. It was several years before these visions were recorded in what is called the Quran, the sacred scripture of Islam.

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MORMON TERMINOLOGY

 One of the most commonly asked questions I’ve received over the years is the request for help in witnessing to a Mormon friend or relative.  The first thing the born-again Christian has to understand is that they are speaking a different Christian language than the Mormon.  The words that we’re comfortable with knowing from the Bible are totally different from what the Mormon understands them to be.

 When I got out of the Mormon Church and asked Jesus to be my only Savior the subject of the unique Mormon vocabulary began a life-long study for me.  It took me roughly five years to root out all of the incorrect English words from the depths of my soul and this was done through the patience of my close friends gently correcting me, listening to and answering thousands of questions from me and of course the Lord’s promptings for me to dig deeper!

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Studying the Book of Mormon 10

 http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/NE/miscne01.htm

 Boston Courier.
Vol. VI.                           Boston, Ma., Thursday, March 17, 1831.                           No. 545.

 DELUSION. There is no end to trickery and imposture in our land. “Fools are the game which knaves pursue,” and until the people in some sections of the country become more enlightened, there will be plenty of game.

 The newspaper headline above provides insight to what most people thought of Joseph Smith and his shenanigans.  This edition of the Boston Courier was fascinating.  We are able to see how the early Mormon Church was able to grow and to what extent the surrounding townsfolk tolerated this movement.  Most didn’t put up with it, while others were able to be tricked into their schemes.  At one point a Methodist church had Rigdon and a few others come in and actually preach at the pulpit – the entire congregation left God and signed up to become Mormon.

 Mormon 9:32-33; “And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.  33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.

 The passage above is a good example of how the Church makes excuses for the way they believe.  Does it make sense they’ve altered the Hebrew or Reformed Egyptian?  His explanation reminds me of what the con artist tries to pull off at carnivals.  He puts the prize under the shell and mixes them around; if you find it, you win.

 Tragically, the unfound prize in this game is the salvation in Jesus that Mormons are so desperately seeking.  The Mormon god keeps changing the rules; the people writing the story changed the language and the members won’t change their minds about whom they hold allegiance to.

 The entire Book of Mormon (not just this particular book) is difficult to follow or assign a central theme to because of the miserable way it’s been written.   The writing of Moroni in the Book of Mormon is no exception to this finding.  They purposely introduce off topic items in order to confuse.  Because of this, I’ve chosen to list several items of interest that actually hurts the storyline instead of adding to the message it was originally intended to convey.  If it’s to be a cohesive piece of work why is there so much garbage in its text?

 I’ve not written my analysis this way to confuse, but to spark an objective thinking process about Joseph Smith and his claim about the characters in this book.

 If you’re LDS, know that we pray for you each and every day.  We so want for you to know the Jesus in the Bible and dedicate your passion to Him who holds the truth.

 With Love in Christ;

Michelle Grim

1 Cor. 1:18

 There are 227 verses in the Book of Mormon

Verses with the phrase “And it Came to Pass”: 61x in 57 verses

 Mormon 1:6; “And it came to pass that I, being eleven years old…

 1:6, 8, 10, 11 (2x), 12, 19 – 7x, 6 verses

2:1, 2, 3, 4 (2x), 7, 9, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20 (2x), 21, 22, 23, 25, 26 – 18x, 16 verses

3:1, 2, 4, 5, 7 (2x), 11, 16 – 8x, 7 verses

4:1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 10, 13, 15, 19, 22 – 10 verses

5:1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 20 – 7 verses

6:1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15 – 9 verses

8:2 – 1 verse

 Verses describing years that have passed:  18

 2:3, 9, 16, 22, 28

3:1, 4, 7, 8

4:1, 7, 10, 15, 16

5:5, 6

6:5

8:6

 Verses with False Prophecies:  9

 1:17

5:8

7: intro

8:1, 32

9:6, 9, 32, 33

 Verses with grammar problems:  4

 4:21

6:10, 11, 16

Verses with No Contentions/Peace:  2

 1:12

4:16

Verses with Wars:  11

 1:8, 13

2:1, 15

4:10, 18

5:6

6:2, 15

8:2, 8

Verses with partial sentences/phrases from the Bible30

 2:14

3:2, 15 (2x), 20, 22

5:14, 16, 18

6:21 (2x)

7:5 (2x), 7, 8 (2x), 9, 10

8:17, 20, 29, 30, 31

9:2, 7, 9 (2x), 13 (2x), 14, 22, 23, 24 (2x), 27, 28 (2x), 29 (2x)

 Main Events in Mormon

 1:7; “The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous almost, as it were the sand of the sea.

 30,000+ Nephites gathered to fight – Mormon 1:11

Hidden treasures become slippery – Mormon 1:18

Why did Jesus die if the “Day of grace is gone”? – Mormon 2:15, 26

Bodies piled up like dung on earth – 2:15

Lamanites sent epistle to warn of battle – Mormon 3:4

Mormon refuses to lead in battle – Mormon 3:11

Strange – “…Without calling upon that Being who created them…” – Mormon 5:2

Invitation to fight at Cumorah – Mormon 6:2

100,000 die in battles – Mormon 6:14

110,000 die in battles – Mormon 6:15

Trinity teaching – Mormon 7:7

If you’ll believe this story, you’ll believe the Bible – Mormon 7:9

Scriptures not inspired; Moroni commanded by his father to write scripture – Mormon 8:1

Scriptures not inspired; Moroni would write but he’s run out of materials – Mormon 8:5

Those 3 disciples disappear – 8:10

Pardon all the mistakes in the sacred cannon – Mormon 8:12

Person who discovers the hidden books is blessed, yeah, that means Joe Smith – Mormon 8:14-16

If you doubt the book you are damned – Mormon 8:17-20

Saints could remove mountains – Mormon 8:24

Modern day Mormon theology – Mormon 8:32

 “…happy to dwell with that holy Being…” – Mormon 9:3

The righteous are pure, fair and white – Mormon 9:6

God doesn’t change – Mormon 9:9, 10, 19

Jesus doesn’t do miracles anymore because everyone stopped believing – Mormon 9:20

Explanation of reformed Egyptian – Mormon 9:32-33

 Events Worth Questioning

 1:7; “The whole face of the land had become covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous almost, as it were the sand of the sea.

 Think about the above scenario for a moment.  The entire face of the land was covered with buildings – and they still haven’t found even one piece of archaeological evidence…

 If there were almost as many people on the face of the land as there were grains of sand, how did they all fit?  As a side note, there are approximately 10,000 grains of medium-coarse sand per cubic inch…

God wouldn’t let Mormon preach

 When has God ever told people not to speak about Him?

 Mormon 1:17; “But I did remain among them, but I was forbidden to preach unto them, because of the hardness of their hearts…

 Fighting for Democracy and Liberty

 Modern democracy like America knows it didn’t come about until the Declaration of Independence in 1776.  While forms of living in a “free world” made half hearted attempts and brief appearances as early as the Greco-Roman Empire and again in 1215 with the advent of the Magna Carta, this thought process and governmental system wasn’t in existence until centuries after the Book of Mormon was supposed to have taken place.

 Mormon 2:23; “And it came to pass that I did speak unto my people, and did urge them with great energy, that they would stand boldly before the Lamanites and fight for their wives, and their children, and their houses, and their homes.

 If you believe in God why are you without hope?

 Mormon 5:2; “But behold, I was without hope, for I knew the judgments of the Lord which should come upon them; for they repented not of their iniquities, but did struggle for their lives without calling upon that Being who created them.

 Were the Nephites evil?

 Mormon 6:7; “And it came to pass that my people, with their wives and their children, did now behold the armies of the Lamanites marching towards them; and with that awful fear of death which fills the breasts of all the wicked, did they await to receive them.

 If you believe in God, why are you using the terminology of witches?

 Mormon 6:15; “…and blood lay upon the face of the earth, being left by the hands of those who slew them to molder upon the land, and to crumble and to return to their mother earth.

 Why is the destruction of the Nephites “great and marvelous”?

 Mormon 8:7; “And behold, the Lamanites have hunted my people, the Nephites, down from city to city and from place to place, even until they are no more; and great has been their fall; yea, great and marvelous is the destruction of my people, the Nephites.

 Modern day Mormon theology

 In order to receive a full and true salvation members of the LDS Church must subject themselves to a bishop’s interview.  It is there the bishop will ask the member if their spiritual lives are in order and that means paying a full 10% tithe of your gross income.  You turn in your W-2 and if you don’t comply, you don’t receive the coveted Mormon temple recommend.  The end of each year brings with it a “tithing settlement” you make with the ward (congregation) you belong to.

 Mormon 8:32; “Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins.

 Incorrect teaching in Mormon

 The Mormon teaching below is disingenuous.  Yes, we can be resurrected because Jesus was resurrected after His death.  However, Jesus’ death brought about forgiveness of our sins, alas, that is something the Mormons don’t like to talk about.

 Romans 4:25; “Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

 Mormon 9:13; “…because the death of Christ bringeth to pass the resurrection…

 Not enough room to tell whole story because they’ve changed the languages

 I’ve often wondered why they didn’t just write in Hebrew to begin with.  Where did this “Reformed Egyptian” stuff come from anyway?  Who told them to write in this manner?  Who taught the Nephites this language if they didn’t go into Egypt in their exodus from Jerusalem?  Why did the author(s) waste so much space on their plates with nonsensical information like the examples above?  (Number of years passed, bad grammar, “and it came to pass” phrases used repetitively, plagiarisms from the Bible, et al.)

 Mormon 9:32-33; “And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.  33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.

 No one but Smith knows Reformed Egyptian

 How convenient…

 Mormon 9:34; “But the Lord knoweth the things which we have written, and also that none other people knoweth our language; and because that none other people knoweth our language, therefore he hath prepared means for the interpretation thereof.

 How do you rid your clothes of the blood of unbelievers?

 Mormon 9:35; “And these things are written that we may rid our garments of the blood of our brethren, who have dwindled in unbelief.

 And finally – if there were so many Nephites in this army of 42,000 and 30,000, etc., what in the world happened to all of them?  Where are they, how did they die, where are their families….where is the archaeological evidence of these people?

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